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  • Next game, vs Ravens: Danny Shelton drops in to coverage against Justin Forsett.

  • Next game, vs Ravens: Danny Shelton drops in to coverage against Justin Forsett.

    @gftchris said:

    Next game, vs Ravens: Danny Shelton drops in to coverage against Justin Forsett.

    this game is like a prime time scheduled game i think...The nfl needs to flex this game out to a very localized area like somewhere overseas...

  • @gftchris said:

    Next game, vs Ravens: Danny Shelton drops in to coverage against Justin Forsett.

    this game is like a prime time scheduled game i think...The nfl needs to flex this game out to a very localized area like somewhere overseas...

    @browns52 said:

    this game is like a prime time scheduled game i think...The nfl needs to flex this game out to a very localized area like somewhere overseas...

    Its the Monday night Football game. Those games cannot be flexed out.

  • @browns52 said:

    this game is like a prime time scheduled game i think...The nfl needs to flex this game out to a very localized area like somewhere overseas...

    Its the Monday night Football game. Those games cannot be flexed out.

    @mark-o said:

    Its the Monday night Football game. Those games cannot be flexed out.

    lets see if we can get a pool together to come up with some money so we can bribe them to change it...

  • It's Monday night? Danny, I'm gonna miss one of our few wins of the season.

  • Wow - crazy amounts of dysfunction. As much as I like Pet the man, this dysfunction is squarely on his shoulders and not hearing or seeing it, and then fixing it speaks volumes of his coaching ability.

    Once your the HC of an NFL team, it's no longer about the Xs and Os, it's about managing the people in your building, and he apparently (his 3-14 record since the Bungles game proves it) is failing miserably.

    He better open his eyes and ears, shut his mouth and make the changes needed, or he will soon no longer have to worry about it.......... maybe ever.

  • Wow - crazy amounts of dysfunction. As much as I like Pet the man, this dysfunction is squarely on his shoulders and not hearing or seeing it, and then fixing it speaks volumes of his coaching ability.

    Once your the HC of an NFL team, it's no longer about the Xs and Os, it's about managing the people in your building, and he apparently (his 3-14 record since the Bungles game proves it) is failing miserably.

    He better open his eyes and ears, shut his mouth and make the changes needed, or he will soon no longer have to worry about it.......... maybe ever.

    @d-bone said:

    Wow - crazy amounts of dysfunction. As much as I like Pet the man, this dysfunction is squarely on his shoulders and not hearing or seeing it, and then fixing it speaks volumes of his coaching ability.

    Once your the HC of an NFL team, it's no longer about the Xs and Os, it's about managing the people in your building, and he apparently (his 3-14 record since the Bungles game proves it) he failing miserably.

    He better open his eyes and ears, shut his mouth and make the changes needed, or he will soon no longer have to worry about it.......... maybe ever.

    That's all very true. Hopefully over the next week off there will be some changes.

  • We had better not hire that moron from New Orleans who is proud of the hairstyle of a homeless alcoholic.

    If anyone could manage to make the Browns D worse.. it's him.

  • The more I look at this defense, on paper (schematically) the more I just don't believe its a viable way to attack in today's NFL.

    If you're going to get rid of O'Neil, you're going to have to tweak the defensive philosophy of this team and consequently Pettine will have

    to do the same.

    Whether he's willing is a different matter entirely.

  • Haslam said there won't be any changes over the bye. Did Rob Ryan ever work with the Browns in the past? Living off his Father's name has worn thin. He stinks! Go after Mike Singletary and Greg Sciano

  • Back to the article. So who will speak up for the LB's that are put out of position?

  • Haslam said there won't be any changes over the bye. Did Rob Ryan ever work with the Browns in the past? Living off his Father's name has worn thin. He stinks! Go after Mike Singletary and Greg Sciano

    @opal312 said:

    Haslam said there won't be any changes over the bye. Did Rob Ryan ever work with the Browns in the past? Living off his Father's name has worn thin. He stinks! Go after Mike Singletary and Greg Sciano

    Haslam is stubborn and won't make changes. After his purge just a year and a half ago he does not want to look like a meddling, overreacting owner who makes changes willy nilly.

    But....the fact is, this is the worst looking defense.....the most poorly managed, poorly scheme, wrongheaded utilization of talent that I have ever seen in a Browns team....and I go back to like 1962 in watching Browns teams.

    The expansion team defense in 1999 looked more competent than this.

  • Back to the article. So who will speak up for the LB's that are put out of position?

    @texasag1969 said:

    Back to the article. So who will speak up for the LB's that are put out of position?

    It has happened before......if basically the entire defense goes to Pettine and says that we cannot play in this system, and they want the DC fired.....he would be gone.

    What is Pettine going to do......cut the bunch of them?

