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  • I know he won't or can't come out and say it directly. But if Gruden wants the job. BUH-BYE Pettine and Farmer

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."

  • precisely

  • gruden won a SB with tony dungees team, after picking his own talent, tampa steadily declined and chucky was fired

    Browns149B bbedwardB 2 Replies

  • Hell yeah let Gruden be HC...GM...he can pick the cheerleaders too!!!

    Just get him signed NOW!!!!! GO BROWNS

  • P paul warfield

    gruden won a SB with tony dungees team, after picking his own talent, tampa steadily declined and chucky was fired

    @paul-warfield said:

    gruden won a SB with tony dungees team, after picking his own talent, tampa steadily declined and chucky was fired

    Maybe he can win a SB with Farmers talllllllllllllllllllll

    I couldn't finish the sentence without aborting

    "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
  • P paul warfield

    gruden won a SB with tony dungees team, after picking his own talent, tampa steadily declined and chucky was fired

    @paul-warfield said:

    gruden won a SB with tony dungees team, after picking his own talent, tampa steadily declined and chucky was fired

    Let's get Tony Dungy then maybe in a few years we can fire him for gruden. Seems legit
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  • I have the opinion that it take a NAME to get player to play here and legitimize the organization. Some will say we had Holmgren didn't work out so getting an established name isn't guaranteed. But Holmgren was done. His heart and being is still in seattle.

    If that name is Gruden, Cowher, Dungy, get out the check book and get them here. This team needs to be legitimized. I think Haslam wants to do that. But it will require the right people here. No more no names and rookie GM"s or coaches.

  • I still have my "Chucky" doll.

    If Grude was pitching I didn't catch it. He sounded extremely negative about the defense. At one point he said: "I have no idea what type of defense their running"

    I would take Gruden but don't see it happening to Cleveland. They never have had the football Gods on their side. Not since Modell fired Paul Brown. The guy who invented football as we know it.

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!

  • Did not recognize the defense because he is not a Defensive Coach? Kiffin ran the Tampa 2 for Jon-boy just as he did for Tony.

    And Jon was never the GM at TB (or OAK for that matter). But he did manage to fight with McKay, the GM who traded for Jon, when he arrived in TB until he finally pushed him out in favor of his old OAK GM. But only after McKay helped land the vet offensive players that put TB on the path to their SB.

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  • Fuck Gruden. He's overrated. And he knows it

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.

  • Yeah fuck gruden. We've got...mike pettine!

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...

  • Besides drive the bus that Dungy gased up for him to the super bowl. What's he ever done?? Besides getting fired and leaving a franchise competing with the browns for leagues worst. Oh these fickle browns fans thinking lightening in a bottle gonna walk into Berea.

    "We are Americans. We don't quit doing something because it's wrong. We just keep doing the wrong thing till it turns out right." Browns maybe the most American Football team ever.
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  • cdl15C cdl15

    Besides drive the bus that Dungy gased up for him to the super bowl. What's he ever done?? Besides getting fired and leaving a franchise competing with the browns for leagues worst. Oh these fickle browns fans thinking lightening in a bottle gonna walk into Berea.

    @cdl15 said:

    Besides drive the bus that Dungy gased up for him to the super bowl. What's he ever done?? Besides getting fired and leaving a franchise competing with the browns for leagues worst. Oh these fickle browns fans thinking lightening in a bottle gonna walk into Berea.

    I guess something with a bottle don't count

  • cdl15C cdl15

    Besides drive the bus that Dungy gased up for him to the super bowl. What's he ever done?? Besides getting fired and leaving a franchise competing with the browns for leagues worst. Oh these fickle browns fans thinking lightening in a bottle gonna walk into Berea.

    @cdl15 said:

    Besides drive the bus that Dungy gased up for him to the super bowl. What's he ever done?? Besides getting fired and leaving a franchise competing with the browns for leagues worst. Oh these fickle browns fans thinking lightening in a bottle gonna walk into Berea.

    Totally. We've got mike pettine and the leagues most expensive defense what more do we need?

