Joe Thomas
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I'm hoping the broncos called, and ray said "we want a first...and a second..." "OK" "...and then throw in your linebacker as well..." "umm..." "...and give us a 4th while you're at it"
Just to fuck with the broncos. Because the alternative - that he was seriously considering trading JT - is a bit troublesome. You can trade just about anyone on this team, but trade JT and there will be a full scale revolt.
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That was just wrong, Zombo.
and, I gave you a good job on that post, Chris....
(hah !)
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That was just wrong, Zombo.
and, I gave you a good job on that post, Chris....
(hah !)
You know what they say about sun shines and dogs asses. And you, my friend, are a huge dog's ass
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As much as I love Joe he's not getting any younger. A first and a second next year would be a nice prize. Next year Denver starts over.
Assuming, of course, that whoever the GM is next year doesn't pull a ray farmer on us.
WSS
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You know what they say about sun shines and dogs asses. And you, my friend, are a huge dog's ass
Chris****************************************************
well, you are what comes out of the huge dogs ass.
(now, how the hell can I UN-good job that post.......dammit....)
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The Browns have enough overall talent to be a playoff contender.
um no they don't. Seriously. No they don't. They've got a few players that deserve honorable mentions
um no they don't. Seriously. No they don't. They've got a few players that deserve honorable mentions
Talent evaluation wise at the beginning of the year....yes, they do. But a few things have occurred: Injuries have diminished a few good players......like Joe Haden.
And bad coaching begets bad playing. Its like a movie.....you can have some of the greatest acting talent up on that screen, but if the writing for that movie is piss poor (say GM) .....and the directing of those great actors is piss poor (coaching)....you have a bad movie. Great actors cannot cure it.
Like some of these:
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/10-terrible-films-starring-great-actors-20150324
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Gip, you do realize who it is your use of the "movie thing" puts you in the company of... don't you?
And no, it's not WestSideSteve...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Gip, you do realize who it is your use of the "movie thing" puts you in the company of... don't you?
And no, it's not WestSideSteve...
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um no they don't. Seriously. No they don't. They've got a few players that deserve honorable mentions
Talent evaluation wise at the beginning of the year....yes, they do. But a few things have occurred: Injuries have diminished a few good players......like Joe Haden.
And bad coaching begets bad playing. Its like a movie.....you can have some of the greatest acting talent up on that screen, but if the writing for that movie is piss poor (say GM) .....and the directing of those great actors is piss poor (coaching)....you have a bad movie. Great actors cannot cure it.
Like some of these:
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/10-terrible-films-starring-great-actors-20150324
Talent evaluation wise at the beginning of the year....yes, they do. But a few things have occurred: Injuries have diminished a few good players......like Joe Haden.
And bad coaching begets bad playing. Its like a movie.....you can have some of the greatest acting talent up on that screen, but if the writing for that movie is piss poor (say GM) .....and the directing of those great actors is piss poor (coaching)....you have a bad movie. Great actors cannot cure it.
Like some of these:
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/10-terrible-films-starring-great-actors-20150324
i'm sorry I've seen too many of our guys beat in situaitons where scheme didn't matter, it was just a matter of beating the guy infront of you. I know they've been using Kruger horrendously, I do not fault him for getting beat in the flat or across the middle by a good TE. It's absurd we're even talking about him being used like that....however, I've just seen him beat too much at the point..even by TE's. And receiving TE's at that. When teams can nullify your edges with TE's, means they're sending the lineman to the 2nd level. That's SHIT. And I see this kind of base ineptitude over a lot of our players, mostly defense but the offensive lineman are also getting beasted one up.
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I don't like the "getting old" argument for JT.
Guys playing as good as ever, no signs of slowing down soon.
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Talent evaluation wise at the beginning of the year....yes, they do. But a few things have occurred: Injuries have diminished a few good players......like Joe Haden.
And bad coaching begets bad playing. Its like a movie.....you can have some of the greatest acting talent up on that screen, but if the writing for that movie is piss poor (say GM) .....and the directing of those great actors is piss poor (coaching)....you have a bad movie. Great actors cannot cure it.
Like some of these:
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/10-terrible-films-starring-great-actors-20150324
i'm sorry I've seen too many of our guys beat in situaitons where scheme didn't matter, it was just a matter of beating the guy infront of you. I know they've been using Kruger horrendously, I do not fault him for getting beat in the flat or across the middle by a good TE. It's absurd we're even talking about him being used like that....however, I've just seen him beat too much at the point..even by TE's. And receiving TE's at that. When teams can nullify your edges with TE's, means they're sending the lineman to the 2nd level. That's SHIT. And I see this kind of base ineptitude over a lot of our players, mostly defense but the offensive lineman are also getting beasted one up.
...however, I've just seen him beat too much at the point..even by TE's.
There it is.....watch him and you will see him get blocked, boxed out and beaten on almost every single play......
Heck, Justin Gilbert has one less tackle than Kruger and he's only played ST.....
400+ snaps and only 9 tackles......n-i-n-e....
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NOPE.
Deal didn't get done in time, despite being reported by ESPN.
HAHA FUCK YOU DENVER.
NOPE.
Deal didn't get done in time, despite being reported by ESPN.
HAHA FUCK YOU DENVER.
