we literally may be the worst in the nfl by position.....
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To say that "the coaches know it's a throw away year" tells me that Debbie hasn't played an organized sport past T-ball, much less coached a sport at any level. Our coaches are busting their asses with long days, and they're agonizing over every cut they have to make. They feed and shelter their families being a coach in a win now business, and they all know they'll all be gone if they don't win.......... and yet you think they're all just sitting around talking about 2-3 years from now?? Fucking ridiculous.
I've read some pretty stupid things on this forum - quite a few from Debbie herself - but this one takes the cake. There isn't a member of the Browns organization that isn't giving their all to win, and to win now.
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You make the statement that we may be the worst at these various skill positions.......now back it up.
Give your ranking of all 32 teams at the Skill positions....
Who has the best QB corps?
Who has the best WR corps?
Who has the best TE corps?
Who has the best RB corps?
If not this, but if you think the Browns are so low on the end of these rankings.....who do you think they are in competition with for the title of "The worst" of all these.
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QB - Packers Aaron Rodgers nuff said
RB - Vikings Peterson is the best back and McKinnon is an intriguing guy, Asiata is servicable
WR - Gotta go with the Giants if were looking at depth. ODB, Cruz, Randle and James Jones. If were just looking at top 2, Id take the Lions with Calvin and Golden.
TE - Patriots. Gronk is the best TE to ever play, and they have decent depth with Chandler and Hoomanawanuwi
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QB - Packers Aaron Rodgers nuff said
RB - Vikings Peterson is the best back and McKinnon is an intriguing guy, Asiata is servicable
WR - Gotta go with the Giants if were looking at depth. ODB, Cruz, Randle and James Jones. If were just looking at top 2, Id take the Lions with Calvin and Golden.
TE - Patriots. Gronk is the best TE to ever play, and they have decent depth with Chandler and Hoomanawanuwi
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
QB - Packers Aaron Rodgers nuff said
RB - Vikings Peterson is the best back and McKinnon is an intriguing guy, Asiata is servicable
WR - Gotta go with the Giants if were looking at depth. ODB, Cruz, Randle and James Jones. If were just looking at top 2, Id take the Lions with Calvin and Golden.
TE - Patriots. Gronk is the best TE to ever play, and they have decent depth with Chandler and Hoomanawanuwi
I might have a word with you about that.
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Can we change this guy's name to fish taco?
Can we change this guy's name to fish taco?
Preferably something without the word Taco in it for my sake.
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QB - Packers Aaron Rodgers nuff said
RB - Vikings Peterson is the best back and McKinnon is an intriguing guy, Asiata is servicable
WR - Gotta go with the Giants if were looking at depth. ODB, Cruz, Randle and James Jones. If were just looking at top 2, Id take the Lions with Calvin and Golden.
TE - Patriots. Gronk is the best TE to ever play, and they have decent depth with Chandler and Hoomanawanuwi
XxDaBuckeyexX said:
QB - Packers Aaron Rodgers nuff said
RB - Vikings Peterson is the best back and McKinnon is an intriguing guy, Asiata is servicable
WR - Gotta go with the Giants if were looking at depth. ODB, Cruz, Randle and James Jones. If were just looking at top 2, Id take the Lions with Calvin and Golden.
TE - Patriots. Gronk is the best TE to ever play, and they have decent depth with Chandler and Hoomanawanuwi
yeah, no.
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Grok the best TE of all time? ...I'm gonna need to be convinced of that
This shit ain't nothing to me, man. -
You make the statement that we may be the worst at these various skill positions.......now back it up.
Give your ranking of all 32 teams at the Skill positions....
Who has the best QB corps?
Who has the best WR corps?
Who has the best TE corps?
Who has the best RB corps?
If not this, but if you think the Browns are so low on the end of these rankings.....who do you think they are in competition with for the title of "The worst" of all these.
You make the statement that we may be the worst at these various skill positions.......now back it up.
Give your ranking of all 32 teams at the Skill positions....
Who has the best QB corps?
Who has the best WR corps?
Who has the best TE corps?
Who has the best RB corps?
