Week 11 starting QB's
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Brock Osweiler
Matt Hasselbeck
Blaine Gabbert
Case Keenum
TJ Yates..................
In Manziel and McCown we actually have an ok QB situation compared to a number of teams...
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But....the Cowboys get Romo back. Whoopdeefuckingdoo.
And who is starting for the Tits? Is Mariota out or is he back.
And in Philly you probably have Mark Sanchez.
And have the Jets figured anything out?
There may be more teams with worse QB situations than you thought.
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I would say that every team that doesn't have a qb named Brady,Newton, Luck or Rodgers is looking for one.
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But....the Cowboys get Romo back. Whoopdeefuckingdoo.
And who is starting for the Tits? Is Mariota out or is he back.
And in Philly you probably have Mark Sanchez.
And have the Jets figured anything out?
There may be more teams with worse QB situations than you thought.
Don't forget the Bills.But....the Cowboys get Romo back. Whoopdeefuckingdoo.
And who is starting for the Tits? Is Mariota out or is he back.
And in Philly you probably have Mark Sanchez.
And have the Jets figured anything out?
There may be more teams with worse QB situations than you thought.
How about this scenario....Manziel plays well the rest of the year and the defense still manages to lose every game.
IF, the Browns have the number 1 pick in the draft and doesn't feel the need for a QB, just think of the trade offers that will come our way?
Yet again, if Farmer is still GM....never mind.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
Little johnny is only going to try to stay in the pocket like he was told for alittle longer he will be hurt the Browns need to face the fact that they fucked another first round up. Maybe this year they won't take a trade and get who there supposed too but in Cleveland fashion they will trade the pick for zeek and we will get another under preforming dick head how the hell is farmer still around how much do you think petine hates little johnny
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Little johnny is only going to try to stay in the pocket like he was told for alittle longer he will be hurt the Browns need to face the fact that they fucked another first round up. Maybe this year they won't take a trade and get who there supposed too but in Cleveland fashion they will trade the pick for zeek and we will get another under preforming dick head how the hell is farmer still around how much do you think petine hates little johnny
Little johnny is only going to try to stay in the pocket like he was told for alittle longer he will be hurt the Browns need to face the fact that they fucked another first round up. Maybe this year they won't take a trade and get who there supposed too but in Cleveland fashion they will trade the pick for zeek and we will get another under preforming dick head how the hell is farmer still around how much do you think petine hates little johnny
Did you voice text this or something?
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Don't forget the Bills.But....the Cowboys get Romo back. Whoopdeefuckingdoo.
And who is starting for the Tits? Is Mariota out or is he back.
And in Philly you probably have Mark Sanchez.
And have the Jets figured anything out?
There may be more teams with worse QB situations than you thought.
How about this scenario....Manziel plays well the rest of the year and the defense still manages to lose every game.
IF, the Browns have the number 1 pick in the draft and doesn't feel the need for a QB, just think of the trade offers that will come our way?
Yet again, if Farmer is still GM....never mind.
Don't forget the Bills.
How about this scenario....Manziel plays well the rest of the year and the defense still manages to lose every game.
IF, the Browns have the number 1 pick in the draft and doesn't feel the need for a QB, just think of the trade offers that will come our way?
Yet again, if Farmer is still GM....never mind.
This is what I'm thinking too. should Manziel play good enough- that high pick is going to be worth a ton.
If the Browns win some games with Manziel, Jerry Jones still wants Manziel. This was discussed today by Skip Payless. Anyway, we could get a QB, and Zeke Elliot if we play our cards right. GO JOHNNY
LOL, Jerry will trade us Romo and his first round pick for Johnny? I'm in the draft Elliot regardless mode.
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Little johnny is only going to try to stay in the pocket like he was told for alittle longer he will be hurt the Browns need to face the fact that they fucked another first round up. Maybe this year they won't take a trade and get who there supposed too but in Cleveland fashion they will trade the pick for zeek and we will get another under preforming dick head how the hell is farmer still around how much do you think petine hates little johnny
Little johnny is only going to try to stay in the pocket like he was told for alittle longer he will be hurt the Browns need to face the fact that they fucked another first round up. Maybe this year they won't take a trade and get who there supposed too but in Cleveland fashion they will trade the pick for zeek and we will get another under preforming dick head how the hell is farmer still around how much do you think petine hates little johnny
Looking for a bye week QB I have a choice of Derek Carr 21 touchdowns thru week 10 with 6 interceptions on the year, or Bortles who has 19 touchdowns, HOLY COW
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Don't forget the Bills.
