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  • Call me when they start playing games. The standings are the only power rankings I am interested in.

    @the-gipper said:

    Call me when they start playing games. The standings are the only power rankings I am interested in.

    Too bad those are usually bad too 🙁

  • @the-gipper said:

    Call me when they start playing games. The standings are the only power rankings I am interested in.

    Too bad those are usually bad too 🙁

    @bbedward said:

    Too bad those are usually bad too 🙁

    At least they are accurate.

  • @darren15 said:

    Were you as high with Manziel, Weeden and Quinn ?

    All three of these qb's came with two draft picks in the first round. Maybe if the Browns can get a first round qb this year luck will be on our side.

    One Post From the Truth said:

    All three of these qb's came with two draft picks in the first round. Maybe if the Browns can get a first round qb this year luck will be on our side.

    It's incredible how many first round picks the Browns franchise has blown. Hard to really wrap my head around it. Would be better if PoG was running the team.

  • One Post From the Truth said:

    All three of these qb's came with two draft picks in the first round. Maybe if the Browns can get a first round qb this year luck will be on our side.

    It's incredible how many first round picks the Browns franchise has blown. Hard to really wrap my head around it. Would be better if PoG was running the team.

    @mike-h said:

    It's incredible how many first round picks the Browns franchise has blown. Hard to really wrap my head around it. Would be better if PoG was running the team.

    We'd still have taken Richardson and Manziel.

  • Bengals seem low. Cowboys too.

  • Bengals seem low. Cowboys too.

    @wargograw said:

    Bengals seem low. Cowboys too.

    #9 seems about right for Cinci as of now. PTG is posed to retake the division, but may be a tad high at #4 given Bryant's suspension.

    The Boy's around 15 seems right given they have a run game to sort out.

    Raiders look low to me. They are going to give DNV a real run for their money this year.

  • Bengals roster is phenomenal top to bottom, pretty much. Such a well-oiled machine that their first two picks from last year were both able to take redshirts. So I have to disagree there, especially when you put teams with holes all over them ahead of them (Pats or Broncos for example). Then again, I thought this was a ranking of roster strength and not necessarily who would win on the field.

  • One Post From the Truth said:

    All three of these qb's came with two draft picks in the first round. Maybe if the Browns can get a first round qb this year luck will be on our side.

    It's incredible how many first round picks the Browns franchise has blown. Hard to really wrap my head around it. Would be better if PoG was running the team.

    @mike-h said:

    It's incredible how many first round picks the Browns franchise has blown. Hard to really wrap my head around it. Would be better if PoG was running the team.

    No, because we still would have had TR, Weeden, JMZ etc. He loved those guys....though I do think he was higher on Carr than on JFF.

  • @wargograw said:

    Bengals seem low. Cowboys too.

    #9 seems about right for Cinci as of now. PTG is posed to retake the division, but may be a tad high at #4 given Bryant's suspension.

    The Boy's around 15 seems right given they have a run game to sort out.

    Raiders look low to me. They are going to give DNV a real run for their money this year.

    @tour2ma said:

    #9 seems about right for Cinci as of now. PTG is posed to retake the division, but may be a tad high at #4 given Bryant's suspension.

    The Boy's around 15 seems right given they have a run game to sort out.

    Raiders look low to me. They are going to give DNV a real run for their money this year.

    What has happened in the off season to give Peetown the jump? Other than maybe getting Laveon Bell back, what have they done to improve their team over what the Bengals have done. (given that in my opinion the Bengals had more talent to start with).

    Hopefully, the Bengals biggest loss was losing their OC to become the Browns HC.

  • @tour2ma said:

    #9 seems about right for Cinci as of now. PTG is posed to retake the division, but may be a tad high at #4 given Bryant's suspension.

    The Boy's around 15 seems right given they have a run game to sort out.

    Raiders look low to me. They are going to give DNV a real run for their money this year.

    What has happened in the off season to give Peetown the jump? Other than maybe getting Laveon Bell back, what have they done to improve their team over what the Bengals have done. (given that in my opinion the Bengals had more talent to start with).

    Hopefully, the Bengals biggest loss was losing their OC to become the Browns HC.

    @the-gipper said:

    What has happened in the off season to give Peetown the jump? Other than maybe getting Laveon Bell back, what have they done to improve their team over what the Bengals have done. (given that in my opinion the Bengals had more talent to start with).

    Hopefully, the Bengals biggest loss was losing their OC to become the Browns HC.

