The Final Solution?

[The Gipper]

What in fucking hell does all this have to do with QB prospects? Or maybe you think these guys come out of a hair band:

[The Gipper]

Our boy Josh is coming close to rockin' it Hitler Youth style though

[The Gipper]

I guess a Thread called "The Final Solution" had to end up here, fair to say. Here is another spitting image of Josh McCown:

[Tour2ma]

lol... and I feel shame...

[Tim Couch Pulls Out]

@the-gipper said:

No, this thread is not about The Holocaust.....but about 2016 NFL draft prospects. Specifically: Quarterbacks.

Do any of these float your boat?:

3 Jared Goff QB 1 California Jr 6-4 210 1 10

Connor Cook QB 2 Michigan State rSr 6-4 220 1 45

Cardale Jones QB 3 Ohio State rJr 6-5 250 2 48

Christian Hackenberg QB 4 Penn State Jr 6-4 236 2 66

Gunner Kiel QB 5 Cincinnati rJr 6-4 208 2-3 75

Joshua Dobbs QB 6 Tennessee Jr 6-3 212 2-3 85

Dak Prescott QB 7 Mississippi State rSr 6-2 230 3 89

Carson Wentz QB 8 North Dakota State Sr 6-5 231 3 101

Brandon Doughty QB 9 Western Kentucky rSr 6-3 216 3-4 117

Cody Kessler QB 10 Southern California rSr 6-1 215 3-4 157

Nate Sudfeld QB 11 Indiana Sr 6-6 240 4-5 173

Kevin Hogan QB 12 Stanford rSr 6-4 225 5 201

Jacoby Brissett QB 13 NC State rSr 6-3 235 5-6 213

Trevone Boykin QB 14 TCU rSr 6-1 205 6 230

Blake Frohnapfel QB 15 Massachusetts rSr 6-6 230 6-7 237

Mike Bercovici QB 16 Arizona State rSr 6-0 205 6-7 270

Vad Lee QB 17 James Madison rSr 6-1 225 7-FA 280

Taysom Hill QB 18 Brigham Young Sr 6-2 232 7-FA 285

Jeff Driskel QB 19 Louisiana Tech rSr 6-4 234 7-FA 303

Travis Wilson QB 20 Utah Sr 6-7 233 7-FA 359

Max Wittek QB 21 Hawaii rSr 6-3 240 –– 369

Matt Johnson QB 22 Bowling Green rSr 6-0 221 –– 381

Vernon Adams Jr. QB 23 Oregon rSr 5-11 205 –– 397

Jake Coker QB 24 Alabama rSr 6-5 232 –– 409

John Robertson QB 25 Villanova rSr 6-1 221 ––

Definitely's:

Connor Cook

Paxton Lynch

Maybe's:

Max Wittek

Cody Kessler

Gunnar Kiel

[Tim Couch Pulls Out]

In all likelihood, Paxton Lynch may get the Christian Ponder treatment and go in the first round. This will probably kill his NFL career, because he is not a day one starter by any means. Let me be clear, I am in no way advocating that we take Lynch in the first round. However, I think he has a great framework of intangibles as well as the right physical frame to be a good NFL QB.

I couldn't tell you his stats offhand - I prefer it that way, because I believe looking at a prospect's stats before analyzing their play gives the viewer a skewed look. So my analysis is solely based off of what I'm seeing on the field. And what I see on the field is that Lynch just has "it". He is clearly the leader of that offense, he is not overwhelmed with the playbook, he is always attempting to move the ball downfield even when a play is broken, and he knows where his guys are.

Lynch, in my opinion, is being horribly misused in Memphis and is still managing to play decently well. To me, Lynch's strengths lie in his ability to work the pocket and recognize open players when under duress. Those are two things he is unflinchingly talented at. However, Memphis has him oftentimes throwing on the run, rolling the pocket to the left and to the right to buy him time, which exploits his biggest weakness - his accuracy on the run.

When Lynch executes what I call an "real" play - a play that you'd actually see an NFL QB run on Sundays - his talent is apparent. Clean drop back, work up the pocket, pick his receiver and strike...that's where Lynch excels. Under duress, he works back up the pocket, then out, identifying an open man...that is also where Lynch excels. However, the disconnect lies in his ability to accurately deliver the ball on the move...that's where he fails.

As for his physical strength, Lynch has what scouts call an "active arm" - that is, his balls have some mustard on them. (That is the weirdest sentence I have ever typed). Lynch has exhibited the ability to make throws that would make even Tom Brady cream in his pants. Conversely, Lynch also throws some of the ugliest passes I have ever seen. As I stated before, his throws tend to be a hell of a lot nicer when he's executing a "real" play.

In my eyes, Lynch is a great second or third round prospect. He needs to be thrown in QB school, but the intangibles are there, the physicality is there, and the talent is there. Lynch would be a GREAT backup to McCown for a year (or two).

[gumby73]

@tour2ma said:

lol... and I feel shame...

Well said for all of us & got no clue how Josh can take lid off & on & wala same hair style..

[ColumbusKing]

Mel Kiper moved Lynch up to the #2 QB in the next draft behind Goff. But I think he can come back for a another year after this season.

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@columbusking said:

Mel Kiper moved Lynch up to the #2 QB in the next draft behind Goff. But I think he can come back for a another year after this season.

And it's shit like that that kills QB's. Mel Kiper is the worst thing in the world when it comes to evaluating talent correctly. He arbitrarily inflates the stock of prospects according to absolutely nothing, and then it ruins the careers of players - especially quarterbacks.

EJ Manuel would have likely been a great "project" QB. Kyle Boller too. But Kiper just blows them up all out of proportion in order to say he was there first and to capitalize on the hype, and then these guys go WELL ahead of where they actually should go because a trigger-happy GM is afraid of missing out. Then these guys get thrown into the fire immediately and collapse like a flan in a cupboard under all of the pressure, and are crapped out of the league in 5 years.

[Tour2ma]

Sound like Lynch is already a Tannehill type, draft riser... I haven't seen him yet.

Can't fault Kiper though for agreeing with you, TC. Not Kiper's fault if a GM goes crazy. Also no rule that says a #1 can't sit and learn... even if you already have one of those. Not exactly the road less traveled, but it's a way teams can still go.

[Flyin J]

@tour2ma said:

Sound like Lynch is already a Tannehill type, draft riser... I haven't seen him yet.

Can't fault Kiper though for agreeing with you, TC. Not Kiper's fault if a GM goes crazy. Also no rule that says a #1 can't sit and learn... even if you already have one of those. Not exactly the road less traveled, but it's a way teams can still go.

Pretty sure he was playin on ESPN when you typed this haha. Looked pretty damn good too.