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  • Teams mortgage their drafts for QB's. It used to be RB's. Elliott and a seasoned RG3 would be better than Griffin and Alfred Morris were. IF they take a stud WR in the second round. No one in this draft will make the defense better than Elliott would make the offense.

    @skippinturtles said:

    Teams mortgage their drafts for QB's. It used to be RB's. Elliott and a seasoned RG3 would be better than Griffin and Alfred Morris were. IF they take a stud WR in the second round. No one in this draft will make the defense better than Elliott would make the offense.

    The operative words are "used to be". Tom Brady has more Championships by himself than Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Adrian Peterson, and Ladanian Tomlinson- combined.

    Sure, I'd love to have a potentially great RB like Zeke- but if you can name the starting running backs in Super Bowl 50- go to the head of the class. The only way we take Elliot is in a trade down scenario. NOT @ #2.

  • I LOVE zeke but no, not at 2. He has no line infront of him. You don't take rb's that high anymore

  • Our QB needs protection, so we should pass on the elite tackle prospect in favour of a running back. Makes sense.

    I love the tenacity - even though every single one of Skippin' Turtles' threads are idiotic, they keep popping up!

  • Elliot would be great, but as others have said not at #2 and he won't be there at #32

  • Just curious, how much weed does one have to smoke to arrive at the conclusion that what this team really needs to do is draft a RB at #2?

    We have not taken a QB higher than #22 in 17 years, but apparently the solution to that is take a RB in the Top 3 for the second time in five years. Cause he can block for the free QB we just picked up off the street.

    Zombo

  • Our QB needs protection, so we should pass on the elite tackle prospect in favour of a running back. Makes sense.

    I love the tenacity - even though every single one of Skippin' Turtles' threads are idiotic, they keep popping up!

    @gftchris said:

    Our QB needs protection, so we should pass on the elite tackle prospect in favour of a running back. Makes sense.

    I love the tenacity - even though every single one of Skippin' Turtles' threads are idiotic, they keep popping up!

    I didn't get the logic either

  • yeah and when are the browns supposed to pick him?

    @miktoxic said:

    yeah and when are the browns supposed to pick him?

    At 8 when the Eagles trade their draft to us to get Carson Wentz

  • I LOVE zeke but no, not at 2. He has no line infront of him. You don't take rb's that high anymore

    @clevfan4life said:

    I LOVE zeke but no, not at 2. He has no line infront of him.

    More reason to take him so he can pick up the DT who just ran over Cam... 😉

    #8 is a more reasonable place to consider Zeke, but I don't like the idea of taking a franchise RB early in a rebuild process. Three-years are not guaranteed, let alone ten, as was suggested by the OP.

    There will be an impact Defensive player there at #8. Buckner is the one I'd look for...

  • @clevfan4life said:

    I LOVE zeke but no, not at 2. He has no line infront of him.

    More reason to take him so he can pick up the DT who just ran over Cam... 😉

    #8 is a more reasonable place to consider Zeke, but I don't like the idea of taking a franchise RB early in a rebuild process. Three-years are not guaranteed, let alone ten, as was suggested by the OP.

    There will be an impact Defensive player there at #8. Buckner is the one I'd look for...

    @tour2ma said:

    More reason to take him so he can pick up the DT who just ran over Cam... 😉

    #8 is a more reasonable place to consider Zeke, but I don't like the idea of taking a franchise RB early in a rebuild process. Three-years are not guaranteed, let alone ten, as was suggested by the OP.

    There will be an impact Defensive player there at #8. Buckner is the one I'd look for...

    What are we getting back with our move down to #8 in your scenario?

  • I still like doing the trade for Dallas to go to #4, they also giving us their 2e and 3rd round picks. We still get one of the best players out there....and we get those other high picks to fill holes.

  • If the FO is convinced RGIII and a development QB in a later round is the path I'm all in on Zeke. A trade down to 8 would be optimal. While there aren't a lot of RB's drafted that high there aren't many like Zeke either IMO

  • Is Dallas interested in a trade with us? I hadn't heard that,

  • Just curious, how much weed does one have to smoke to arrive at the conclusion that what this team really needs to do is draft a RB at #2?

    We have not taken a QB higher than #22 in 17 years, but apparently the solution to that is take a RB in the Top 3 for the second time in five years. Cause he can block for the free QB we just picked up off the street.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    Just curious, how much weed does one have to smoke to arrive at the conclusion that what this team really needs to do is draft a RB at #2?

    We have not taken a QB higher than #22 in 17 years, but apparently the solution to that is take a RB in the Top 3 for the second time in five years. Cause he can block for the free QB we just picked up off the street.

    Zombo

    Touchdown Timmy Couch was taken #1-1 in 1999, but yeah.

    Just for arguments sake, let's say that some don't think of Goff or Wentz as worthy of that high a pick, and Ramsey is seen as the next Ed Reed or Troy Polamolou (sp) and could be a 8-10 year fixture in the defensive backfield, plus being touted as being able to play corner or safety - do you take that? And perhaps get the kid Ghoolie likes later, or a different qb?