    You say other than getting Bell back like it's not a big deal. He's the best running back in the nfl. Pouncey back from IR instead of Cody Wallace at center. Senquez Golson our second round corner off ir. Sammie Coates should be able to fill in just fine with the suspension. If the steelers were healthy through the playoffs do you think they would have lost to Denver? They barely lost with Ben hobbled, no brown, no bell and no pouncey. In addition to no beachum at left tackle even though the steelers let him walk. They are at 4 for a reason because most people realize they would have been damn near impossible to stop offensively if they were healthy. They also signed one of the fastest tight ends in the nfl who also happens to be 6'6. Edit: Heath retiring will be interesting but that's why they signed green.
  • VesnaKociper said:

    Some times, as fucking dumb as this board is, it STILL amazes me. the Steelers got THREE impact players back, and Ben has not been Healthy. That is what gives them such a high ranking. Add to that yet another steller Steeler draft, and they should be in the AFC playoffs again. Meanwhile, two years ago I said cut the entire team because they are all shit players and none of them want to play............. "but Ghoolie is too stupid to understand what it takes to build a team" NOw, 2 years later, every quality player has left, SO................ if they would have listened to me 2-years ago............ they COULD HAVE started building a team........... Now, there is no team.

    I really would like to see Cleveland lose their franchise. It isn't just the team that is embarrassing it is the fans. I really hope the Steelers win it all in 2016. Eventually, someone in Cleveland will get it, You would think.

    Well at least this trolling rant wasn't about offensive linemen, Raymond.

  • VesnaKociper said:

    I troll for your mother and she snaps on my cock every time.

    A mom joke too. Scraping the bottom of the barrel for material, Ray.

  • VesnaKociper said:

    I really would like to see Cleveland lose their franchise. It isn't just the team that is embarrassing it is the fans. I really hope the Steelers win it all in 2016. Eventually, someone in Cleveland will get it, You would think.

    4 nfl championships plus 4 aafc championships still beats 7 Super Bowls...maybe someday you'll get it.

  • @the-gipper said:

    What has happened in the off season to give Peetown the jump? Other than maybe getting Laveon Bell back, what have they done to improve their team over what the Bengals have done. (given that in my opinion the Bengals had more talent to start with).

    Hopefully, the Bengals biggest loss was losing their OC to become the Browns HC.

    You say other than getting Bell back like it's not a big deal. He's the best running back in the nfl. Pouncey back from IR instead of Cody Wallace at center. Senquez Golson our second round corner off ir. Sammie Coates should be able to fill in just fine with the suspension. If the steelers were healthy through the playoffs do you think they would have lost to Denver? They barely lost with Ben hobbled, no brown, no bell and no pouncey. In addition to no beachum at left tackle even though the steelers let him walk. They are at 4 for a reason because most people realize they would have been damn near impossible to stop offensively if they were healthy. They also signed one of the fastest tight ends in the nfl who also happens to be 6'6. Edit: Heath retiring will be interesting but that's why they signed green.

    @vagitron said:

    You say other than getting Bell back like it's not a big deal.

    No....read English much, I said other than getting him back what have they done to improve.

    He's the best running back in the nfl.

    Debatable, but he is up there.

    Pouncey back from IR instead of Cody Wallace at center.

    Not sure that is that much of an upgrade....that OL played pretty well without Pouncey. They won't improve that much if at all with him.

    Senquez Golson our second round corner off ir. Sammie Coates should be able to fill in just fine with the suspension.

    Guys on your roster that played. No improvement over last year there.

    If the steelers were healthy through the playoffs do you think they would have lost to Denver?

    Yes

    They barely lost with Ben hobbled, no brown, no bell and no pouncey. In addition to no beachum at left tackle even though the steelers let him walk.

    They would still have lost.

    They are at 4 for a reason because most people realize they would have been damn near impossible to stop offensively if they were healthy.

    But now they have lost one of their best weapons.

    They also signed one of the fastest tight ends in the nfl who also happens to be 6'6.

    Remains to be seen if he can match the attributes of Miller.....losing Miller, picking up this other guy....a wash

    I repeat: other than getting Bell back from injuries....I see no improvement so far.

  • VesnaKociper said:

    Some times, as fucking dumb as this board is, it STILL amazes me. the Steelers got THREE impact players back, and Ben has not been Healthy. That is what gives them such a high ranking. Add to that yet another steller Steeler draft, and they should be in the AFC playoffs again. Meanwhile, two years ago I said cut the entire team because they are all shit players and none of them want to play............. "but Ghoolie is too stupid to understand what it takes to build a team" NOw, 2 years later, every quality player has left, SO................ if they would have listened to me 2-years ago............ they COULD HAVE started building a team........... Now, there is no team.

    I really would like to see Cleveland lose their franchise. It isn't just the team that is embarrassing it is the fans. I really hope the Steelers win it all in 2016. Eventually, someone in Cleveland will get it, You would think.

    Ghoolie, you can stop being a Browns fan any time you like. No one is forcing you to be here. You wanna be a Fucking FRAK....go ahead....but just like most of the rest of Steeler fan base. Glom on to it because they win.

