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A positive article on Sashi Brown

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  • L LondonBrown wrote on
    #1

    I'm posting from a mobile so if someone wants to copy and paste the article content in the link go ahead

    http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/cleveland-browns-sashi-brown-control-of-personnel-jimmy-haslem-mike-pettine-ray-farmer-010416

  • bbedwardB bbedward wrote on
    #2

    I actually like Sashi, at least what I know about him.

    10 years in-the-NFL experience and apparently a really smart dude who people seem to know around the NFL (harvard law graduate, etc.) The guy who can make all the numbers work in the cap and such, it's definitely not a bad move.

    Giving him any personnel control may not make as much sense to me, but it's hard to tell how that whole process will work at this point. Combining quality football guys with a guy who's good at football analytics sounds good in theory.

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  • D BoneD D Bone wrote on
    #3

    I'd prefer Watson

    The GipperT Tour2maT 2 Replies
  • gftChrisG gftChris wrote on
    #4

    It *could* work if he's just there as like a project manager - gather information from everyone, including all scouts, scoutmaster general, head coach, and generate the consensus, without the Farmer/Pettine ego wrestling that got in the way this year.

    Joe Banner was relatively successful in that role until he tried to get too involved in personnel decisions.

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on
    #5

    Within that article there was this little gem on 3 possible HC's.

    http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/cleveland-browns-next-head-coach-3-candidates-010316

  • Z Zombo wrote on
    #6

    It's so easy to pile on the Cleveland Browns right now. Heck, I'll admit I did it myself Sunday night when one of their beat writers pointed out they'd now fired three general managers and three coaches (not to mention president Joe Banner) in only three years.




    So naturally, when owner Jimmy Haslam announced he was promoting Sashi Brown to executive Vice President of football operations, it was quickly dismissed by many as more Browns-being-Browns behavior.




    A lawyer as de facto GM? Please. It'll be only two years before the Browns fire a guy named Brown and start doing this whole dance again, right?




    Maybe not. This move might actually wind up being the first wise one Haslam has made.





    Over the past few years, Brown's name is the one that's drawn praise when people around the league have spoken about Cleveland. In a front office where egos clashed, he was noted as the one who seemed to have the franchise's best interests in mind.




    A member of Sports Business Journal's "Forty Under 40" list last year, Brown is a graduate of Harvard Law School and has served as the team's general counsel after playing a similar role for the Jacksonville Jaguars.




    But to say Brown is going right from being the team's lawyer to its GM would be a mischaracterization on both ends. He's had more responsibilities in Cleveland than he did in Jacksonville, such as negotiating the team's contracts. Several veteran agents have told FOX Sports dealings with Brown were much more professional than negotiations under previous regimes.




    "He is very capable (of handling his new role)," one agent texted on Monday morning.




    It's not as if Brown is the first salary-cap guy to take over football operations. It's just that his taking over minutes after Ray Farmer and Mike Pettine were fired and before the coaching search has even begun, framed by the Browns' failures in recent years, makes this move an easy one to bash.




    Plus, when Haslam announced Brown would have control over the team's roster, it read for many as if he'd be the one selecting the players while trying to pass himself off as a longtime personnel guy who cut his teeth on the road for years.




    That's not the case, Browns sources say. They say he has no ego and they have full confidence Brown understands his role and his limitations. Most importantly, they say Brown knows how critical the hiring of the next head of personnel will be.





    "If you look at the team's that are successful, they're very good at talent acquisition," Haslam said Sunday night. "That's something we have to get right, and we think this setup with somebody with a background in systems, processes, analytics ... married up with a football person who is very good at talent evaluation will hopefully put us in a position to win a lot more games than we have in the past."




    There's more to running football operations than picking the players. Way more. It's about aligning an organization and making sure the coach, the head of personnel, the scouts and everyone are making joint decisions.




    In other words, it's about giving "Browns-being-Browns" a new meaning. Don't be surprised if it's the guy named Brown who gets that done.


  • U Unsympathetic wrote on
    #7

    You could do a lot worse than Josh McDaniels

    "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
  • letsgojacketsL letsgojackets wrote on
    #8

    Anybody else praying....please don't be shitty, please don't be shitty. please don't be shitty.

  • bbedwardB bbedward wrote on
    #9

    We will likely be waiting until at least the AFC championship game before we can talk to McDaniels.

  • DeputyDawgD DeputyDawg wrote on
    #10

    Excellent article and very reassuring, thanks for posting. Looking forward to now seeing some good appointments elsewhere, and that they then work well together.

    Loyaultie me Lie. If I hadn't seen such riches I could live with being poor!
  • C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #11

    stop it. We do this every year. Hey this new cunt is really smart, he seems like he's got some real gumption!! Every time. They all turn out to be cunts. The unfounded optimism some browns fans exhibit with each successive regime change....it just flummoxes me. When has the "just throw it at the wall and see if it sticks" approach worked?