    The "coup" would have to be led by the veterans: Haden, Dansby, Whitner, Williams, Starks, Kruger, etc.

  • www.factoryofsadness.com

    The Cleveland Browns embarrassed themselves in a loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers, and the Factory of Sadness Voice of the Fan is ready to clean house.

    Have you ever seen an NFL team look this SAD! The Cleveland Browns possess absolutely some of the worst offense and defense the Shield has ever known!

    Ben Roethlisberger started the game on the bench. Big Ben was out with a bad foot, and would only play if backup Landry Jones went down. In true Browns fashion, Cleveland knocked out Jones on the first series of the game, which opened to the door for Roethlisberger. He was obviously very imobile and yet, the Browns pass rush was invisible! He had 379 yards, three touchdowns and an interception!

    The Browns miss on draft picks also provided the fan base with tough pills to swallow.

    On top of having no one who could put pressure on Big Ben, the secondary was abysmal. Pierre Desir watched seasoned receiver fly by him for a touchdown, while the Lindenwood product looked like his feet were buried cement! Cleveland hasnt got a corner or a safety that could cover an old granny using a walker! How bad must Justin Gilbert be!?! (He was inactive,by the way).

    Pass interference penalties crushed the Browns. A 39-yard pass interference call against Johnson Bademosi was followed by a 38-yard interference call on Tramon Williams. The secondary is supposed to be Mike Pettines speciality, but in Pittsburgh, it probably wanted to make him puke!

    And then theres the offense, and what Pettine will try and call a running game. At halftime, the offense had negative rushing yards. For the game, Browns backs Duke Johnson and Isaiah Crowell combined to carry the ball 10 times for 5 yards; 0.5 yards per carry. Are you kidding me! Manziel led all Browns rushers with 17 yards on three carries. Just an absolute embarrassment!

    Cameron Erving made his long awaited first start at left guard, the position he took the least reps at in training camp. He looked like he shouldve been a fifth-round pick by how poor he played.

    The lack of the receivers needed to be a real NFL team is very evident here, again! The Surfs Ray Farmer put together cant get open and have problems separating from any and all defensive backs! This is the same problem this rag-tag outfit has suffered through all year

    The Browns had 12 penalties for 188 yards. Thats not disciplined football. Thats on the coaches.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Back to the article. So who will speak up for the LB's that are put out of position?

    It has happened before......if basically the entire defense goes to Pettine and says that we cannot play in this system, and they want the DC fired.....he would be gone.

    What is Pettine going to do......cut the bunch of them?

    The "coup" would have to be led by the veterans: Haden, Dansby, Whitner, Williams, Starks, Kruger, etc.

    @the-gipper said:

    It has happened before......if basically the entire defense goes to Pettine and says that we cannot play in this system, and they want the DC fired.....he would be gone.

    What is Pettine going to do......cut the bunch of them?

    The "coup" would have to be led by the veterans: Haden, Dansby, Whitner, Williams, Starks, Kruger, etc.

    Dansby would be my guess for a guy who needs to speak up and who knows, maybe it has happened behind closed doors.

  • Pettine said tonight the defensive scheme they run has had a lot of past success, the current problem is execution.

    He also said he won't be taking the defense over because he'd be calling the same as O'Neil anyway.

  • Pettine said tonight the defensive scheme they run has had a lot of past success, the current problem is execution.

    He also said he won't be taking the defense over because he'd be calling the same as O'Neil anyway.

    @londonbrown said:

    Pettine said tonight the defensive scheme they run has had a lot of past success, the current problem is execution.

    He also said he won't be taking the defense over because he'd be calling the same as O'Neil anyway.

    Then he needs to fire himself as DC along with O'Neil.

  • Pettine said tonight the defensive scheme they run has had a lot of past success, the current problem is execution.

    He also said he won't be taking the defense over because he'd be calling the same as O'Neil anyway.

    @londonbrown said:

    He also said he won't be taking the defense over because he'd be calling the same as O'Neil anyway.

    His loyalty to O'Neil will be his ticket out of Cleveland.

  • Haslam said there won't be any changes over the bye. Did Rob Ryan ever work with the Browns in the past? Living off his Father's name has worn thin. He stinks! Go after Mike Singletary and Greg Sciano

    @opal312 said:

    Haslam said there won't be any changes over the bye. Did Rob Ryan ever work with the Browns in the past? Living off his Father's name has worn thin. He stinks! Go after Mike Singletary and Greg Sciano

    He was our DC when Mangini was the coach.
  • I believe that Pettine is his own worst enemy. The man HAS not, and all indications are, WILL not change. I also think he would stubbornly refuse to accept criticism from them.

    I've been saying for weeks that he has to go. Just DO NOT bring Rob Ryan back.

    Mike