    Or, why not be a Broncos fan? They are Champs? Or Patriots...they are organized and win more than the Steelers...if that is all you are interested in.

  • VesnaKociper said:

    I really would like to see Cleveland lose their franchise. It isn't just the team that is embarrassing it is the fans. I really hope the Steelers win it all in 2016. Eventually, someone in Cleveland will get it, You would think.

    4 nfl championships plus 4 aafc championships still beats 7 Super Bowls...maybe someday you'll get it.

    @stinkhole said:

    4 nfl championships plus 4 aafc championships still beats 7 Super Bowls...maybe someday you'll get it.

    First off.....typical Steeler fan.....too stupid to know that the Steelers only have 6 titles, not 7. (What did I say about their fan base...they don't even know shit about their own team).

    And Cleveland has 13 titles. We were winning titles before the Steelers ever existed.

  • @vagitron said:

    You say other than getting Bell back like it's not a big deal.

    No....read English much, I said other than getting him back what have they done to improve.

    He's the best running back in the nfl.

    Debatable, but he is up there.

    Pouncey back from IR instead of Cody Wallace at center.

    Not sure that is that much of an upgrade....that OL played pretty well without Pouncey. They won't improve that much if at all with him.

    Senquez Golson our second round corner off ir. Sammie Coates should be able to fill in just fine with the suspension.

    Guys on your roster that played. No improvement over last year there.

    If the steelers were healthy through the playoffs do you think they would have lost to Denver?

    Yes

    They barely lost with Ben hobbled, no brown, no bell and no pouncey. In addition to no beachum at left tackle even though the steelers let him walk.

    They would still have lost.

    They are at 4 for a reason because most people realize they would have been damn near impossible to stop offensively if they were healthy.

    But now they have lost one of their best weapons.

    They also signed one of the fastest tight ends in the nfl who also happens to be 6'6.

    Remains to be seen if he can match the attributes of Miller.....losing Miller, picking up this other guy....a wash

    I repeat: other than getting Bell back from injuries....I see no improvement so far.

    @the-gipper said:

    @vagitron said:

    You say other than getting Bell back like it's not a big deal.

    No....read English much, I said other than getting him back what have they done to improve.

    He's the best running back in the nfl.

    Debatable, but he is up there.

    Pouncey back from IR instead of Cody Wallace at center.

    Not sure that is that much of an upgrade....that OL played pretty well without Pouncey. They won't improve that much if at all with him.

    Senquez Golson our second round corner off ir. Sammie Coates should be able to fill in just fine with the suspension.

    Guys on your roster that played. No improvement over last year there.

    If the steelers were healthy through the playoffs do you think they would have lost to Denver?

    Yes

    They barely lost with Ben hobbled, no brown, no bell and no pouncey. In addition to no beachum at left tackle even though the steelers let him walk.

    They would still have lost.

    They are at 4 for a reason because most people realize they would have been damn near impossible to stop offensively if they were healthy.

    But now they have lost one of their best weapons.

    They also signed one of the fastest tight ends in the nfl who also happens to be 6'6.

    Remains to be seen if he can match the attributes of Miller.....losing Miller, picking up this other guy....a wash

    I repeat: other than getting Bell back from injuries....I see no improvement so far.

    You're special if you don't think Pouncey is a massive upgrade over Wallace whether or not he played okay as a backup. Bell is widely regarded as the best in the league. Check how many times he's fumbled then check how many times Peterson has fumbled. I also find it comical that you believe the Broncos still would have won had Brown, Bell, Ben, pouncey and beachum played in the divisional. Chris Harris Jr. Got absolutely torched in the first match up by Brown. It's okay Gipper you will always be one of the idiots calling for the demise of the steelers. I expect no different. I just wonder how many times someone can be wrong before they realize they may be missing a chromosome.
  • @the-gipper said:

    @vagitron said:

    You say other than getting Bell back like it's not a big deal.

    No....read English much, I said other than getting him back what have they done to improve.

    He's the best running back in the nfl.

    Debatable, but he is up there.

    Pouncey back from IR instead of Cody Wallace at center.

    Not sure that is that much of an upgrade....that OL played pretty well without Pouncey. They won't improve that much if at all with him.

    Senquez Golson our second round corner off ir. Sammie Coates should be able to fill in just fine with the suspension.

    Guys on your roster that played. No improvement over last year there.

    If the steelers were healthy through the playoffs do you think they would have lost to Denver?

    Yes

    They barely lost with Ben hobbled, no brown, no bell and no pouncey. In addition to no beachum at left tackle even though the steelers let him walk.

    They would still have lost.

    They are at 4 for a reason because most people realize they would have been damn near impossible to stop offensively if they were healthy.

    But now they have lost one of their best weapons.

    They also signed one of the fastest tight ends in the nfl who also happens to be 6'6.

