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  • gftChris gftChrisG
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    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34751370

    US President Barack Obama has announced he is rejecting an application to build the Keystone XL pipeline.
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      LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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      He hates gainful employment and less dependence on foreign oil. Fantastic.

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        bbedwardB bbedward wrote on last edited by
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        I'm not too familiar with the keystone pipeline, why's it such a controversy? Just that we want to avoid oil?

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          He hates gainful employment and less dependence on foreign oil. Fantastic.

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          @logicisforsquares said:

          He hates gainful employment and less dependence on foreign oil. Fantastic.

          Just saw him this morning on msnbc jabbering away about improved US oil production making dependence on unstable foreign oil decline.

          Assclown.

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            C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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            That pipeline wouldn't make the slightest dent in our unemployment numbers. Why are infrastructure jobs ridiculed as shovel ready rubbish that disappear after the project is done but people act like this pipeline will spawn magic fairies that will spread out across the continent bestowing employment on all of us like some harry potter bullshit?

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              That pipeline wouldn't make the slightest dent in our unemployment numbers. Why are infrastructure jobs ridiculed as shovel ready rubbish that disappear after the project is done but people act like this pipeline will spawn magic fairies that will spread out across the continent bestowing employment on all of us like some harry potter bullshit?

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              @clevfan4life said:

              That pipeline wouldn't make the slightest dent in our unemployment numbers. Why are infrastructure jobs ridiculed as shovel ready rubbish that disappear after the project is done but people act like this pipeline will spawn magic fairies that will spread out across the continent bestowing employment on all of us like some harry potter bullshit?

              Hard to say. Why do you assholes squeal like a stuck pig about the pipeline but cry like little bitches because we won't hire more union road workers?

              And of course it would make a dent. It would also make a dent our energy independence.

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                F FairHooker11 wrote on last edited by
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                http://www.npr.org/2015/02/25/389008046/a-hard-look-at-the-risks-of-transporting-oil-on-rail-tanker-cars

                and the railroad is already overused getting the petrol from Canada & ND down to the refineries

                to the point of possible hazardous accidents.

                Arent you libs against that? no?

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                  That pipeline wouldn't make the slightest dent in our unemployment numbers. Why are infrastructure jobs ridiculed as shovel ready rubbish that disappear after the project is done but people act like this pipeline will spawn magic fairies that will spread out across the continent bestowing employment on all of us like some harry potter bullshit?

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                  LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                  @clevfan4life said:

                  That pipeline wouldn't make the slightest dent in our unemployment numbers. Why are infrastructure jobs ridiculed as shovel ready rubbish that disappear after the project is done but people act like this pipeline will spawn magic fairies that will spread out across the continent bestowing employment on all of us like some harry potter bullshit?

                  You realize the jobs that are created to support a pipeline operation? It isn't just the people working on the pipeline. Service industry people make $16 an hour to support the boom right now in North Dakota. I work in oil and gas. It isn't just the project. It is all of the supporting industries.

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                    http://www.npr.org/2015/02/25/389008046/a-hard-look-at-the-risks-of-transporting-oil-on-rail-tanker-cars

                    and the railroad is already overused getting the petrol from Canada & ND down to the refineries

                    to the point of possible hazardous accidents.

                    Arent you libs against that? no?

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                    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                    @fairhooker11 said:

                    http://www.npr.org/2015/02/25/389008046/a-hard-look-at-the-risks-of-transporting-oil-on-rail-tanker-cars

                    and the railroad is already overused getting the petrol from Canada & ND down to the refineries

                    to the point of possible hazardous accidents.

                    Arent you libs against that? no?

                    CSX has rail workers who are facing layoffs due to the slow down in coal. The Pipeline would give these people work.

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                      B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
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                      Dependence on fossil fuels also moves us away from nuclear power, are those jobs not important?

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                        Dependence on fossil fuels also moves us away from nuclear power, are those jobs not important?

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                        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                        @baconhound said:

                        Dependence on fossil fuels also moves us away from nuclear power, are those jobs not important?

                        Cool. Get started on getting everyone on board with building nuclear power plants after Fukishima and we will have this conversation again. Until then, I will keep the conversation grounded in reality.

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                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                          Right. The public is stupid and easily controlled with fear mongering propaganda (.... cough.... )

                          Nuclear Power sounds scary. That's all a lot of people need. Fuck the fact it is probably our best option and needs to researched and invested in.

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                            Dependence on fossil fuels also moves us away from nuclear power, are those jobs not important?

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                            AxeA Axe wrote on last edited by
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                            @baconhound said:

                            Dependence on fossil fuels also moves us away from nuclear power, are those jobs not important?

