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  • @comeonman said:

    Certainly Cooper isn't their #1. But then again I'm not too familiar with da Raidas

    Pretty sure he is their #1.

    @gftchris said:

    Pretty sure (Cooper) is their #1.

    Crabtree actually has more targets after 2 games, 24 vs. 20. OAK looks to be a developing 1a and 1b situation. Both are 6'1 210-ish sized WRs... which surprised me as I think of Crabtree as taller and lankier for some reason. That said, Cooper sure looks like the tougher assignment to my eye... much tighter, crisper routes and fakes.

    Biggest deal Sunday that I see is keeping a Raider running game, which has not yet gotten on track this season, from getting going. Latavius Murray, their "surprise find" from a year ago has only 109 thru 2 games. But his average is a respectable 4.2, so it may simply be game situations that have limited him. He has caught 10 balls. He did not play against us last year.

  • @gftchris said:

    Pretty sure (Cooper) is their #1.

    Crabtree actually has more targets after 2 games, 24 vs. 20. OAK looks to be a developing 1a and 1b situation. Both are 6'1 210-ish sized WRs... which surprised me as I think of Crabtree as taller and lankier for some reason. That said, Cooper sure looks like the tougher assignment to my eye... much tighter, crisper routes and fakes.

    Biggest deal Sunday that I see is keeping a Raider running game, which has not yet gotten on track this season, from getting going. Latavius Murray, their "surprise find" from a year ago has only 109 thru 2 games. But his average is a respectable 4.2, so it may simply be game situations that have limited him. He has caught 10 balls. He did not play against us last year.

    @tour2ma said:

    Crabtree actually has more targets after 2 games, 24 vs. 20. OAK looks to be a developing 1a and 1b situation. Both are 6'1 210-ish sized WRs... which surprised me as I think of Crabtree as taller and lankier for some reason. That said, Cooper sure looks like the tougher assignment to my eye... much tighter, crisper routes and fakes.

    Biggest deal Sunday that I see is keeping a Raider running game, which has not yet gotten on track this season, from getting going. Latavius Murray, their "surprise find" from a year ago has only 109 thru 2 games. But his average is a respectable 4.2, so it may simply be game situations that have limited him. He has caught 10 balls. He did not play against us last year.

    Targets don't necessarily mean so much - when we have greg little as our #1, and massequoi as #2, but little is covered by revis and massequoi keeps getting open, he gets the targets.

    Just a trip down memory lane to remind everyone how far we've come.

  • All true, Chris...

    Will be interesting to see if we go away from trend of Haden on opponent's "best" and either:

    1. let Haden and Williams stay on a side of the field and cover whomever comes to them; or

    2. actually put Haden on Crabtree and T.Williams on Cooper.

    I actually like the latter with the grizzled. more physical vet on the rookie and the quicker Haden on Crabtree. Also should give Haden ball opportunities he would not see on the tighter moving rook... could jump start Joe's season.

  • I love our DB vs. WR matchup this week. I think Haden on Crabtree and WIlliams on Cooper will all-but shut down those guys. We need to get pressure on Carr AND be able to stop the run... I see very low scoring on the part of the Raiders...

    I like our O-line vs. the Raiders' D... I think the run game will be strong with a good mix of Crowell/Johnson again, and we'll infuse a bunch of quick-release routes and rely on our little guys for YAC...

    The Raiders are improved over last year, but so are we... I think we'll see a low scoring 20-13 Browns victory...

  • Crabtree is slow compared to Cooper. I like that combo suggestion with Haden on Crabtree. He would never get open. The key will be to get to Carr before he can get anything long downfield. And until we show we can see the screen, expect a lot of that.

  • True, Ag... Cooper 4.3-ish and Crab 4.5-ish. But I think Cooper is also more physical and that leans me more towards T.Williams getting him.

    But what do I know... I'm an O-line guy... 😉

    While he has the arm for it, I think Carr is still not a deep ball guy. Over half of his big, week-2 TD to Cooper was YAC.

    Can't find a distribution chart maybe one of our FPP folks can help.

    Agree with the prep for screens caution...

  • Browns 35 Raiders 20.

    A big sigh of relief when Josh McCown throws for 340 yards and 3TDs gets a couple of first downs with his legs and proves once and for all he can slide. Browns prove that have a efficient Starting QB and a competent Back up trying to learn his way towards 2016 starting battle with who ever...

  • Well from my day 2 day status I was down graded to a coaches decision for Sunday. Leaving Saturday to Virginia Beach to fish with father in law in the coaches home town. Good chance of bad weather so a good chance of a sports bar to watch the D Pound & The O Ground to another big W 27-10ish. Keep the stools in the upright position at all times in The Tavern and holler at ya Tuesday. Road Warriors-- Tilted Kilt in VB yet? Sports Bar in VB with NFL ticket besides Hooters, got any others?

  • I've only been in VA Beach once... picked up a mint pair of original Large Advent Loudspeakers for the collection. Ate at a great little bar/restaurant named Chicks Oyster Bar... had great Crabcake sammies... but only a couple TVs...

