Farmer and Pettine both fired. Official
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My Bottom Line: I fire Farmer...
As pointed out above ultimately the talent decisions are his. I hated his weird, mid-year presser and all of its movie references. I hated his portrayal of every personnel decision being mutually agreed by all. That's not owning his job... his responsibility. Consensus building is not what earns him his paycheck.
This^^^^ Well said T. If Jimmy knows anything about owning a football organization this "We" should put Farmers nails in his own coffin. Farmer now would look more of a fool to throw Jimmy in "We" for text gate after owning up to it. But?
This^^^^ Well said T. If Jimmy knows anything about owning a football organization this "We" should put Farmers nails in his own coffin. Farmer now would look more of a fool to throw Jimmy in "We" for text gate after owning up to it. But?
Nothing special about a football organization in this case, gum... same in business... where I continue to believe/hold-out hope that Jimmah knows near as much as a man of his position should know.
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Actually pet should get some blame for that. I mean he brought in his buddy, right? He can't sit down with him and get the shit together?
WSS
Yep he is accountable for his staff selections - but if he recognizes there's a problem and fixes it it's not the worst thing in the world.
Yep he is accountable for his staff selections - but if he recognizes there's a problem and fixes it it's not the worst thing in the world.
My point is that he's a defensive coordinator as well and should be able to call on your side and say hey let's do this or let's do that. Just firing the guy isn't that tough. Putting the defense back on track is.
WSS
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Take your guess whose fired pettine farmer or both? Also predict when firing will happen!
MY prediction both are fired by 6 pm sunday night
Take your guess whose fired pettine farmer or both? Also predict when firing will happen!
MY prediction both are fired by 6 pm sunday night
Merged yours with the one that was already there.
Certainly sounds like they're both gone...
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/01/browns_mike_pettine_and_ray_fa.html
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I think it should be asked different. Which was more disappointing, offense or defense?
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Cleveland.com reporting everyone to be fired Sunday night
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/01/browns_mike_pettine_and_ray_fa.html#incart_2box
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
From PFT (based on a report from MKC). . .
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/02/report-browns-will-fire-coach-gm/
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http://thescore.com/nfl.news/926358
Well, its pretty much over. Now on to who will be the new guys in town.
Any guesses?
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Hit the reset every two years. All the teams that continuously make the playoffs do that ?
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Cleveland.com reporting everyone to be fired Sunday night
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/01/browns_mike_pettine_and_ray_fa.html#incart_2box
Cleveland.com reporting everyone to be fired Sunday night
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/01/browns_mike_pettine_and_ray_fa.html#incart_2box
Who needs Black Monday when we have Sunken Sunday - on and off the field.
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Pettine and the coaches are gone. The new regime should go back to the 4-3 defense and start letting players develop instead of letting them walk.
The new regime better draft impact players- not projects! If Farmer stays I will tweet him every time Khalil Mack gets another sack he has 15 thru 15 games!
Draft Joey Bosa, Zeke Elliot and two wide receivers! Then draft Cardale Jones. I also heard it "through the Grapevine" that Peyton Manning will be coming along with Gase. So let Manning be a role model for Jones!
Whoever they hire must have vision for the present as well as the future. Pettine had tunnel vision and was a stubborn ass!
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The Browns plan to move on from general manager Ray Farmer and head coach Mike Pettine after Sunday’s season finale, a Cleveland.com report Saturday said.
The report by Mary Kay Cabot quoted sources as saying team owner Jimmy Haslam is inclined to “blow things up” and has already begun seeking out replacements. Though this is the first sourced report of such moves happening — Cabot wrote that interviews with potential replacements could begin as soon as Sunday night — neither move would be a surprise.
The Browns went 7-9 last year in Pettine’s first season but lost their final five games. They’re 3-12 headed into Sunday’s game vs. the Steelers and have won once since October.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/01/02/report-browns-will-fire-coach-gm/
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Doesn't this annual ritual give you a headache? Mary Kay also said that Adam Gase and Peyton Manning might be coming to town.
I can't see Manning a Brown. Not after his stellar career. Can you imagine a forty year old quarterback wanting to start anew with another team? I can't! Unless Mary Kay means as a coach or something. How about Manning as " Football Guru" in charge of moral and confident to Haslam!
Time will tell
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