    Remains to be seen if he can match the attributes of Miller.....losing Miller, picking up this other guy....a wash

    I repeat: other than getting Bell back from injuries....I see no improvement so far.

    You're special if you don't think Pouncey is a massive upgrade over Wallace whether or not he played okay as a backup. Bell is widely regarded as the best in the league. Check how many times he's fumbled then check how many times Peterson has fumbled. I also find it comical that you believe the Broncos still would have won had Brown, Bell, Ben, pouncey and beachum played in the divisional. Chris Harris Jr. Got absolutely torched in the first match up by Brown. It's okay Gipper you will always be one of the idiots calling for the demise of the steelers. I expect no different. I just wonder how many times someone can be wrong before they realize they may be missing a chromosome.

    @vagitron said:

    You're special if you don't think Pouncey is a massive upgrade over Wallace whether or not he played okay as a backup.

    We had a guy that was just as good as Pouncey also coming back off of a major injury like Pouncey: Alex Mack. He did not perform as well. It is really a crapshoot for Pouncey to come back to his old form.

    Bell is widely regarded as the best in the league. Check how many times he's fumbled then check how many times Peterson has fumbled.

    Peterson is universally rated as the best in the league. And Bell is coming off injury. It often takes two years to come back from that kind of problem. Can he be his old self? Perhaps at some point. It remains to be seen. Is his being back a bonus for the Steelers? Yes, I said that. You apparently don't fucking understand the words that are written. That is what I call special.

    I also find it comical that you believe the Broncos still would have won had Brown, Bell, Ben, pouncey and beachum played in the divisional.

    EVERYONE finds it comical that you automatically think the Steelers would have won. They weren't the only ones that had some injuries. The Broncos did too...and won nevertheless. You only got play them because of the fluke stupidity of the Bengals.

    Chris Harris Jr. Got absolutely torched in the first match up by Brown.

    And still, the Broncos would have won.

    It's okay Gipper you will always be one of the idiots calling for the demise of the steelers.

    Actually....you are an idiot because I am one of the few around here that has almost never said the Steelers were about to demise. You really can't keep your shit straight, can you. I said that the Steelers, other than the return of Bell, haven't improved in the offseason from what I can see.

    So....when I say they are pretty much status quo....do you take that as calling for their demise?

    Not only can you not remember things....you can't comprehend them. What kind of a fucking Retard are you?

    I expect no different. I just wonder how many times someone can be wrong before they realize they may be missing a chromosome.

    I don't know....you are the one named after female genitalia. What does it feel like to not have a dick and balls...and worse yet, a properly functioning brain? You can't remember who says what about what. You can't interpret what is said in a simple statement.

  • Gipshit the Bengals game was well in hand before burfict took both Brown and Ben out of the game. No guarantees the Steelers would have won against Denever but that defense in the first match up couldn't stop Ben and Brown. Brown didn't play in the divisional and Ben was dinged. Good chance the Broncos lose again if the Steelers just had Brown back and a more healthy Ben under center. Either way this is all based on your inability to realize the Steelers have a ridiculous offense, are getting an all pro center back (injury or not) arguably the best back in the league and Brown and Ben healthy. They are at 4 for a reason. It's not rocket science you are just dense. You can also check plenty of ranking lists for best back in the league. Bell is at the top of most of them. I also didn't make my board name but you know that already. You're a dipshit. 🙂

  • Gipshit the Bengals game was well in hand before burfict took both Brown and Ben out of the game. No guarantees the Steelers would have won against Denever but that defense in the first match up couldn't stop Ben and Brown. Brown didn't play in the divisional and Ben was dinged. Good chance the Broncos lose again if the Steelers just had Brown back and a more healthy Ben under center. Either way this is all based on your inability to realize the Steelers have a ridiculous offense, are getting an all pro center back (injury or not) arguably the best back in the league and Brown and Ben healthy. They are at 4 for a reason. It's not rocket science you are just dense. You can also check plenty of ranking lists for best back in the league. Bell is at the top of most of them. I also didn't make my board name but you know that already. You're a dipshit. 🙂

    @vagitron said:

    Gipshit the Bengals game was well in hand before burfict took both Brown and Ben out of the game. No guarantees the Steelers would have won against Denever but that defense in the first match up couldn't stop Ben and Brown. Brown didn't play in the divisional and Ben was dinged. Good chance the Broncos lose again if the Steelers just had Brown back and a more healthy Ben under center. Either way this is all based on your inability to realize the Steelers have a ridiculous offense, are getting an all pro center back (injury or not) arguably the best back in the league and Brown and Ben healthy. They are at 4 for a reason. It's not rocket science you are just dense. You can also check plenty of ranking lists for best back in the league. Bell is at the top of most of them. I also didn't make my board name but you know that already. You're a dipshit. 🙂

    Why are you here? You are the dingle berry that won't break loose.