***Official Browns Vs Broncos Game Day Thread***

nickers

@diehardbrownsfan said:
Bottom line, if fat ass Pettine had gone for 1 instead of 2, we would have 1, capish?

Wow.. Too much sand in your vagina today?

jcam222

@tiredbrownsfan said:
JM is a better QB...simple as that. i have been watching the browns ALMOST do it for 35 years now and im TIRED OF IT!!! same stupid crap no matter who is HC...QB...ECT... JM looks good! PUT HIM IN AND LET HIM LEARN by playing.

Have you even watched the last three games?? You are a moron.

OldBrownsFan

@kvoethe said:
I blame not getting the extra point, all else was ebb and flow in the game, well fought and hell even mingo showed up. I put this loss on pettine. Live and learn.

On one hand the 2 points would put us up by 2 field goals yet on the other hand if Denver would score a td next on the very first play (which they did now we need a field goal to tie instead of a fg to win). It was not a good decision by Pettine but I thought the odds of our being successful on the 2 point conversion went up huge when Denver got the penalty and we got the ball on the one yard line. Still you are right, should have kicked the extra point and put the pressure on Denver to go for 2 on their score.

Why

Defense definitely did not play like world beaters today. Another 150 yards given up on the ground, db's routinely getting torched on the outside and almost no pressure.

They did make some nice stops and a few nice grabs, but they haven't turned any corners . . . Let's not forget this isn't the manning of old or some high powered offense . . . Manning god love him is at the end of his rope.

I wonder how much grease the NFL is gonna put on the Denver wheels so he can go out top?

jcam222

@diehardbrownsfan said:

You've got to be a gay mother fucker.

It just occurred to me you are a literal clone of Soju. You two should hook up. You're both dumb as hell and both very fond of gay references. Give in to it you are meant for each other.

gumby73

Coaches are to coach to win period. Not play for Ties that you may lose. Today we failed as a Team at both. plenty to go around but at the 39, chart or no chart, it's in the line & Coons. Pet & Flip let it go wrong today many times not playing for the win imo. But they don't tackle either..

jrb12711

Here's the thing for me fellas-at the end of the day the NFL is all about winning. Denver might be a "bad" undefeated team but you know what? they have a goose egg in the loss column and we now see a 4. I'm so tired of hearing "we played a great game" and "we're playing competitive". I'm not calling anyone out in particular here, but seriously fuck that line of thinking. I've heard Browns fan say that for going on 10 years. High school and college are the levels to sit there and make that claim, not the NFL.

We had this game by the balls. Our damn near bust top 5 pick actually makes a great play and we need a few yards in the right direction to give our money kicker a chance to win the game. Instead we go back, give the ball back to noodle arm Manning and lose. Al Davis said it best, just win baby. I just truly and completely don't know what it's going to take to turn the damn corner and not lose like the Browns manage to year in and year out.

bbedward

The pick 6 was killer, especially with Denver offense struggling.

Pick by the defense in OT should have been the game clincher, but we took sacks and gave it back to Manning so he could win because we were feeling generous I guess.

Also the pick at the end of regulation, impossibly frustrating.

We had so many chances to win, we just didn't seem to want to.

browns52

@jrb12711 said:

Here's the thing for me fellas-at the end of the day the NFL is all about winning. Denver might be a "bad" undefeated team but you know what? they have a goose egg in the loss column and we now see a 4. I'm so tired of hearing "we played a great game" and "we're playing competitive". I'm not calling anyone out in particular here, but seriously fuck that line of thinking. I've heard Browns fan say that for going on 10 years. High school and college are the levels to sit there and make that claim, not the NFL.

We had this game by the balls. Our damn near bust top 5 pick actually makes a great play and we need a few yards in the right direction to give our money kicker a chance to win the game. Instead we go back, give the ball back to noodle arm Manning and lose. Al Davis said it best, just win baby. I just truly and completely don't know what it's going to take to turn the damn corner and not lose like the Browns manage to year in and year out.

i hate to say it....and i agree with everything you said, but we need a good front ofc...starting with the owner and gm...just look back at all the failures...there are so many that i don't know where to begin...the most recents have been manziel...you know how bad this is...its bad because he is not going to pan out after the latest incident...so that leaves us with a 36 yr old who is not our franchise qb.. i can't believe he is still standing upright after that hit where he fumbled...he's been takin an awful beating all yr...so my guess is he will feel 46 yrs old after this season and call it quits very soon.. so now we still have no qb, .then you look at the latest free agents...hartline and bowe...good lord...do you know where i am going with this...my guess is you do....until we can figure out how to evaluate talent, we are not going to turn any corners...

jcam222

@browns52 said:
i hate to say it....and i agree with everything you said, but we need a good front ofc...starting with the owner and gm...just look back at all the failures...there are so many that i don't know where to begin...the most recents have been manziel...you know how bad this is...its bad because he is not going to pan out after the latest incident...so that leaves us with a 36 yr old who is not our franchise qb.. i can't believe he is still standing upright after that hit where he fumbled...he's been takin an awful beating all yr...so my guess is he will feel 46 yrs old after this season and call it quits very soon.. so now we still have no qb, .then you look at the latest free agents...hartline and bowe...good lord...do you know where i am going with this...my guess is you do....until we can figure out how to evaluate talent, we are not going to turn any corners...

The worlds longest sentence call Guinness. Take your Ritalin, take a deep breath and see if you can form whole rational sentences. Were you poked in the head a lot while still in the womb?? Sorry about that I should have been more careful.

Tour2ma

@diehardbrownsfan said:
You've got to be a gay mother fucker.