                            And, the results of legalization keep pouring in

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                              Right. The public is stupid and easily controlled with fear mongering propaganda (.... cough.... )

                              Nuclear Power sounds scary. That's all a lot of people need. Fuck the fact it is probably our best option and needs to researched and invested in.

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                              LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                              @mld-woody said:

                              Right. The public is stupid and easily controlled with fear mongering propaganda (.... cough.... )

                              Nuclear Power sounds scary. That's all a lot of people need. Fuck the fact it is probably our best option and needs to researched and invested in.

                              Nuclear power is just fine but the public image took a huge hit after Fukishima. People were already iffy after what happened at Three Mile Island and Chernobyl.

                              So we could sit and have a conversation about an energy source that scares the shit out of people or we could discuss a pipeline that could be realistically built soon if politicians didn't make it an ordeal.

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                                Right. The public is stupid and easily controlled with fear mongering propaganda (.... cough.... )

                                Nuclear Power sounds scary. That's all a lot of people need. Fuck the fact it is probably our best option and needs to researched and invested in.

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                                W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                                @mld-woody said:

                                Right. The public is stupid and easily controlled with fear mongering propaganda (.... cough.... )

                                Nuclear Power sounds scary. That's all a lot of people need. Fuck the fact it is probably our best option and needs to researched and invested in.

                                I think you can thank the left for that fear mongering.

                                High time to quit being pussies about nuclear energy.

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                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  Right. The public is stupid and easily controlled with fear mongering propaganda (.... cough.... )

                                  Nuclear Power sounds scary. That's all a lot of people need. Fuck the fact it is probably our best option and needs to researched and invested in.

                                  Nuclear power is just fine but the public image took a huge hit after Fukishima. People were already iffy after what happened at Three Mile Island and Chernobyl.

                                  So we could sit and have a conversation about an energy source that scares the shit out of people or we could discuss a pipeline that could be realistically built soon if politicians didn't make it an ordeal.

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                                  @logicisforsquares said:

                                  Nuclear power is just fine but the public image took a huge hit after Fukishima. People were already iffy after what happened at Three Mile Island and Chernobyl.

                                  So we could sit and have a conversation about an energy source that scares the shit out of people or we could discuss a pipeline that could be realistically built soon if politicians didn't make it an ordeal.

                                  Exxon Valdez, Deep Water Horizon.

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                                    @logicisforsquares said:

                                    Nuclear power is just fine but the public image took a huge hit after Fukishima. People were already iffy after what happened at Three Mile Island and Chernobyl.

                                    So we could sit and have a conversation about an energy source that scares the shit out of people or we could discuss a pipeline that could be realistically built soon if politicians didn't make it an ordeal.

                                    Exxon Valdez, Deep Water Horizon.

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                                    @baconhound said:

                                    Exxon Valdez, Deep Water Horizon.

                                    Just to be the devil's advocate, better or worse than Chernobyl?

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                                      @baconhound said:

                                      Exxon Valdez, Deep Water Horizon.

                                      Just to be the devil's advocate, better or worse than Chernobyl?

                                      WSS

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                                      @westside-steve said:

                                      Just to be the devil's advocate, better or worse than Chernobyl?

                                      WSS

                                      Good question. To be honest I really don't know how this will all shake scientifically or economically and it's probably speculation at this point by ecologists and economists. I will say this though Exxon and Horizon were worse from my perspective because they happened closer to the US.

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                                        @logicisforsquares said:

                                        Nuclear power is just fine but the public image took a huge hit after Fukishima. People were already iffy after what happened at Three Mile Island and Chernobyl.

                                        So we could sit and have a conversation about an energy source that scares the shit out of people or we could discuss a pipeline that could be realistically built soon if politicians didn't make it an ordeal.

                                        Exxon Valdez, Deep Water Horizon.

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                                        LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                        @baconhound said:

                                        Exxon Valdez, Deep Water Horizon.

                                        Oh, so the ocean where the spill happened is completely unuseable for the next thousand years?

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                                          @baconhound said:

                                          Exxon Valdez, Deep Water Horizon.

                                          Oh, so the ocean where the spill happened is completely unuseable for the next thousand years?

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                                          @logicisforsquares said:

                                          Oh, so the ocean where the spill happened is completely unuseable for the next thousand years?

                                          SMH, neither you nor I are capable of truly grasping how any of these accidents will resonate through all the ecosystems, economic systems, etc. so let's no be foolhardy enough to act like we know the future. However we can grasp that both nuclear energy and fossil fuels, oil and natural gas, have had negative impacts on both the environment and the economy.

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