How about this scenario....Manziel plays well the rest of the year and the defense still manages to lose every game.
IF, the Browns have the number 1 pick in the draft and doesn't feel the need for a QB, just think of the trade offers that will come our way?
Yet again, if Farmer is still GM....never mind.
This is what I'm thinking too. should Manziel play good enough- that high pick is going to be worth a ton.
If the Browns win some games with Manziel, Jerry Jones still wants Manziel. This was discussed today by Skip Payless. Anyway, we could get a QB, and Zeke Elliot if we play our cards right. GO JOHNNY
LOL, Jerry will trade us Romo and his first round pick for Johnny? I'm in the draft Elliot regardless mode.
This is what I'm thinking too. should Manziel play good enough- that high pick is going to be worth a ton.
I'm in the draft Elliot regardless mode.
If that does turn out to be the case we could make some real great drop down moves to get Elliott (he won't be top 10) and at least 1 excellent WR. Maybe even a pass rusher if we are not afraid to trade off some of what we gain. But then it is Farmer so no, won't happen. He hates giving offenses real weapons to help his 2 QB's.
Problem is JM may just Johnny Football us a couple of unexpected wins and screw up our draft position. LOL!
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QB injuries have been really prominent this year which is really bad for the way penalties are going. You think it's bad now? This situation I guarantee will only make QB's more protected.
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What kills me right now is that it won't be terribly easy to grade Johnny Manziel with the team as a whole playing so poorly. I mean, if we're giving up 30 points a game, I don't know many second year qb's that are going to pull out the win. It'd be one thing if we had viable red zone targets, or if we could actually RUN THE DAMN BALL INTO THE END ZONE, but to say that we're extremely deficient where it matters most would be the understatement of the decade.
Listen, it's a HUGE "if", but if Manziel keeps progressing and turns into the kind of playmaker that will be here for years, all of the sudden our QB position is completely set. We'd have the young, exciting QB, and then we'd have the proven veteran QB to come in for a few games if Johnny gets hurt. Most qb's don't make it through all 16 games, and a viable backup can literally save the season.
I completely understand that Manziel isn't there yet, so please don't bite my head off. Right now I'm hoping beyond hope that he's our guy for a couple of reasons. First and foremost, we're all COMPLETELY tired of hearing how many QB's we've started over the years. We as fans desperately want that one guy we can root for over the span of a decade or more. And secondly, how much FUN would it be to watch Johnny play every week "IF" he's playing better and better? That one "touchdown" run he had that was called back was completely insane. No other QB in the league could do that.
Something else not fair to Johnny is the complete and total lack of weapons he has to use in the game. God forbid he have one WR that can take a pass the distance. How many times have our guys been tackled at around the 5 or 10 yard line and have it lead to a FG or turnover on downs?
Johnny is going to have some bad games, I can't think of many second year QB's that don't. I so desperately want him to succeed, for many reasons. I also want our damn defense to actually keep us CLOSE so we can see what Johnny looks like under pressure. What's he going to do when we're down 4 points, we have the ball, and there's 2 minutes left? That's what I want to see, but we're not going to see it unless our defense somehow gets it together.
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What kills me right now is that it won't be terribly easy to grade Johnny Manziel with the team as a whole playing so poorly. I mean, if we're giving up 30 points a game, I don't know many second year qb's that are going to pull out the win. It'd be one thing if we had viable red zone targets, or if we could actually RUN THE DAMN BALL INTO THE END ZONE, but to say that we're extremely deficient where it matters most would be the understatement of the decade.
Listen, it's a HUGE "if", but if Manziel keeps progressing and turns into the kind of playmaker that will be here for years, all of the sudden our QB position is completely set. We'd have the young, exciting QB, and then we'd have the proven veteran QB to come in for a few games if Johnny gets hurt. Most qb's don't make it through all 16 games, and a viable backup can literally save the season.
I completely understand that Manziel isn't there yet, so please don't bite my head off. Right now I'm hoping beyond hope that he's our guy for a couple of reasons. First and foremost, we're all COMPLETELY tired of hearing how many QB's we've started over the years. We as fans desperately want that one guy we can root for over the span of a decade or more. And secondly, how much FUN would it be to watch Johnny play every week "IF" he's playing better and better? That one "touchdown" run he had that was called back was completely insane. No other QB in the league could do that.
Something else not fair to Johnny is the complete and total lack of weapons he has to use in the game. God forbid he have one WR that can take a pass the distance. How many times have our guys been tackled at around the 5 or 10 yard line and have it lead to a FG or turnover on downs?
