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  • P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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    I don't see 8-4 for michigan. I think 6-6 is realistic

  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    I am pretty sure we'll do better than 6-6. That's basically our floor.

  • I am pretty sure we'll do better than 6-6. That's basically our floor.

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    I am pretty sure we'll do better than 6-6. That's basically our floor.

    5-7
  • I am pretty sure we'll do better than 6-6. That's basically our floor.

    Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    I am pretty sure we'll do better than 6-6. That's basically our floor.

    5-7

    Right now, your floor is technically 0-12.

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by wargograw
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    I just talked to a Michigan transplant here at work. She thinks they go 7-5 this year, Harbaugh gets his recruits (no timetable on that), then they're "unstoppable."

  • The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by The Cysko Kid
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    I think harbaugh is a good coach but overrated. I think his appeal is overrated, his coaching ability is overrated and his supposed winning reputation is overrated. I know woody will become apoplectic with rage over that but I'm not saying that only because he's at Michigan now. I would have told you that about him in San Francisco too. At stanford he was under my radar, but is it possible Andrew luck had a lot to do with his success there? I think it is.

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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    It's not always a guarantee that coaches who have won at smaller programs can win at bigger ones. Bigger programs involve a lot of ego management. It's not easy.

  • I think harbaugh is a good coach but overrated. I think his appeal is overrated, his coaching ability is overrated and his supposed winning reputation is overrated. I know woody will become apoplectic with rage over that but I'm not saying that only because he's at Michigan now. I would have told you that about him in San Francisco too. At stanford he was under my radar, but is it possible Andrew luck had a lot to do with his success there? I think it is.

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    @the-cysko-kid said:

    I think harbaugh is a good coach but overrated. I think his appeal is overrated, his coaching ability is overrated and his supposed winning reputation is overrated. I know woody will become apoplectic with rage over that but I'm not saying that only because he's at Michigan now. I would have told you that about him in San Francisco too. At stanford he was under my radar, but is it possible Andrew luck had a lot to do with his success there? I think it is.

    So with his entire body of work, you think he is overrated. And the only reasoning you have is Andrew Luck.

    Insightful

  • It's not always a guarantee that coaches who have won at smaller programs can win at bigger ones. Bigger programs involve a lot of ego management. It's not easy.

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    @wargograw said:

    It's not always a guarantee that coaches who have won at smaller programs can win at bigger ones. Bigger programs involve a lot of ego management. It's not easy.

    Which would be appropriate here if this were the first jump he was making...

  • I just talked to a Michigan transplant here at work. She thinks they go 7-5 this year, Harbaugh gets his recruits (no timetable on that), then they're "unstoppable."

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    @wargograw said:

    I just talked to a Michigan transplant here at work. She thinks they go 7-5 this year, Harbaugh gets his recruits (no timetable on that), then they're "unstoppable."

    The line in Vegas has been 7.5 wins, so she's definitely within reason there. "unstoppable" is way to string of a word. Give it 3 or 4 years until they're in the national title conversation. But I'd never say unstoppable...

  • @wargograw said:

    I just talked to a Michigan transplant here at work. She thinks they go 7-5 this year, Harbaugh gets his recruits (no timetable on that), then they're "unstoppable."

    The line in Vegas has been 7.5 wins, so she's definitely within reason there. "unstoppable" is way to string of a word. Give it 3 or 4 years until they're in the national title conversation. But I'd never say unstoppable...

    Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    The line in Vegas has been 7.5 wins, so she's definitely within reason there. "unstoppable" is way to string of a word. Give it 3 or 4 years until they're in the national title conversation. But I'd never say unstoppable...

    In 3 or 4 years, Harbaugh will be gone. That's his track record

  • @mld-woody said:

    The line in Vegas has been 7.5 wins, so she's definitely within reason there. "unstoppable" is way to string of a word. Give it 3 or 4 years until they're in the national title conversation. But I'd never say unstoppable...

    In 3 or 4 years, Harbaugh will be gone. That's his track record

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    @browns149 said:

    In 3 or 4 years, Harbaugh will be gone. That's his track record

    Because he's moved up each time... and now he is where he wants to be.

  • @browns149 said:

    In 3 or 4 years, Harbaugh will be gone. That's his track record

    Because he's moved up each time... and now he is where he wants to be.

    The Cysko KidT The Cysko Kid wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    Because he's moved up each time... and now he is where he wants to be.

    If you believe him he wanted to be in San Francisco but was forced out

  • AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by
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  • @wargograw said:

    It's not always a guarantee that coaches who have won at smaller programs can win at bigger ones. Bigger programs involve a lot of ego management. It's not easy.

    Which would be appropriate here if this were the first jump he was making...

    W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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    @mld-woody said:

    Which would be appropriate here if this were the first jump he was making...

    Going from SDSU to Stanford still leaves you woefully short of knowing how to manage the egos of a big time program. Hey, he'll probably do fine, I just don't like when people assume a guy will dominate the CFB big leagues just because he dominated the small ones.

  • ComeonmanC Comeonman wrote on last edited by
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    It's a rivalry Woody. Don't expect anything other than this.

  • @mld-woody said:

    Because he's moved up each time... and now he is where he wants to be.

    If you believe him he wanted to be in San Francisco but was forced out

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    @the-cysko-kid said:

    If you believe him he wanted to be in San Francisco but was forced out

    and how has that been going for San Francisco?

    If he wanted to be in the NFL, he'd still be in the NFL.

  • @mld-woody said:

    Which would be appropriate here if this were the first jump he was making...

    Going from SDSU to Stanford still leaves you woefully short of knowing how to manage the egos of a big time program. Hey, he'll probably do fine, I just don't like when people assume a guy will dominate the CFB big leagues just because he dominated the small ones.

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    @wargograw said:

    Going from SDSU to Stanford still leaves you woefully short of knowing how to manage the egos of a big time program. Hey, he'll probably do fine, I just don't like when people assume a guy will dominate the CFB big leagues just because he dominated the small ones.

    He had no egos to manage on an NFL team?

    Who has said he will dominate?

    Was Stanford in a "small league"? They play in the same FBS as everyone else, correct? Or are you calling the PAC 12 small?

    You said there's no guarantee he'll win because he's only won at a "small program". That completely ignores each program he's turned around, it makes Stanford sound like a MAC team, and it ignores his entire NFL stint...

  • It's a rivalry Woody. Don't expect anything other than this.

    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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    @comeonman said:

    It's a rivalry Woody. Don't expect anything other than this.

    No, of course. I am fine with the shit talking and what not. I just would like common sense, based in reality, or factual responses from the other side. Responding with inaccurate statements and straw man gets really old, really fast. It is amazing how much some people can lose any ability to reason and use common sense when it involves OSU and Michigan. I see it here a lot though. It is probably a byproduct of all of the success OSU has had recently. A delusional, arrogant, fanbase. I'd probably be saying the same thing about Bama fans.