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  • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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    Per US News and World Reports Academic 2015 Rankings of all "National Universities" here is where each of the schools in the Power 5 football conferences (plus Notre Dame and BYU) rate. The number next to the name is their rank on that list (#s 1,2,3= Princeton, Harvard, Yale):

    4. Stanford

    8. Duke

    12. Northwestern

    15. Vanderbilt

    18. Notre Dame

    20. Cal-Berkely

    t23. UCLA

    t23. USC

    26. Virginia

    27. Wake Forest

    29. Michigan

    t30. Boston College

    t30. North Carolina

    36. Georgia Tech

    t41. Illinois

    t41. Wisconsin

    t47. Penn St.

    t47. Florida

    51. Miami, Fla.

    t52. Ohio St.

    t52. Texas

    t52. Washington

    t57. Connecticut

    t57. Maryland

    t61. Clemson

    t61. Syracuse

    t61. Purdue

    t61. Georgia

    t66. BYU

    t66. Pitt

    69. Minnesota

    t70. Texas A&M

    t70. Va. Tech

    t72. Rutgers

    t72. Baylor

    t75. Indiana

    t75. Michigan St.

    t82. TCU

    t82. Iowa

    t89. NC St.

    t89. Colorado

    t96. Florida St.

    t96. Alabama

    102. Auburn

    t103. Missouri

    t103. Nebraska

    t103 Oregon

    t103. Tennessee

    t108. Iowa St.

    t108. Oklahoma

    t108. South Carolina

    t115. Kansas

    t115. Utah

    121. Arizona

    t129. Arizona St.

    t129. Arkansas

    t129. Kentucky

    135. Oregon St.

    t140. Ole Miss

    t140. Washington St.

    t140. Kansas St.

    149. Oklahoma St.

    161. Mississippi St.

    t168. Texas Tech

    t168. Louisville

    175. West Virginia

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    • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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      Just a note: Of the Top 10, 4 are Pac12, 3 or 4 are ACC (if you count ND as ACC). 1 is Big Ten. 1 is ACC. None for Big 12

      Of the bottom ten plus ties you have: 3 Pac12, 4 SEC, 4 Big 12, 1 ACC, none for Big Ten.

      It is all or nothing for Pac 12. 4 in Top 10, 3 in bottom 10. (and if we did bottom dozen...it would be 5 in bottom 12).

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        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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        And WVU bringing up the rear.

        And to be fair, the US News ratings are pretty damn flawed. Not that any ranking is perfect though. These rankings are just manipulated by some schools.

        Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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          These are pretty new.

          https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2016/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25

          I'm sure something is sketchy here too

          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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          • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

            And WVU bringing up the rear.

            And to be fair, the US News ratings are pretty damn flawed. Not that any ranking is perfect though. These rankings are just manipulated by some schools.

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            The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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            @mld-woody said:

            And WVU bringing up the rear.

            And to be fair, the US News ratings are pretty damn flawed. Not that any ranking is perfect though. These rankings are just manipulated by some schools.

            To be sure, you are correct about college rankings. It is by no means an exact science.

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            • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

              These are pretty new.

              https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2016/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25

              I'm sure something is sketchy here too

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              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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              @mld-woody said:

              These are pretty new.

              https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2016/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25

              I'm sure something is sketchy here too

              Certainly could be. Where US News has Stanford #4 in the US....this has them #3 in the world. And I think it must be a British publication....as it seems that there are a lot of English schools given much higher rankings than most other polls of this sort have given them. Cambridge, Oxford, sure.

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                @mld-woody said:

                These are pretty new.

                https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/2016/world-ranking#!/page/0/length/25

                I'm sure something is sketchy here too

                Certainly could be. Where US News has Stanford #4 in the US....this has them #3 in the world. And I think it must be a British publication....as it seems that there are a lot of English schools given much higher rankings than most other polls of this sort have given them. Cambridge, Oxford, sure.

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                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by MLD Woody
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                @the-gipper said:

                Certainly could be. Where US News has Stanford #4 in the US....this has them #3 in the world. And I think it must be a British publication....as it seems that there are a lot of English schools given much higher rankings than most other polls of this sort have given them. Cambridge, Oxford, sure.