Johnny is going to have some bad games, I can't think of many second year QB's that don't. I so desperately want him to succeed, for many reasons. I also want our damn defense to actually keep us CLOSE so we can see what Johnny looks like under pressure. What's he going to do when we're down 4 points, we have the ball, and there's 2 minutes left? That's what I want to see, but we're not going to see it unless our defense somehow gets it together.
What kills me right now is that it won't be terribly easy to grade Johnny Manziel with the team as a whole playing so poorly. I mean, if we're giving up 30 points a game, I don't know many second year qb's that are going to pull out the win. It'd be one thing if we had viable red zone targets, or if we could actually RUN THE DAMN BALL INTO THE END ZONE, but to say that we're extremely deficient where it matters most would be the understatement of the decade.
Listen, it's a HUGE "if", but if Manziel keeps progressing and turns into the kind of playmaker that will be here for years, all of the sudden our QB position is completely set. We'd have the young, exciting QB, and then we'd have the proven veteran QB to come in for a few games if Johnny gets hurt. Most qb's don't make it through all 16 games, and a viable backup can literally save the season.
I completely understand that Manziel isn't there yet, so please don't bite my head off. Right now I'm hoping beyond hope that he's our guy for a couple of reasons. First and foremost, we're all COMPLETELY tired of hearing how many QB's we've started over the years. We as fans desperately want that one guy we can root for over the span of a decade or more. And secondly, how much FUN would it be to watch Johnny play every week "IF" he's playing better and better? That one "touchdown" run he had that was called back was completely insane. No other QB in the league could do that.
Something else not fair to Johnny is the complete and total lack of weapons he has to use in the game. God forbid he have one WR that can take a pass the distance. How many times have our guys been tackled at around the 5 or 10 yard line and have it lead to a FG or turnover on downs?
Johnny is going to have some bad games, I can't think of many second year QB's that don't. I so desperately want him to succeed, for many reasons. I also want our damn defense to actually keep us CLOSE so we can see what Johnny looks like under pressure. What's he going to do when we're down 4 points, we have the ball, and there's 2 minutes left? That's what I want to see, but we're not going to see it unless our defense somehow gets it together.
I'd meet you halfway on that-I hear what you're saying, but there's also many ways to evaluate how a QB looks despite players around him. No matter how you slice it, Manziel played a pretty damn good game of football against the Steelers (and I know that's what you're saying so not disagreeing). He had a bad fumble and a desperation INT, but he objectively had at least one TD more on the board and really two. I really like the QB class coming out this year in the draft, but it would be so nice to see Manziel be the guy instead. If he plays like he did last week for the rest of the season that would be really encouraging to say the least.
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Little johnny is only going to try to stay in the pocket like he was told for alittle longer he will be hurt the Browns need to face the fact that they fucked another first round up. Maybe this year they won't take a trade and get who there supposed too but in Cleveland fashion they will trade the pick for zeek and we will get another under preforming dick head how the hell is farmer still around how much do you think petine hates little johnny
Little johnny is only going to try to stay in the pocket like he was told for alittle longer he will be hurt the Browns need to face the fact that they fucked another first round up. Maybe this year they won't take a trade and get who there supposed too but in Cleveland fashion they will trade the pick for zeek and we will get another under preforming dick head how the hell is farmer still around how much do you think petine hates little johnny
I was no fan of him coming out of college but he is now the starting QB for the Browns. Manziel has my full support. I hope he keeps putting together good performances.
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Don't forget the Bills.But....the Cowboys get Romo back. Whoopdeefuckingdoo.
And who is starting for the Tits? Is Mariota out or is he back.
And in Philly you probably have Mark Sanchez.
And have the Jets figured anything out?
There may be more teams with worse QB situations than you thought.
How about this scenario....Manziel plays well the rest of the year and the defense still manages to lose every game.
IF, the Browns have the number 1 pick in the draft and doesn't feel the need for a QB, just think of the trade offers that will come our way?
Yet again, if Farmer is still GM....never mind.
Don't forget the Bills.
How about this scenario....Manziel plays well the rest of the year and the defense still manages to lose every game.
IF, the Browns have the number 1 pick in the draft and doesn't feel the need for a QB, just think of the trade offers that will come our way?
Yet again, if Farmer is still GM....never mind.
Again, not sure Farmer is the problem......though his record isn't good. DC is the major problem on this team.....or HC if the DC is just running the HC's system.....which is a suck ass system.