If not this, but if you think the Browns are so low on the end of these rankings.....who do you think they are in competition with for the title of "The worst" of all these.
I can give you who's worse off than us...
QB's - Jets (Fitzpatrick), Bills (Taylor), Texans (Hoyer), Rams (Foles), Buccaneers (Winston), Titans (Mariota), Redskins (Cousins)
RB's - Jets (Powell/Ivory), Atlanta (Freeman/Coleman), Panthers (Stewart/Whittaker), Cowboys (McFadden/Randle)
WR's - Panthers (Brown/Ginn), Jaguars (Hurns/Robinson), Chiefs (Maclin/Wilson)
TE's - Cardinals (Fells/Momah), Saints (Watson/Hill)
I'm sure there are more groups that we are at least "competetive" with, but these are the groups that I think we are obviously better than...
I'd also add that our offensive line is top 5, which helps. Plus, it's hard to rank our skill players because this is a new system and there are so many new pieces...
Not to mention, our D will be top 5 this year as well... with the #1 ranked secondary... so that will help...
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I wouldn't include Foles in that group. I would take him for the Browns right now.
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yes. there are many that do the woulda shoulda coulda here for draft reasoning but i'll do it for trades and acquisitions.
foles would have been great but my big piss and moan is not looking at alex smith when he was available. just think he is a classic prototypical QB that could've been here for 10 years.
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Smith and Maclin looked great this pre-season... so I would not put Maclin as worse than us.
Also agree on Foles not belonging on worse than us QB list. And to my surprise, I'm not sure Mariotta belongs on that list either. His transition to under center has been remarkable.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Smith and Maclin looked great this pre-season... so I would not put Maclin as worse than us.
Also agree on Foles not belonging on worse than us QB list. And to my surprise, I'm not sure Mariotta belongs on that list either. His transition to under center has been remarkable.
Smith and Maclin looked great this pre-season... so I would not put Maclin as worse than us.
Also agree on Foles not belonging on worse than us QB list. And to my surprise, I'm not sure Mariotta belongs on that list either. His transition to under center has been remarkable.
yessir. eye test right now has mariotta over winston as the better of the 2. a lot here IMO were right about him looking and being the part so far. hope the kid rips it up.
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You won't get agreement in here but taken as a whole and subtracting the offensive line from the equation the Browns are in the discussion of the worst offenses in football hence the preseason predictions from basically everyone outside of Cleveland for a 6-10 type season. Defense should be solid.
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Grok the best TE of all time? ...I'm gonna need to be convinced of that
Hes still only 26, and owns the record for TE TDs in a season, and is 5th for any position. Hes the only TE to ever have 4 consecutive double digit TD seasons. Hes a complete player because hes a helluva blocker also. I doubt he'll have the longevity of a Gonzalez or Shannon Sharpe though.Grok the best TE of all time? ...I'm gonna need to be convinced of that
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Hes still only 26, and owns the record for TE TDs in a season, and is 5th for any position. Hes the only TE to ever have 4 consecutive double digit TD seasons. Hes a complete player because hes a helluva blocker also. I doubt he'll have the longevity of a Gonzalez or Shannon Sharpe though.Grok the best TE of all time? ...I'm gonna need to be convinced of that
For such a freak athlete he is injury prone. Just goes to show that injuries are part of the sport, and no one is immune, even if they're 6 foot tall and white.XxDaBuckeyexX said:
Hes still only 26, and owns the record for TE TDs in a season, and is 5th for any position. Hes the only TE to ever have 4 consecutive double digit TD seasons. Hes a complete player because hes a helluva blocker also. I doubt he'll have the longevity of a Gonzalez or Shannon Sharpe though.
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For such a freak athlete he is injury prone. Just goes to show that injuries are part of the sport, and no one is immune, even if they're 6 foot tall and white.XxDaBuckeyexX said:
Hes still only 26, and owns the record for TE TDs in a season, and is 5th for any position. Hes the only TE to ever have 4 consecutive double digit TD seasons. Hes a complete player because hes a helluva blocker also. I doubt he'll have the longevity of a Gonzalez or Shannon Sharpe though.
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