  • Is Dallas interested in a trade with us? I hadn't heard that,

    @clevfan4life said:

    Is Dallas interested in a trade with us? I hadn't heard that,

    Rumors have it that that is so.

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  • Zombo said:

    Just curious, how much weed does one have to smoke to arrive at the conclusion that what this team really needs to do is draft a RB at #2?

    We have not taken a QB higher than #22 in 17 years, but apparently the solution to that is take a RB in the Top 3 for the second time in five years. Cause he can block for the free QB we just picked up off the street.

    Zombo

    Touchdown Timmy Couch was taken #1-1 in 1999, but yeah.

    Just for arguments sake, let's say that some don't think of Goff or Wentz as worthy of that high a pick, and Ramsey is seen as the next Ed Reed or Troy Polamolou (sp) and could be a 8-10 year fixture in the defensive backfield, plus being touted as being able to play corner or safety - do you take that? And perhaps get the kid Ghoolie likes later, or a different qb?

    @mohican said:

    Touchdown Timmy Couch was taken #1-1 in 1999, but yeah.

    Just for arguments sake, let's say that some don't think of Goff or Wentz as worthy of that high a pick, and Ramsey is seen as the next Ed Reed or Troy Polamolou (sp) and could be a 8-10 year fixture in the defensive backfield, plus being touted as being able to play corner or safety - do you take that? And perhaps get the kid Ghoolie likes later, or a different qb?

    If you had a crystal ball....or a time machine in a DeLorean, you could see the future and tell which players will be beasts and which will be busts....and of course you take the beasts.

    People thought Jamarcus Russell would be a beast. Turns out the only kind of beast he was was the kind the Whos in Whoville ate for Christmas dinner.

  • couch was a good QB with no protection. it made no sense to draft a franchise kid and throw him in like palmer and crew did. at least if we draft one now and decide to do so the OL is 100x better than that mess the browns fielded then.

    it's all about timing with drafting personnel. you have to have the building blocks in place first then add to them. that's why i could see drafting a young QB now. if it's a total scrap and crap then they should start by having people in line to replace those building blocks.

  • Zombo said:

    Just curious, how much weed does one have to smoke to arrive at the conclusion that what this team really needs to do is draft a RB at #2?

    We have not taken a QB higher than #22 in 17 years, but apparently the solution to that is take a RB in the Top 3 for the second time in five years. Cause he can block for the free QB we just picked up off the street.

    Zombo

    Touchdown Timmy Couch was taken #1-1 in 1999, but yeah.

    Just for arguments sake, let's say that some don't think of Goff or Wentz as worthy of that high a pick, and Ramsey is seen as the next Ed Reed or Troy Polamolou (sp) and could be a 8-10 year fixture in the defensive backfield, plus being touted as being able to play corner or safety - do you take that? And perhaps get the kid Ghoolie likes later, or a different qb?

    @mohican said:

    Touchdown Timmy Couch was taken #1-1 in 1999, but yeah.

    Just for arguments sake, let's say that some don't think of Goff or Wentz as worthy of that high a pick, and Ramsey is seen as the next Ed Reed or Troy Polamolou (sp) and could be a 8-10 year fixture in the defensive backfield, plus being touted as being able to play corner or safety - do you take that? And perhaps get the kid Ghoolie likes later, or a different qb?

    Jesus it's baffling that was 17 years ago.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    I LOVE zeke but no, not at 2. He has no line infront of him.

    More reason to take him so he can pick up the DT who just ran over Cam... 😉

    #8 is a more reasonable place to consider Zeke, but I don't like the idea of taking a franchise RB early in a rebuild process. Three-years are not guaranteed, let alone ten, as was suggested by the OP.

    There will be an impact Defensive player there at #8. Buckner is the one I'd look for...

    @tour2ma said:

    More reason to take him so he can pick up the DT who just ran over Cam... 😉

    #8 is a more reasonable place to consider Zeke, but I don't like the idea of taking a franchise RB early in a rebuild process. Three-years are not guaranteed, let alone ten, as was suggested by the OP.

    There will be an impact Defensive player there at #8. Buckner is the one I'd look for...

    Hopefully he has a child to beat so he can be suspended for a season or so thereby lengthening his productivity in the NFL ala AP.

    🙂

    (sorry was that in bad taste?)

    WSS

  • I'm a Michigan fan

    Zeke is a beast

    Picking a HB that high is stupid

  • couch was a good QB with no protection. it made no sense to draft a franchise kid and throw him in like palmer and crew did. at least if we draft one now and decide to do so the OL is 100x better than that mess the browns fielded then.

    it's all about timing with drafting personnel. you have to have the building blocks in place first then add to them. that's why i could see drafting a young QB now. if it's a total scrap and crap then they should start by having people in line to replace those building blocks.

    @miktoxic said:

    couch was a good QB with no protection. it made no sense to draft a franchise kid and throw him in like palmer and crew did. at least if we draft one now and decide to do so the OL is 100x better than that mess the browns fielded then.

    it's all about timing with drafting personnel. you have to have the building blocks in place first then add to them. that's why i could see drafting a young QB now. if it's a total scrap and crap then they should start by having people in line to replace those building blocks.

    Totally agree here.