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Don't forget the Bills.
How about this scenario....Manziel plays well the rest of the year and the defense still manages to lose every game.
IF, the Browns have the number 1 pick in the draft and doesn't feel the need for a QB, just think of the trade offers that will come our way?
Yet again, if Farmer is still GM....never mind.
Again, not sure Farmer is the problem......though his record isn't good. DC is the major problem on this team.....or HC if the DC is just running the HC's system.....which is a suck ass system.
Again, not sure Farmer is the problem......though his record isn't good. DC is the major problem on this team.....or HC if the DC is just running the HC's system.....which is a suck ass system.
Farmer has had 4 first round picks, none of them have been impact players and my confidence in him is shot.
Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney -
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Again, not sure Farmer is the problem......though his record isn't good. DC is the major problem on this team.....or HC if the DC is just running the HC's system.....which is a suck ass system.
Farmer has had 4 first round picks, none of them have been impact players and my confidence in him is shot.
Farmer has had 4 first round picks, none of them have been impact players and my confidence in him is shot.
I understand
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You can't judge Shelton and Erving already jeez
I didn't say they were a bust, but they just don't strike me as a standout player.You can't judge Shelton and Erving already jeez
Could those 2 become standout players...yes.
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What kills me right now is that it won't be terribly easy to grade Johnny Manziel with the team as a whole playing so poorly. I mean, if we're giving up 30 points a game, I don't know many second year qb's that are going to pull out the win. It'd be one thing if we had viable red zone targets, or if we could actually RUN THE DAMN BALL INTO THE END ZONE, but to say that we're extremely deficient where it matters most would be the understatement of the decade.
Listen, it's a HUGE "if", but if Manziel keeps progressing and turns into the kind of playmaker that will be here for years, all of the sudden our QB position is completely set. We'd have the young, exciting QB, and then we'd have the proven veteran QB to come in for a few games if Johnny gets hurt. Most qb's don't make it through all 16 games, and a viable backup can literally save the season.
I completely understand that Manziel isn't there yet, so please don't bite my head off. Right now I'm hoping beyond hope that he's our guy for a couple of reasons. First and foremost, we're all COMPLETELY tired of hearing how many QB's we've started over the years. We as fans desperately want that one guy we can root for over the span of a decade or more. And secondly, how much FUN would it be to watch Johnny play every week "IF" he's playing better and better? That one "touchdown" run he had that was called back was completely insane. No other QB in the league could do that.
Something else not fair to Johnny is the complete and total lack of weapons he has to use in the game. God forbid he have one WR that can take a pass the distance. How many times have our guys been tackled at around the 5 or 10 yard line and have it lead to a FG or turnover on downs?
Johnny is going to have some bad games, I can't think of many second year QB's that don't. I so desperately want him to succeed, for many reasons. I also want our damn defense to actually keep us CLOSE so we can see what Johnny looks like under pressure. What's he going to do when we're down 4 points, we have the ball, and there's 2 minutes left? That's what I want to see, but we're not going to see it unless our defense somehow gets it together.
I'd meet you halfway on that-I hear what you're saying, but there's also many ways to evaluate how a QB looks despite players around him. No matter how you slice it, Manziel played a pretty damn good game of football against the Steelers (and I know that's what you're saying so not disagreeing). He had a bad fumble and a desperation INT, but he objectively had at least one TD more on the board and really two. I really like the QB class coming out this year in the draft, but it would be so nice to see Manziel be the guy instead. If he plays like he did last week for the rest of the season that would be really encouraging to say the least.
I'd meet you halfway on that-I hear what you're saying, but there's also many ways to evaluate how a QB looks despite players around him. No matter how you slice it, Manziel played a pretty damn good game of football against the Steelers (and I know that's what you're saying so not disagreeing). He had a bad fumble and a desperation INT, but he objectively had at least one TD more on the board and really two. I really like the QB class coming out this year in the draft, but it would be so nice to see Manziel be the guy instead. If he plays like he did last week for the rest of the season that would be really encouraging to say the least.
So if you watched last night's game then you must have seen how much both Bortles and Mariotta struggled just to hit their wide open larger receivers in comparison to JM's performance. And one has started a year and a half and the other all this year. New QB's struggle. I just hope the Browns fan base can see that before once again sending a QB to QB oblivion. JM is starting to look like the player we want, but he will need time. Get him a running game and one more tall, fast receiver besides Josh Gordon and we may actually see a consistently decent offense.
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