You use both brain cells to come up with that one?

miktoxic

@browns52 said:
i hate to say it....and i agree with everything you said, but we need a good front ofc...starting with the owner and gm...just look back at all the failures...there are so many that i don't know where to begin...the most recents have been manziel...you know how bad this is...its bad because he is not going to pan out after the latest incident...so that leaves us with a 36 yr old who is not our franchise qb.. i can't believe he is still standing upright after that hit where he fumbled...he's been takin an awful beating all yr...so my guess is he will feel 46 yrs old after this season and call it quits very soon.. so now we still have no qb, .then you look at the latest free agents...hartline and bowe...good lord...do you know where i am going with this...my guess is you do....until we can figure out how to evaluate talent, we are not going to turn any corners...

alot of so=called fans don't have the fortitude to stick by the team they love.

broken hearts are for assholes but if you let a game and some scrub fans turn your position.....you are not a soldier.

browns52

@jcam222 said:
The worlds longest sentence call Guinness. Take your Ritalin, take a deep breath and see if you can form whole rational sentences. Were you poked in the head a lot while still in the womb?? Sorry about that I should have been more careful.

all right...took my ritalin...we can't draft well, we suck at free agency...that all points to the owner and gm...nuff said...we ain't turnin any corners until that is fixed. end of story...

hoorta

@miktoxic said:

alot of so=called fans don't have the fortitude to stick by the team they love.

broken hearts are for assholes but if you let a game and some scrub fans turn your position.....you are not a soldier.

Kellen Winslow was a "soldier" and where did that get us Mik? It's not just scrub fans either.

You know the surest way to tell the diehard fans have quit? And are disgusted with the product the Browns are putting on the field? I'm in Section 111- it's totally sold out to Browns season ticket holders. You'd need around 30 years of seniority, or a ton of money to buy into my section. So why was I surrounded by Broncos fans today? I'll tell you why- because around 20% of our long time fans would rather sell off their seats at a profit- probably to fans of the opposing team- and sit back and watch the game at home on the tube. Far less hassle, and a damnsite warmer than it was at the stadium today.

hoorta

Faded said:

Screw that fans crap. That was for 30 years ago. At these prices for tickets, parking, beer, and hot dogs, I'm a consumer, and I find the product is deficient...

Exactly. Today- Parking $15, two tickets $190, four drinks $36, two hot dogs $12 = $253. If you went to a restaurant with the wife and dropped that kind of money on dinner- and got a lousy meal, you don't think you're within your rights to bitch to the manager you're not happy about it?

Why

@miktoxic said:

alot of so=called fans don't have the fortitude to stick by the team they love.

broken hearts are for assholes but if you let a game and some scrub fans turn your position.....you are not a soldier.

There's a difference between sticking by your team and handing out free passes for every dumb fuck thing they do.

That OT period today was a dismal clusterfuck. The defense couldn't even get up to the line or off the field in time. The play call after the INT was just about the worst call you can possibly make in that situation. HB toss sweep, to a back playing his first game behind our line, coming off a long injury break . . . what in the actual fuck . . . Was flip hitting the bong with Gordon at halftime?

These guys get paid millions to coach / play the least they can do is learn from their mistakes and stop fucking up routine things like getting to the line, or not losing 15

Yards when all you need to do is gain 5 for a legit shot at a game winning field goal.

We got flagged for illegal formation on a punt today . . . I mean damn

jrb12711

@hoorta said:

Exactly. Today- Parking $15, two tickets $190, four drinks $36, two hot dogs $12 = $253. If you went to a restaurant with the wife and dropped that kind of money on dinner- and got a lousy meal, you don't think you're within your rights to bitch to the manager you're not happy about it?

This is my point exactly here-it's not a matter of not being a fan of the Browns because we always will be. I'm just so tired year after year of hearing "that was a moral victory" and "they played hard out there". That BS isn't meant for the NFL and is just tiresome to see each and every week. We didn't just have a chance at this game, we HAD this game firmly. To blow the game is just incredible to me and still just makes me so disgusted thinking about it. Using Hoorta's example, we've been eating the same lousy meal for a decade and it gets tougher to swallow each season.

miktoxic

Faded said:

Screw that fans crap. That was for 30 years ago. At these prices for tickets, parking, beer, and hot dogs, I'm a consumer, and I find the product is deficient...

who fucking wants to go to a stadium and watch a game? not me.

2 miles away there are 10 50 inch hd tvs with every game you'd want to see on them, with very good looking big tittted bartenders 'tending' to my every need. that 'going to games, waiting in traffic, being drunk, yelling obsenities and starting fights got tired about 20 years ago. if the rest of yo haven't figured it out yet then you are the dumb ones.

BrownsKidd

Frustrating it was to watch the team beat themselves after Mingo's pick. You had to have known that Denver was going to send the entire farm our last drive in their territory. If there is one criticism I have for McCown, he's horrible under pressure. He hold's onto the ball to long and has no internal clock to tell him that he needs to move out of the pocket or move his feet to make something happen. Instead, he stands there and let's the pocket swallow him like Boba Fett in a Sarlacc pit. I can understand why some people feel that Manziel might help us in these situations. But alas, JFF just might be a patched up ship ready to sink again.

Denver gift wrapped that game for us and we blew it with some questionable play calls and an offensive line that is shit. If you know that Denver is going to blow you up, you call a play to counter it. Instead we call plays that gives Denver and open invitation to our QB.

If you're not frustrated after that, you've given up hope.

miktoxic

he's horrible? set the franchise record for passing last week.

what was horrible was the fact that flip couldn't draw up something that the broncos hadn't seen in that situation yesterday. who didn't know we'd run or pap those 3 downs going in reverse on both drives where we coulda won the game?