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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @roycerolls said:

    I made a mental note to check up on the numbers at the time, but promptly forgot to do so until one of Tour's comments about Shelton in another thread reminded me of the conversation.

    The bust label laid on Shelton based on his stats just felt out of place to me based upon what I thought I understood his role to be... a block eater.

    Good digging...

    @tour2ma said:

    Shelton.... a block eater.

    And it looks like he's eaten more than a few , too.....

  • Stats can be misleading, and I'll give a quick example. Say the stats for a RB are 11-58 rushing and 7-56-1TD receiving........ Looks like a very good day, and fans would wonder why he didn't get the ball more.

    What the stats don't show is that the team was down 31-9 with 8:00 to go in the 4th, and the opposing team went into a soft shell prevent defense, with several 2nd teamers on the field, while the RB's losing team went into a hurry up, no huddle offense, going for it on 4th down twice - one time in their own territory..

    In that 8 minutes of "fantasy stats garbage time", the RB caught 6 dump off passes for 50yds, with one of them being a TD to make the score 31-15. He also ripped off a 29yd run on a draw play on 3rd and 17. .........So looking at the stats before garbage time, the RB was 10-29 and 1-6....... Hardly a very good day.

    So all of that said, you may have derived that I'm not a "stats guy", and you'd be correct - minus the score board stat that is. I have watched Danny all year, and there is no way he has had the impact on our defense as Haloti did for his defense....... Sorry, he just hasn't. Hopefully this offseason he gets himself into a true, professional athlete physical shape, and if he does, that will certainly help and may be what he needs to turn into the monster we all hoped he would be.

    I wouldn't call Danny a bust yet, but he hasn't had the type of season that I hoped he would when the Browns wrote his name down on the card...... and for the record, Danny was THE ONLY NAME that I agreed with, and would've written down myself if I were GM, of the four 1st round picks that we have had the last two years. I really like Danny the person too.

    👍

  • I liked the Shelton pick but to this point think he's under performed. Phil Taylor was better in his rookie campaign. He's not a bust but needs to improve quite a bit

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  • Shelton is a pig. Way out of shape and getting beaten all the time.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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  • B BaconHound

    I liked the Shelton pick but to this point think he's under performed. Phil Taylor was better in his rookie campaign. He's not a bust but needs to improve quite a bit

    @baconhound said:

    I liked the Shelton pick but to this point think he's under performed. Phil Taylor was better in his rookie campaign. He's not a bust but needs to improve quite a bit

    Agree about Big Phil, but that was then...

    Danny will never have the range Phil once did, but may remain tougher to move for a long time.

    Regardless, it was nice to see Danny blow up that run early today.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @baconhound said:

    I liked the Shelton pick but to this point think he's under performed. Phil Taylor was better in his rookie campaign. He's not a bust but needs to improve quite a bit

    Agree about Big Phil, but that was then...

    Danny will never have the range Phil once did, but may remain tougher to move for a long time.

    Regardless, it was nice to see Danny blow up that run early today.

    @tour2ma said:

    Agree about Big Phil, but that was then...

    Danny will never have the range Phil once did, but may remain tougher to move for a long time.

    Regardless, it was nice to see Danny blow up that run early today.

    And toss the back to the ground like a rag doll

  • B BaconHound

    I liked the Shelton pick but to this point think he's under performed. Phil Taylor was better in his rookie campaign. He's not a bust but needs to improve quite a bit

    @baconhound said:

    I liked the Shelton pick but to this point think he's under performed. Phil Taylor was better in his rookie campaign. He's not a bust but needs to improve quite a bit

    I wanted Shelton as the Browns first pick, but I think he needs some additional strength conditioning. He's certainly got the motor to be successful.

    @tour2ma said:

    Regardless, it was nice to see Danny blow up that run early today.

    That was awesome!
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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @baconhound said:

    I liked the Shelton pick but to this point think he's under performed. Phil Taylor was better in his rookie campaign. He's not a bust but needs to improve quite a bit

    Agree about Big Phil, but that was then...

    Danny will never have the range Phil once did, but may remain tougher to move for a long time.

    Regardless, it was nice to see Danny blow up that run early today.

    @tour2ma said:

    Agree about Big Phil, but that was then...

    Danny will never have the range Phil once did, but may remain tougher to move for a long time.

    Regardless, it was nice to see Danny blow up that run early today.

