Browns Kaepernick Rumors
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What were these surgeries that CK underwent? How serious...and to what body parts?
Lots of talk in Frisco that he pussied out last year. Maybe he had an addadicktome surgery too. Whether the Browns get him or not, I don't see the other 2 former picked QBs staying around long.
Lots of talk in Frisco that he pussied out last year. Maybe he had an addadicktome surgery too. Whether the Browns get him or not, I don't see the other 2 former picked QBs staying around long.
Per Hoorta it looks like he did have some actual, fairly serious issues. Enough to give one pause.
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For my own childish reason, I hope he ends up in Dallas. Then he can be known as, Colon Cowboy!
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It's easy keep McCown and Davis there is nothing better out there to get.
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Don't forget about shaw
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For my own childish reason, I hope he ends up in Dallas. Then he can be known as, Colon Cowboy!
For my own childish reason, I hope he ends up in Dallas. Then he can be known as, Colon Cowboy!
I like the Colon cowboy better....Butt he also could be called the Browns Colon!:-)
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Ok.
Kaepernick is a read option qb. If you want a read option offense he's a good one otherwise he's average at best but can only understand basic pass routes from the wr's. He did well learning when Harbaugh was the HC and the reason is because of the read option plus they could run the ball as well then.
One Post From the Truth said:
Ok.
Kaepernick is a read option qb. If you want a read option offense he's a good one otherwise he's average at best but can only understand basic pass routes from the wr's. He did well learning when Harbaugh was the HC and the reason is because of the read option plus they could run the ball as well then.
This. Kap can't run a pro style offense. Such a waste of our resources and time unless we want to totally convert to a read option type of offense... which was big in 2012 but these days DC's have taken the bite out of that system in a big way. Gimmicky offenses never have longevity. Kaepernick is one stop away from being a journeyman back up and I'm really not interested in us being his last starting gig that he face plants in. Kap can fuck right off, he's not the solution for us.
He needs to be on a team like the Broncos where he can be a game manager and has plenty of talent to minimize his role and bail him out. If he comes to Cleveland he has to be able be "the guy" and it's not going to end well for him.
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Shaw and Davis are the other qbs picked by farmer. I think they might be gone by tc. Package Davis and Blowme in a deal for draft picks
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Ok.
Kaepernick is a read option qb. If you want a read option offense he's a good one otherwise he's average at best but can only understand basic pass routes from the wr's. He did well learning when Harbaugh was the HC and the reason is because of the read option plus they could run the ball as well then.
One Post From the Truth said:
Kaepernick is a read option qb. If you want a read option offense he's a good one otherwise he's average at best but can only understand basic pass routes from the wr's. He did well learning when Harbaugh was the HC and the reason is because of the read option plus they could run the ball as well then.
I seem to remember Dalton running some read option in Cinci last season...
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Just more ammunition to steer clear from this guy....
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000645131/article/does-colin-kaepernick-deserve-another-chance
From the article:
"The secret was out on how to stop Kaepernick. He was often forced to roll to his left and didn't respond well. Opposing defenses saw many of the 49ers' bootlegs coming. Kaepernick started eight games in 2015; the team scored seven points or less in four of them, with only a field goal in two of those contests. The 49ers had more punts than first downs in his game against Seattle. It wasn't modern football." Sort of sounds like (in a different way) when opposing DCs figured out Derek Anderson.
BTW, the Broncos apparently think Kap is only worth a 4th round pick, around 70 slots LOWER than what the Browns are (stupidly) willing to give up for a reclamation project. MHO is the Broncs have Kap valued correctly.
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Kap should be worth far more to the Broncos than us. They have a lot of talent in place already on both sides of the ball, they have a reliable running game with CJ Anderson back, they have a dominant defense, they can let Kap be their game manager and probably have some success with him in a minimized role. We don't have shit for him here to make his life easier, he won't even have a game to manage here. There just isn't enough talent for him to have success so why even bother?
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Again it's shat sports ...
Just saying
WSS
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Again it's shat sports ...
Just saying
WSS
Again it's shat sports ...
Well their proofreading certainly is shat....
The Browns are still searching for a franchise QB, but are only willing to five up a third-round pick for Kaepernick...
Have to say that I do dread every time this thread pops up boldfaced...
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Now that I see what our FO is doing - a full reset with younger players, I no longer am on the Kaepernick train...... It no longer makes any sense. Barring injury, Josh McCown will play equally as well as Kap, so there is absolutely no reason to throw a 3rd/4th round pick away.
If Hue truly loves a QB, then we'll take him early in round 1, if he doesn't love a particular QB, then we'll go BPA and grab a QB later on. We need a boat load of young talent infused on this team, and this draft is critical on how long it takes to get competitive.
