Oh Boy Here We Go
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The article's fake, at least according to Andrew Hawkins.
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I hate to say this, but I think I'd start McCown again. Oh, I would have put JM in at halftime in the last game...
but one more game for Josh to show his vast experience at seeing defenses will make a difference.
But if he can't make those throws without ints because his hand is injured...
he is on a very short leash - as soon as he shows his play is hurting the offense.
I also think I would suck as a head coach. lol
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Nobody wants to win more than Pettine. I second guessed Pettine last season on Manziel and won't do it this year. When Hoyer was struggling I thought Manziel could not do any worse but the Cincy game proved me wrong.
If the story is true I think these players should be more focused on their own positions instead of coaching.
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Manziel should start regardless on how legit this is. McCown sucks. We know what we getting from him. And who the fuck is McCown to teach Manziel anything. Only thing I can see him learning from McCown is how to lose. What skills doesn't McCown have that Manziel needs. Don't worry I'll wait.
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Manziel should start because we need to know if he's the future or not and we need to know it before the 2016 draft.
"I said, 'I need someone who's going to want to get on the roller coaster with me knowing that it's not always going to be fun,'" -Paul DePodesta -
There is plenty of time for that. It's only the fourth game. If you start McCown,
and he does great, everybody's good.
If he doesn't, you justifiably put JM in, and McCown will have seen enough of
the defense to advise JM on the sidelines if need be.
It doesn't work the same the other way around....
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Manziel should start because we need to know if he's the future or not and we need to know it before the 2016 draft.
Manziel should start because we need to know if he's the future or not and we need to know it before the 2016 draft.
Damn it all to hell......... I'm starting to lean this way too. This Sunday's game is the tipping point for me. Win it, and we're 2-2 and everyone is talkin' playoffs (PLAYOFFS!!??) and Josh continues to start, but lose it and the ugliness is going to be epic and it's time to throw the kid in the deep end and see if he stinks or swims. (see what I did there)
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Manziel should start because we need to know if he's the future or not and we need to know it before the 2016 draft.
Damn it all to hell......... I'm starting to lean this way too. This Sunday's game is the tipping point for me. Win it, and we're 2-2 and everyone is talkin' playoffs (PLAYOFFS!!??) and Josh continues to start, but lose it and the ugliness is going to be epic and it's time to throw the kid in the deep end and see if he stinks or swims. (see what I did there)
Damn it all to hell......... I'm starting to lean this way too. This Sunday's game is the tipping point for me. Win it, and we're 2-2 and everyone is talkin' playoffs (PLAYOFFS!!??) and Josh continues to start, but lose it and the ugliness is going to be epic and it's time to throw the kid in the deep end and see if he stinks or swims. (see what I did there)
I'm leaning that way because:
- McCown isn't very good
- McCown has no chance to be a long-term starter for this team.
I understand you start the guy who is best for "winning now", but McCown just isn't that good. Manziel may not be that good either, but at least he's 14 years younger.
Frankly, I don't think I'm buying that McCown gives us the best chance to win. Mostly because he hasn't sold it yet, nor has he sold it in his 14-year or whatever career.
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Manziel should start because we need to know if he's the future or not and we need to know it before the 2016 draft.
Manziel should start because we need to know if he's the future or not and we need to know it before the 2016 draft.
Agreed. First round pick, he needs to play. Now if we had a solid mentor, I would say let him learn as there is plenty of evidence of 2nd stringers learning from great QB's and succeeding. But at this point in time, McCown isn't teaching manziel anything, other maybe how to watch film.
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To celebrate Farmers return after Chargers game I would play Austin Davis Whhheeee!! Have a clearer mind after watching the Oakland game at a marina called the Crappy Patty in VB. Davis had a great game in SD with Rams not long ago. Put the whole mess on the table for Farmers return and say later sub GM.
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Glad somebody else brought it up, but I'll say it again; the best QB on roster isn't Johnny nor McCown.
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Here is the key question for those wanting to throw Johnny in "the deep end" now.
Will you allow him to lose games this year the way the others in his class were allowed to last year as they started all season, or will you throw him under the bus if he isn't Manning or Brady from day one?
If he does start there will be mistakes, but there will also be "from another planet" plays that make you catch your breath. Both are guaranteed.
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Honestly, Johnny needs to sit until mid season this year. Then throw him into the deep end, then he will lose for the rest of the year and probably next season too, then he might be ready. AND they might be able to draft him some weapons.
Problem is, the average Browns fan will give him 3 games, then call for someone else. And want the Coach fired. AND they will draft another QB instead of a WR or TE. Rinse, Wash, Repeat.
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Here is the key question for those wanting to throw Johnny in "the deep end" now.
Will you allow him to lose games this year the way the others in his class were allowed to last year as they started all season, or will you throw him under the bus if he isn't Manning or Brady from day one?
If he does start there will be mistakes, but there will also be "from another planet" plays that make you catch your breath. Both are guaranteed.
Here is the key question for those wanting to throw Johnny in "the deep end" now.
Will you allow him to lose games this year the way the others in his class were allowed to last year as they started all season, or will you throw him under the bus if he isn't Manning or Brady from day one?
If he does start there will be mistakes, but there will also be "from another planet" plays that make you catch your breath. Both are guaranteed.
McCown's a nice guy and a good veteran presence to have. He'll never be good enough to be an above average starting QB in the NFL.
It's not like we traded for or signed a quality veteran who has had success in the NFL. He did OK in Chicago with one of the best receiving corps in the NFL and solid run game.
Hoyer was an unknown - which is why I think people were more patient with him (not to mention he won us some games).
Besides, we're not going to lose games because of our quarterback anyway. Nobody will be looking at Manziel's mistakes because they'll be looking at the 15 YDs rushing and 500 YDs our defense gives up.
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Here is the key question for those wanting to throw Johnny in "the deep end" now.
Will you allow him to lose games this year the way the others in his class were allowed to last year as they started all season, or will you throw him under the bus if he isn't Manning or Brady from day one?
If he does start there will be mistakes, but there will also be "from another planet" plays that make you catch your breath. Both are guaranteed.
Here is the key question for those wanting to throw Johnny in "the deep end" now.
Will you allow him to lose games this year ??..... or will you throw him under the bus from day one?
Oh, some will give him a chance....but I guarantee(100%) he'll still be under the bus....and dragged around.....if he doesnt play well and win....
Thats how it goes here....no exceptions....and, Im certain, especially with Mr. Polarocity......
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Glad somebody else brought it up, but I'll say it again; the best QB on roster isn't Johnny nor McCown.
Glad somebody else brought it up, but I'll say it again; the best QB on roster isn't Johnny nor McCown.
At this point, Austin Davis very well could be the best QB on the roster.
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Honestly, Johnny needs to sit until mid season this year. Then throw him into the deep end, then he will lose for the rest of the year and probably next season too, then he might be ready. AND they might be able to draft him some weapons.
Problem is, the average Browns fan will give him 3 games, then call for someone else. And want the Coach fired. AND they will draft another QB instead of a WR or TE. Rinse, Wash, Repeat.
Problem is, the average Browns fan will give him 3 games, then call for someone else. And want the Coach fired. AND they will draft another QB instead of a WR or TE. Rinse, Wash, Repeat.
Right their is the mouthful I have been waiting for all week^^ (rinse) The Defense first half took the fans right out of the game than (wash) moved on to Josh threw out the game. Than what's left? (repeat) All the coaches of course. (fans like none other) Yes sir's.
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