Farmer Gone?
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All of the players that were let go and playing well elsewhere were NOT Farmer's picks.
TJ Ward, Jabal Sheard, Buster Skrine, Ahtyba Rubin were all brought in by another regime.
If Farmer was so fucking good....why were they let go?
VesnaKociper said:
He traded away guys that DIDN'T PLAY FOR SHIT IN CLEVELAND, and then became contributors elsewhere?
You guys need to, but you are too dumb to ask yourselves, why do Browns picks continue to fail, over and over and over. It isn't the picks, dude. I heard you guys cussing Skrine over and over and over, and he sure is doing a lot better away from Cleveland. And Johnny M was not Farmers pick, he was Haslams. You know that and so does everyone else.
Don't be an ignoramus.
FWIW I wasn't cussing out Skrine- and wasn't cussing out EVERY ONE OF THE FOLLOWING either. In fact, I was pissed they were allowed to walk. We had the most cap room in the NFL, but Farmer thought they were "too expensive" to keep around. They were playing better than virtually every one currently on our roster- so don't give me that crap. Ray the Farmer downgraded with each of those moves, and it shows.
All of the players that were let go and playing well elsewhere were NOT Farmer's picks.
TJ Ward, Jabal Sheard, Buster Skrine, Ahtyba Rubin were all brought in by another regime.
If Farmer was so fucking good....why were they let go?
THAT'S apparently the problem Tom. Farmer wouldn't know talent if it walked up to him and bit him in the ass. Every one of those guys is contributing to a playoff level team. Rubin is starting for the f**king Seahawks (one of the best in the league) defenses, but dumb ass Farmer thought he wasn't good enough to play for the Browns. Yeah, I suppose it's Pettine's fault Farmer brought in Dwayne Bowe, who has lost so many steps, I'd put money the long since retired Hanford Dixon could cover him. I suppose Pettine is such a bad coach & so stupid, the #8 pick in the draft (Gilbert) is so lousy (and Farmer never bothered to work him out BTW) a special teams player BAD-emosi beat him out for playing time. Farmer was so enamored of Vince Mayle in the fourth round- (OH YEAH, every draftnick and talking head said at the time it was a bad pick, and huge reach) he got immediately cut, and is currently out of football.
I'd suggest you go back to doing something you're good at- like playing the accordion. Leave the talent evaluation to those of us who actually keep an eye on such things.
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All of the players that were let go and playing well elsewhere were NOT Farmer's picks.
TJ Ward, Jabal Sheard, Buster Skrine, Ahtyba Rubin were all brought in by another regime.
If Farmer was so fucking good....why were they let go?
Maybe Pettine expressed his belief to Farmer that's none of these guys were good enough to play in his system.All of the players that were let go and playing well elsewhere were NOT Farmer's picks.
TJ Ward, Jabal Sheard, Buster Skrine, Ahtyba Rubin were all brought in by another regime.
If Farmer was so fucking good....why were they let go?
"You see the Rams are still thinking that they are playing Tony Dorsett" -Jim Brown 1978 -
Maybe Pettine expressed his belief to Farmer that's none of these guys were good enough to play in his system.All of the players that were let go and playing well elsewhere were NOT Farmer's picks.
TJ Ward, Jabal Sheard, Buster Skrine, Ahtyba Rubin were all brought in by another regime.
If Farmer was so fucking good....why were they let go?
So let me see if I got this straight.Maybe Pettine expressed his belief to Farmer that's none of these guys were good enough to play in his system.
Farmer consulted with Pettine and drafted the guys that Pettine asked for?
The guys that could actually play ball, and were subsequently cut were let go because Pettine told Farmer they sucked?
If I'm the owner, and this is how things are playing out in the personnel dept in Berea I would have to ask 1 question.
What are we paying Farmer to do? Obviously Pettne is doing everything.
But I seriously doubt that's what's happening on Lou Groza Blvd...Farmer sucks.
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Maybe Pettine expressed his belief to Farmer that's none of these guys were good enough to play in his system.All of the players that were let go and playing well elsewhere were NOT Farmer's picks.
TJ Ward, Jabal Sheard, Buster Skrine, Ahtyba Rubin were all brought in by another regime.
If Farmer was so fucking good....why were they let go?
Maybe Pettine expressed his belief to Farmer that's none of these guys were good enough to play in his system.
I think I made it pretty clear I don't hold Pettine blameless for the current mess- but the best coaches adjust their scheme to maximize the talent of the players they have. Seriously- if it was all about scheme, you'd about have to completely churn the roster to get "your" guys to fit "your" system.
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If Farmer is gone so is Pettine & Co
If Farmer is gone so is Pettine & Co
Maybe...maybe not.
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If Farmer is gone so is Pettine & Co
Maybe...maybe not.
Maybe...maybe not.
It is standard protocol for a new GM to bring in their coach. Only way Farmer goes and Pettine stays is if Haslam becomes Cleveland's Jerry Jones.
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Maybe...maybe not.
It is standard protocol for a new GM to bring in their coach. Only way Farmer goes and Pettine stays is if Haslam becomes Cleveland's Jerry Jones.
Good theory, but Pet was HC before Farmer was GM.It is standard protocol for a new GM to bring in their coach. Only way Farmer goes and Pettine stays is if Haslam becomes Cleveland's Jerry Jones.
Also, Pet doesn't answer to the GM he answers to Jimmah.
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Good theory, but Pet was HC before Farmer was GM.It is standard protocol for a new GM to bring in their coach. Only way Farmer goes and Pettine stays is if Haslam becomes Cleveland's Jerry Jones.
Also, Pet doesn't answer to the GM he answers to Jimmah.
Good theory, but Pet was HC before Farmer was GM.
Also, Pet doesn't answer to the GM he answers to Jimmah.
Farmer already in the building when Pettine was hired. I hope you remember the Holmgren & Mangini
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Good theory, but Pet was HC before Farmer was GM.
Also, Pet doesn't answer to the GM he answers to Jimmah.
Farmer already in the building when Pettine was hired. I hope you remember the Holmgren & Mangini
Farmer was an assistant GM under the Lombardi/Banner regime.Farmer already in the building when Pettine was hired. I hope you remember the Holmgren & Mangini
Remember, it was Jimmah who hired Pet...not Farmer.
That's why I'm of the mindset that if Farmer gets canned, it doesn't necessarily mean Pettine gets his walking papers.
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