    That was a heck of a play, and one that I expected to see multiple times per game all season long. I'm a little bothered that it took playing back home in Washington to bring it out, but it was good to see nonetheless.

  • Maybe we shouldn't call him a bust yet.

    Get him the right strength and conditioning program through camp next year and I expect a much better sophomore season.

    👍

  • I like Shelton.

  • Shelton for prez

  • That was a pretty impressive tackle for loss he had at the goal line. We got them to 3rd down, but of course we gave up a wide open touchdown pass. Not that it really would've mattered, but we have to be the easiest team to score on in the red zone.

  • Again another game with flashes and then some rookie moments. Just keep working the finer things of the position, keep that motor running and continue working with NFL S&C coaches while working on maintaining a healthy weight.

  • Shelton will be fine. A good player who needs to refine his technique after being slightly reliant on superior strength at the college level. We have bigger issues than him. Much like we have bigger issues that QB, or OL, at least talent-wise.

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  • DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan

    Shelton is a pig. Way out of shape and getting beaten all the time.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    Shelton is a pig. Way out of shape and getting beaten all the time.

    I think he could be a beast with the loss of just a few pound....and by a few I mean like 35-40.

  • Come on, he can collapse most any pocket, he has a sky high motor,

    and he can be seen chasing down wr's cutting across field....

    and, go back and look - he sent a guy to the ground, and leaped through

    the air over him like superman and made the tackle for loss.

    Shelton is one of the last players to bitch about.

  • Shelton will get better with experience. So will Orchard, Cooper, Gaines and Erving. I heard Erving will take over for Greco. Since we can't get the games I just watch the few televised nationally. I was wondering if Erving will end up as center next year. And what is the status on the cornerback we drafted. His name is too hard to remember but he hasn't played dur to an injury in college.

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  • gftChrisG gftChris

    Shelton will be fine. A good player who needs to refine his technique after being slightly reliant on superior strength at the college level. We have bigger issues than him. Much like we have bigger issues that QB, or OL, at least talent-wise.

    @gftchris said:

    Shelton will be fine. A good player who needs to refine his technique after being slightly reliant on superior strength at the college level. We have bigger issues than him. Much like we have bigger issues that QB, or OL, at least talent-wise.

    That's a good point. He probably didn't have to rely as much on technique in college due to being so powerful, and that crap doesn't generally work in the NFL. As a fan, it's difficult to temper one's expectations when your team takes a player so high in the draft. I know I was hoping for so much more. A few sacks, some stuffs on 4th down, and so on. That's not realistic for a rookie NT, and not every DT is going to be Aaron Donald (lord I wish we had him). Big Dan will be ok. I don't think he'll ever be Haloti Ngata, but the comparisons exist for obvious reasons. Ngata was superhuman.

  • As has been said before here, Ngata had similar rookie numbers. Not saying he *will* be Ngata, but to he say he definitely won't might be premature. When blocked one on one, he seems to move his guy back more often than not. I'd like to see him be able to get past the OL with something other than strength, but he's doing OK for now.

    Better technique, all the cliches about lower pad level etc. will improve his consistency. Then you'll likely see him stuffing runs in the backfield a lot more.

  • gftChrisG gftChris

    As has been said before here, Ngata had similar rookie numbers. Not saying he *will* be Ngata, but to he say he definitely won't might be premature. When blocked one on one, he seems to move his guy back more often than not. I'd like to see him be able to get past the OL with something other than strength, but he's doing OK for now.

    Better technique, all the cliches about lower pad level etc. will improve his consistency. Then you'll likely see him stuffing runs in the backfield a lot more.

    @gftchris said:

    As has been said before here, Ngata had similar rookie numbers. Not saying he *will* be Ngata, but to he say he definitely won't might be premature. When blocked one on one, he seems to move his guy back more often than not. I'd like to see him be able to get past the OL with something other than strength, but he's doing OK for now.

    Better technique, all the cliches about lower pad level etc. will improve his consistency. Then you'll likely see him stuffing runs in the backfield a lot more.

    Yep, I actually remember you listing Ngata's numbers, and it made me feel a lot better. I just feel like asking a guy to live up to Ngata's potential is a stretch. Not saying it's impossible, but they are built very differently. Ngata looks like a physical freak. Probably 6'4 or taller, and built like Mr. Universe. Shelton has the more...uh...rounder physique. lol. But...I still feel like Shelton has an excellent chance to be a solid cog for us.

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