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Interesting last paragraph in that article on chatsports:
"Browns met with Connor Cook at Pro Day
Cleveland is expected to take a quarterback - likely North Dakota State's Carson Wentz - with the No. 2 overall pick in the NFL Draft, but it doesn't look like that will stop them from possibly drafting another QB later in the draft. One guy they seem to have their eye on is Michigan State's Connor Cook, who they met with after his Pro Day with the Spartans. He is projected to be a second round pick." -
Interesting last paragraph in that article on chatsports:
"Browns met with Connor Cook at Pro Day
Cleveland is expected to take a quarterback - likely North Dakota State's Carson Wentz - with the No. 2 overall pick in the NFL Draft, but it doesn't look like that will stop them from possibly drafting another QB later in the draft. One guy they seem to have their eye on is Michigan State's Connor Cook, who they met with after his Pro Day with the Spartans. He is projected to be a second round pick."Interesting last paragraph in that article on chatsports:
"Browns met with Connor Cook at Pro Day
Cleveland is expected to take a quarterback - likely North Dakota State's Carson Wentz - with the No. 2 overall pick in the NFL Draft, but it doesn't look like that will stop them from possibly drafting another QB later in the draft. One guy they seem to have their eye on is Michigan State's Connor Cook, who they met with after his Pro Day with the Spartans. He is projected to be a second round pick."
I think they will see what is up with just about every QB that could go in the first four rounds. The new staff seems to be pretty busy as opposed to Farmer who didn't attend pro days. Must have been too busy burning $100 bills with Dwayne Bowe.
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Now that I see what our FO is doing - a full reset with younger players, I no longer am on the Kaepernick train...... It no longer makes any sense. Barring injury, Josh McCown will play equally as well as Kap, so there is absolutely no reason to throw a 3rd/4th round pick away.
If Hue truly loves a QB, then we'll take him early in round 1, if he doesn't love a particular QB, then we'll go BPA and grab a QB later on. We need a boat load of young talent infused on this team, and this draft is critical on how long it takes to get competitive.
Now that I see what our FO is doing - a full reset with younger players, I no longer am on the Kaepernick train...... It no longer makes any sense. Barring injury, Josh McCown will play equally as well as Kap, so there is absolutely no reason to throw a 3rd/4th round pick away.
If Hue truly loves a QB, then we'll take him early in round 1, if he doesn't love a particular QB, then we'll go BPA and grab a QB later on. We need a boat load of young talent infused on this team, and this draft is critical on how long it takes to get competitive.
We need to work on our timing... I'm actually drifting the other way.
McC will not survive a season behind our diminished OL... he'll give his all, but he just won't. Kaep might have to set a QB rushing record, but he might survive.
If Hue thinks he can return Kaep to his early form, 2016 would seem to be the ideal season to check it out. So if we are going pass on the top QBs in the draft, and Kaep becomes an UFA, then why not sign him?
It's not my preferred route, but if it's Hue's, then at least we keep our pick. And McC lives to mentor another day...
Honestly tho... if Kaep goes UFA, I do not see us winning a bidding war for him.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Now that I see what our FO is doing - a full reset with younger players, I no longer am on the Kaepernick train...... It no longer makes any sense. Barring injury, Josh McCown will play equally as well as Kap, so there is absolutely no reason to throw a 3rd/4th round pick away.
If Hue truly loves a QB, then we'll take him early in round 1, if he doesn't love a particular QB, then we'll go BPA and grab a QB later on. We need a boat load of young talent infused on this team, and this draft is critical on how long it takes to get competitive.
We need to work on our timing... I'm actually drifting the other way.
McC will not survive a season behind our diminished OL... he'll give his all, but he just won't. Kaep might have to set a QB rushing record, but he might survive.
If Hue thinks he can return Kaep to his early form, 2016 would seem to be the ideal season to check it out. So if we are going pass on the top QBs in the draft, and Kaep becomes an UFA, then why not sign him?
It's not my preferred route, but if it's Hue's, then at least we keep our pick. And McC lives to mentor another day...
Honestly tho... if Kaep goes UFA, I do not see us winning a bidding war for him.
We need to work on our timing... I'm actually drifting the other way.
McC will not survive a season behind our diminished OL... he'll give his all, but he just won't. Kaep might have to set a QB rushing record, but he might survive.
HA! I can see your reasoning and it makes sense, but I'll throw another curve at you. If we do take a QB in say round 2-3, then I could see him starting by week 10, after Josh has given it his all and combined with the overall record of the team.
Having Kap on the team may actually prolong our agony, if it wouldn't allow our young guy of the future to get some valuable starts.
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