                The very top British schools are always highly ranked. I believe this ranking has ND and Dartmouth around 105 too, which doesn't seem right

                Also, in that ranking

                Big Ten Rankings

                21. Michigan

                25. Northwestern

                36. Illinois

                50. Wisconsin

                65. Minnesota

                75. PSU

                90. OSU

                99. MSU

                113. Purdue

                117. Maryland

                123. Rutgers

                201-250. Iowa, Indiana

                301-350. Nebraska

                .

                Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                  @mld-woody said:

                  And WVU bringing up the rear.

                  And to be fair, the US News ratings are pretty damn flawed. Not that any ranking is perfect though. These rankings are just manipulated by some schools.

                  To be sure, you are correct about college rankings. It is by no means an exact science.

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                  MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                  @the-gipper said:

                  To be sure, you are correct about college rankings. It is by no means an exact science.

                  It can give you a good idea at breaking schools into tiers, but it isn't perfect.

                  One of the main knocks on the US News rankings is the emphasis on acceptance rate. There are ways in which schools can drive their acceptance rate artificially low to move up in the rankings. As an example, some schools send flyers to tons of high school kids. Even those with no chance of getting in. So that they can turn them away. Similarly, it is very easy to apply to all UC schools at once, even if you had no business going to Cal, UCLA, etc. These applications help them drive scores lower.

                  Michigan had a pretty high acceptance rate overall because if the high ratio of in state kids. Additionally, there was a lot of self selection among applicants.

                  Recently though, we've moved to the common app. This has been consistently driving our acceptance rates down over the past few years as more kids apply. The in state to out of state ratio is shifting too.

                  I have noticed Michigan seems consistently higher ranked in World Rankings than it does in the US news rankings. I've seen them as high as #15 in the world before.

                  Then, if you break it down by subject, they're all very high.

                  Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                    @the-gipper said:

                    To be sure, you are correct about college rankings. It is by no means an exact science.

                    It can give you a good idea at breaking schools into tiers, but it isn't perfect.

                    One of the main knocks on the US News rankings is the emphasis on acceptance rate. There are ways in which schools can drive their acceptance rate artificially low to move up in the rankings. As an example, some schools send flyers to tons of high school kids. Even those with no chance of getting in. So that they can turn them away. Similarly, it is very easy to apply to all UC schools at once, even if you had no business going to Cal, UCLA, etc. These applications help them drive scores lower.

                    Michigan had a pretty high acceptance rate overall because if the high ratio of in state kids. Additionally, there was a lot of self selection among applicants.

                    Recently though, we've moved to the common app. This has been consistently driving our acceptance rates down over the past few years as more kids apply. The in state to out of state ratio is shifting too.

                    I have noticed Michigan seems consistently higher ranked in World Rankings than it does in the US news rankings. I've seen them as high as #15 in the world before.

                    Then, if you break it down by subject, they're all very high.

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                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                    @mld-woody said:

                    It can give you a good idea at breaking schools into tiers, but it isn't perfect.

                    One of the main knocks on the US News rankings is the emphasis on acceptance rate. There are ways in which schools can drive their acceptance rate artificially low to move up in the rankings. As an example, some schools send flyers to tons of high school kids. Even those with no chance of getting in. So that they can turn them away. Similarly, it is very easy to apply to all UC schools at once, even if you had no business going to Cal, UCLA, etc. These applications help them drive scores lower.

                    Michigan had a pretty high acceptance rate overall because if the high ratio of in state kids. Additionally, there was a lot of self selection among applicants.

                    Recently though, we've moved to the common app. This has been consistently driving our acceptance rates down over the past few years as more kids apply. The in state to out of state ratio is shifting too.

                    I have noticed Michigan seems consistently higher ranked in World Rankings than it does in the US news rankings. I've seen them as high as #15 in the world before.

                    Then, if you break it down by subject, they're all very high.

                    All Well and Good....but just remember: Michigan sucks. 😉

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                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                      Another

                      http://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/rankings?int=a27a09

                      Michigan #17

                      Northwestern #25

                      Wisconsin #26

                      Minnesota #29

                      Ohio State #34

                      Maryland #41

                      Illinois #43

                      Penn St. #57

                      Rutgers #60

                      Purdue #72

                      MSU #82

                      Indiana #109

                      Iowa #128

                      (ND #173)

                      Nebraska #244

                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                        DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                        My University, Tijuana Tech should be rated No. 1.

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