    Early man walked away as modern man took control. Their minds weren't all the same and to conquer was their goal. So He built his great empires and he slaughtered his own kind, and he died a confused man and killed himself in his own mind...

  • I don't know, I've always liked Gruden. Especially his QB camps. Qb's respect the man, he has a was of talking, like an eccentric uncle that keeps your attention. He bring passion and that is at least one thing that Pettine lacks. I would endorse Gruden as Head Coach, at least it'd be entertaining...

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  • This has probably been posted, but just in case:

    http://www.morningjournal.com/sports/20151130/jeff-schudel-espn-analyst-jon-gruden-could-be-good-fit-to-coach-the-cleveland-browns-next-year

    OldBrownsFanO 1 Reply

  • Gruden makes a reported $6.5 mill a year from ESPN, in what might be the best job on planet earth. If Gruden is the guy many people want, they better hope he still has that burning desire to coach, because I sure wouldn't leave that job he has, LOL.

    If Gruden is hired, who does he bring in as coordinators? Who would be the GM? The general feeling I'm getting is that Ray Farmer SHOULD be gone as well, or is he a guy that just needs more time? We're going to have a VERY high pick this year, which obviously means we're going to have a high second round pick (a pick that should/could start). Does Haslam really want this guy in charge of another draft?

    The first thing I would do if I was the new coach is I would reach out to Josh Gordon. I would publicly say that the Browns are committed to Gordon, and we have a plan for ensuring his compliance to league rules. I would do EVERYTHING in the world to get Josh Gordon back in a Browns uniform. We are a disaster in the red zone, we have too many tiny wr's, and we lack big play ability. We need Gordon as much as he needs us. Gordon is not Blackmon from Jacksonville. I truly believe (for some reason) that we're going to see Gordon play again, and he's going to play well for us.

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  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919

    This has probably been posted, but just in case:

    http://www.morningjournal.com/sports/20151130/jeff-schudel-espn-analyst-jon-gruden-could-be-good-fit-to-coach-the-cleveland-browns-next-year

    @jiggins7919 said:

    I am as frustrated as any other Browns fan right now but I am still of the belief Pettine should get another year to turn the team around. Even in the article the author states he also believes Pettine should get one more year:

    "I still believe Pettine deserves another year to turn the Browns around. But if Haslam blows up the front office and coaching staff again he should push hard for Gruden."

  • I completely see both sides of the argument. Obviously nobody is asking ME what I think in the Browns organization, LOL, but SOMETHING has to change...I just don't know what. I honestly do believe the team needs more talent, but from what I've seen in the NFL, GM's tend to outlast coaches. Perhaps I'm wrong. God forbid Pettine get a first round player that makes a damn impact.

  • jiggins7919J jiggins7919

    Gruden makes a reported $6.5 mill a year from ESPN, in what might be the best job on planet earth. If Gruden is the guy many people want, they better hope he still has that burning desire to coach, because I sure wouldn't leave that job he has, LOL.

    If Gruden is hired, who does he bring in as coordinators? Who would be the GM? The general feeling I'm getting is that Ray Farmer SHOULD be gone as well, or is he a guy that just needs more time? We're going to have a VERY high pick this year, which obviously means we're going to have a high second round pick (a pick that should/could start). Does Haslam really want this guy in charge of another draft?

    The first thing I would do if I was the new coach is I would reach out to Josh Gordon. I would publicly say that the Browns are committed to Gordon, and we have a plan for ensuring his compliance to league rules. I would do EVERYTHING in the world to get Josh Gordon back in a Browns uniform. We are a disaster in the red zone, we have too many tiny wr's, and we lack big play ability. We need Gordon as much as he needs us. Gordon is not Blackmon from Jacksonville. I truly believe (for some reason) that we're going to see Gordon play again, and he's going to play well for us.

    @jiggins7919 said:

    Gruden makes a reported $6.5 mill a year from ESPN, in what might be the best job on planet earth. If Gruden is the guy many people want, they better hope he still has that burning desire to coach, because I sure wouldn't leave that job he has, LOL.

    He might, maybe he just loves coaching that much. He could probably go back to broadcasting in 2 years when he gets fired anyway.

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