    When on the road just google "browns backers" and use their Backer Tracker...

    ta da...

    Tidewater Browns Backers

    401 North Witchduck Rd, Virginia Beach, VA, 23455, US

    Appears to be a place named AJ Gators... About 10 miles West of VA Beach...

    http://fans.clevelandbrowns.com/backer-tracker?zip=virginia%20beach&rad=40

  • Meanwhile back at the Raiders...

    Just finished watching their BLT game on replay...

    Defensively:

    • Their 4-3 looks fast, but small... excepting two interior starters. They generated little pressure.
    • Their LBs played us very tough last year.
    • Secondary, lead by Woodsen, had enough to give Flacco pause on a fair percentage of plays, but aside from Smith BLT doesn't have much in the way of threatening.

    Pretty easy to see a plan where we run early and often and wear them down.

    Offensively...

    • Carr's eye discipline seems pretty good. Saw more "looking off" than "staring down". Pretty calm in the pocket which they sometimes moved for him. Good PA fakes including a couple bootlegs... our backside guy(s) will need to be disciplined. Also cut loose a throw back across the field for a TD. Accuracy drops when on move, especially if movement is not by his choice.
    • The over/under for bubble screens/ quick throws to Cooper is 5.5... take the over. And when you go to tackle him wrap up. I saw him bouncing off BLT LBs' attempts to knock him down... great balance. A lot more fun to watch playing someone else than he will be Sunday.
    • Crabtree seemed to be the beneficiary of every blown BLT coverage... really only made one good play that I can recall. Still looks taller and leaner than Cooper to my eye...
    • Murray showed some flashes running the ball, but since I have him in a couple fantasy leagues, I would not worry much about him.
    • TBH, it's hard to know how good this group might be. BLT is not showing much on D right now.
  • Shocking stat.....Kmack has zero sacks and only 3 tackles.....

    this scares me.....

  • Shocking stat.....Kmack has zero sacks and only 3 tackles.....

    this scares me.....

    @mudfly said:

    Shocking stat.....Kmack has zero sacks and only 3 tackles.....

    this scares me.....

    Hurt? Of flash in the pan? Or did people just figure out how to deal with him?

  • Browns 35 Raiders 20.

    A big sigh of relief when Josh McCown throws for 340 yards and 3TDs gets a couple of first downs with his legs and proves once and for all he can slide. Browns prove that have a efficient Starting QB and a competent Back up trying to learn his way towards 2016 starting battle with who ever...

    @cdl15 said:

    Browns 35 Raiders 20.

    A big sigh of relief when Josh McCown throws for 340 yards and 3TDs gets a couple of first downs with his legs and proves once and for all he can slide. Browns prove that have a efficient Starting QB and a competent Back up trying to learn his way towards 2016 starting battle with who ever...

    I like your pick-mine would be in the same scoring ballpark. I was thinking around 34-24 Browns.

  • With McClown as QB: Raiders: 28 Browns: 3

  • Browns 35 Raiders 20.

    A big sigh of relief when Josh McCown throws for 340 yards and 3TDs gets a couple of first downs with his legs and proves once and for all he can slide. Browns prove that have a efficient Starting QB and a competent Back up trying to learn his way towards 2016 starting battle with who ever...

    @cdl15 said:

    Browns 35 Raiders 20.

    A big sigh of relief when Josh McCown throws for 340 yards and 3TDs gets a couple of first downs with his legs and proves once and for all he can slide. Browns prove that have a efficient Starting QB and a competent Back up trying to learn his way towards 2016 starting battle with who ever...

    Dream on fool

  • Weren't Mack's stats fairly pedestrian last year too? I know he dominated, just thought I remember it didn't show up in the form of stats.

  • With McClown as QB: Raiders: 28 Browns: 3

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    With McClown as QB: Raiders: 28 Browns: 3

    Odd how McCown was in the lead every single preseason game....1's on 1's.....then he handed off to the others.....and we lost 2 outta 3...

    So, he's our only QB this year, who hasn't been shut out ....or let another team even lead......or lost ....

  • With McClown as QB: Raiders: 28 Browns: 3

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    With McClown as QB: Raiders: 28 Browns: 3

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Dream on fool

    No comment... yet... just want to save these for prosperity... or at least late Sunday afternoon...

  • Shocking stat.....Kmack has zero sacks and only 3 tackles.....

    this scares me.....

    @mudfly said:

    Shocking stat.....Kmack has zero sacks and only 3 tackles.....

    this scares me.....

    Del Rio and Company are putting him in a 3-point most of the time. Last year I remember him standing up as an OLB in either a 4-3 or 3-4 look. OAK seems to be really strapped for DL... one of their backup DTs only weighs 278...

    Based on the OAK/BLT review and break down of our 1st half vs. TN, I expect us to be able to run on these guys. May even need to give Draughn touches just to give Crow and Duke a breather.

    I think that means McCown has a better chance of a sub-200-yd game than a 300+... that is unless our D doesn't show up... and I'm guess that it will.

    Shaping up to be a low-scoring, blow-out victory in my eyes... along the lines of 27-10.

    So clearly we are doomed...

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