    This hire isn't some "steal", like we found some little gem or some bullshit like that. What this is..is.....nobody else wants the job.

    bbedwardB jrb12711J 2 Replies
  • C Clevfan4life

    stop it. We do this every year. Hey this new cunt is really smart, he seems like he's got some real gumption!! Every time. They all turn out to be cunts. The unfounded optimism some browns fans exhibit with each successive regime change....it just flummoxes me. When has the "just throw it at the wall and see if it sticks" approach worked?

    This hire isn't some "steal", like we found some little gem or some bullshit like that. What this is..is.....nobody else wants the job.

    bbedwardB bbedward wrote on
    #12

    @clevfan4life said:

    stop it. We do this every year. Hey this new cunt is really smart, he seems like he's got some real gumption!! Every time. They all turn out to be cunts. The unfounded optimism some browns fans exhibit with each successive regime change....it just flummoxes me. When has the "just throw it at the wall and see if it sticks" approach worked?

    This hire isn't some "steal", like we found some little gem or some bullshit like that. What this is..is.....nobody else wants the job.

    What else are we supposed to do?

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  • LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on
    #13

    I just hope Sashi Brown and the others involved in the process of hiring a HC and GM get it right. I am cynical as all hell but a guy can hope.

  • W Why wrote on
    #14

    I too fully expect another steaming pile of dysfunctional horse shit for two seasons . . . Then repeat cycle

  • D BoneD D Bone

    I'd prefer Watson

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on
    #15

    @d-bone said:

    I'd prefer Watson

    John

    or Emma?

    D BoneD 1 Reply
  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on
    #16

    So Sashi has been negotiating contracts?

    Can he explain why we didn't bother to resign Buster or Sheard? Especially the latter seeing as how we'd be in need of a pass rusher of his mold soon.

  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    So Sashi has been negotiating contracts?

    Can he explain why we didn't bother to resign Buster or Sheard? Especially the latter seeing as how we'd be in need of a pass rusher of his mold soon.

    gftChrisG gftChris wrote on
    #17

    @tiamat63 said:

    So Sashi has been negotiating contracts?

    Can he explain why we didn't bother to resign Buster or Sheard? Especially the latter seeing as how we'd be in need of a pass rusher of his mold soon.

    The players chosen fall on the GM (rayray), the actual contract negotiations are Brown.

  • C Clevfan4life

    stop it. We do this every year. Hey this new cunt is really smart, he seems like he's got some real gumption!! Every time. They all turn out to be cunts. The unfounded optimism some browns fans exhibit with each successive regime change....it just flummoxes me. When has the "just throw it at the wall and see if it sticks" approach worked?

    This hire isn't some "steal", like we found some little gem or some bullshit like that. What this is..is.....nobody else wants the job.

    jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on
    #18

    @clevfan4life said:

    stop it. We do this every year. Hey this new cunt is really smart, he seems like he's got some real gumption!! Every time. They all turn out to be cunts. The unfounded optimism some browns fans exhibit with each successive regime change....it just flummoxes me. When has the "just throw it at the wall and see if it sticks" approach worked?

    This hire isn't some "steal", like we found some little gem or some bullshit like that. What this is..is.....nobody else wants the job.

    I really don't think anyone considers this a steal though? No one is bouncing off the walls but this article at least explains the guy wasn't just some suit reading legal documents. Hell, most people on here should admit including me they didn't even know this guy was in the FO yet alone his talent level.

    It's certainly a bit odd but just because a guy has final roster decisions doesn't mean he's a crazy bastard who will not listen to people. How the rest of the staff rounds out will go a long way to how I feel.

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  • D BoneD D Bone

    I'd prefer Watson

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on
    #19

    @d-bone said:

    I'd prefer Watson

    lol.. and you'd only need him part time...

    @tiamat63 said:

    So Sashi has been negotiating contracts?

    Can he explain why we didn't bother to resign Buster or Sheard? Especially the latter seeing as how we'd be in need of a pass rusher of his mold soon.

    Hey he landed Bowe didn't he? 😉

    Just bothers me when agents start praising our negotiator...

    But back to his new role... How exactly is he going to break ties between 2 football guys?

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
  • bbedwardB bbedward

    @clevfan4life said:

    stop it. We do this every year. Hey this new cunt is really smart, he seems like he's got some real gumption!! Every time. They all turn out to be cunts. The unfounded optimism some browns fans exhibit with each successive regime change....it just flummoxes me. When has the "just throw it at the wall and see if it sticks" approach worked?

    This hire isn't some "steal", like we found some little gem or some bullshit like that. What this is..is.....nobody else wants the job.

    What else are we supposed to do?

    C Clevfan4life wrote on
    #20

    @bbedward said:

    What else are we supposed to do?

    That's next level, I hadn't thought that far.

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