Great comment from cleveland.com
what Ray didnt say in his presser was that the Thomas to Denver deal fell through because he asked the Broncos to make the picks for him
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...however, I've just seen him beat too much at the point..even by TE's.
There it is.....watch him and you will see him get blocked, boxed out and beaten on almost every single play......
Heck, Justin Gilbert has one less tackle than Kruger and he's only played ST.....
400+ snaps and only 9 tackles......n-i-n-e....
There it is.....watch him and you will see him get blocked, boxed out and beaten on almost every single play......
Heck, Justin Gilbert has one less tackle than Kruger and he's only played ST.....
400+ snaps and only 9 tackles......n-i-n-e....
Gtfo....one less. Sucks we couldn't move him but fuck who wants him? Now watch him go somewhere next year where they convert him to a DE and have a Jared Allen like resurgence. Speaking of which, that fucker still has some shit left in his tank. Carolina can't leave him in there all game like they did on Monday, all those guys gassed out. But fuck me Jared Allen kind of looks like he's got his old pop back. I fail to see how Kruger looks less powerful and explosive off the line even when he has his hands down....than a 33 year old Allen who looks like he should be playing in a band with westside at this point.
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um no they don't. Seriously. No they don't. They've got a few players that deserve honorable mentions
Talent evaluation wise at the beginning of the year....yes, they do. But a few things have occurred: Injuries have diminished a few good players......like Joe Haden.
And bad coaching begets bad playing. Its like a movie.....you can have some of the greatest acting talent up on that screen, but if the writing for that movie is piss poor (say GM) .....and the directing of those great actors is piss poor (coaching)....you have a bad movie. Great actors cannot cure it.
Like some of these:
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/10-terrible-films-starring-great-actors-20150324
Talent evaluation wise at the beginning of the year....yes, they do. But a few things have occurred: Injuries have diminished a few good players......like Joe Haden.
And bad coaching begets bad playing. Its like a movie.....you can have some of the greatest acting talent up on that screen, but if the writing for that movie is piss poor (say GM) .....and the directing of those great actors is piss poor (coaching)....you have a bad movie. Great actors cannot cure it.
Like some of these:
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/10-terrible-films-starring-great-actors-20150324
Talent evaluation wise at the beginning of the year....yes, they do. But a few things have occurred: Injuries have diminished a few good players......like Joe Haden.
And bad coaching begets bad playing. Its like a movie.....you can have some of the greatest acting talent up on that screen, but if the writing for that movie is piss poor (say GM) .....and the directing of those great actors is piss poor (coaching)....you have a bad movie. Great actors cannot cure it.
Like some of these:
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/10-terrible-films-starring-great-actors-20150324
kind of reminds me of the movie the dirty dozen...how many incredible actors were in that movie and it worked because of the writing and directing etc etc. it worked well. if you had a bad script the opposite would have occured...
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Talent evaluation wise at the beginning of the year....yes, they do. But a few things have occurred: Injuries have diminished a few good players......like Joe Haden.
And bad coaching begets bad playing. Its like a movie.....you can have some of the greatest acting talent up on that screen, but if the writing for that movie is piss poor (say GM) .....and the directing of those great actors is piss poor (coaching)....you have a bad movie. Great actors cannot cure it.
Like some of these:
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/10-terrible-films-starring-great-actors-20150324
Talent evaluation wise at the beginning of the year....yes, they do. But a few things have occurred: Injuries have diminished a few good players......like Joe Haden.
And bad coaching begets bad playing. Its like a movie.....you can have some of the greatest acting talent up on that screen, but if the writing for that movie is piss poor (say GM) .....and the directing of those great actors is piss poor (coaching)....you have a bad movie. Great actors cannot cure it.
Like some of these:
http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/10-terrible-films-starring-great-actors-20150324
kind of reminds me of the movie the dirty dozen...how many incredible actors were in that movie and it worked because of the writing and directing etc etc. it worked well. if you had a bad script the opposite would have occured...
kind of reminds me of the movie the dirty dozen...how many incredible actors were in that movie and it worked because of the writing and directing etc etc. it worked well. if you had a bad script the opposite would have occured...
let me add, if lee marvin were still alive i'd want him as our gm.
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kind of reminds me of the movie the dirty dozen...how many incredible actors were in that movie and it worked because of the writing and directing etc etc. it worked well. if you had a bad script the opposite would have occured...
let me add, if lee marvin were still alive i'd want him as our gm.
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Well, we know which actor in that movie we would want as our running back for sure.
Well, we know which actor in that movie we would want as our running back for sure.
without a doubt....without a doubt
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TC...
Is it wrong to think that there is a lot more unverified reporting these days? That second sources are optional and the need to be first often trumps the need to be right?
Agreed - Joe is no roadgrader, but I figure there is no roadgrader in the NFL, who can also do what Joe does. Surely the abilities are mutually exclusive.
Today? None I can think of, but over time?
Munoz... Ogden... Pace... Jones... All were in the same class as Joe as a pass blocker and all were also road graders.
Today? None I can think of, but over time?
Munoz... Ogden... Pace... Jones... All were in the same class as Joe as a pass blocker and all were also road graders.
None Correct. JT Wins. You add in his durability playing with dinks and never missing a start compared to list above JT stands alone.
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