Depth Chart/Roster analysis...Draft Add Who?
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Question for Admin: If I goof up a post, I can edit it, but I see no way to correct a goofed up title to the thread (like I did here) How do you fix that?
Question for Admin: If I goof up a post, I can edit it, but I see no way to correct a goofed up title to the thread (like I did here) How do you fix that?
Use the full editor, and it should let you do that.
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Here is a listing/analysis of the Browns roster/depth chart. For purposes of this task I am asking whom you think the Browns should add to this via their draft picks at 8, 32, 65, 77, 99, and 100 at these positions. For this purpose though you can only fill these 6 spots. So you can't choose a draftee everywhere, so you must be selective. Also tell us who you would ship out after you pick someone.
OFFENSE:
QB: RGIII, McCown, Davis, O'Connor, Pat Devlin
Add?: 8, 32, 65, 77, 99, 100?:
RB: Crowell, Duke, Glenn Winston, Mostert, Watson
Add?
TE: Barnidge, Bibbs, Telfer, Hamlett
Add?
WR: Hawkins, Hartline, Gabriel, Marlon Moore, Pryor, Ranelle Hall, Darius Jennings, Salim Hakim
Add?
FB: Malcolm Johnson
Add?:
LT: Joe Thomas, Dan France
Add?:
LG: Bitonio, Kabel Johnson
Add?
OC: Cam Erving, Party On Garth Gerhart
Add?
RG: Greco, Alvin Bailey, Connor Bofeli
Add?:
RT: Pasztor, Michael Bowie, Eric Ladson
Add?:
DEFENSE:
RDE: Hughes, Dylan Wynn
Add?:
NT: Shelton, Meder
Add?:
LDE: D. Bryant, X. Cooper
Add?
LOLB: Kruger, Mingo, Soloman, Jeffcoat
Add?:
LILB: Carder, Justin Tuggle
Add?
RILB: D. Davis, Kirksey
Add?
ROLB: Orchard, Armonty Bryant, Cam Johnson
Add:
LCB: Haden, Desir, Charles Gaines
Add:?
SS: Ibrahim Campbell
Add:
FS: Rahim Moore, Poyer, Sean Baker, Tim Scott, Don Jones
Add:?
RCB: T. William, K. Williams, Gilbert
Add:
So, OK, you have 22 positions, but you have only 6 picks in the first 100 to choose a player to fill a gap.
Which gap do you fill...and with whom would you like to see it filled
(please feel free to note which players at which positions you would like to see picked for our later picks...138, 141, 172, 173, 176, 223
Here is a listing/analysis of the Browns roster/depth chart. For purposes of this task I am asking whom you think the Browns should add to this via their draft picks at 8, 32, 65, 77, 99, and 100 at these positions. For this purpose though you can only fill these 6 spots. So you can't choose a draftee everywhere, so you must be selective. Also tell us who you would ship out after you pick someone.
OFFENSE:
QB: RGIII, McCown, Davis, O'Connor, Pat Devlin
Add?: 8, 32, 65, 77, 99, 100?:
RB: Crowell, Duke, Glenn Winston, Mostert, Watson
Add?
TE: Barnidge, Bibbs, Telfer, Hamlett
Add?
WR: Hawkins, Hartline, Gabriel, Marlon Moore, Pryor, Ranelle Hall, Darius Jennings, Salim Hakim
Add? I Choose 2 WRs: Either Josh Doctson or Will Fuller at #32, then Leonte Caroo at either #99 or 100 (Hill and Jennings gone)
FB: Malcolm Johnson
Add?:
LT: Joe Thomas, Dan France
Add?:
LG: Bitonio, Kabel Johnson
Add?
OC: Cam Erving, Party On Garth Gerhart
Add?
RG: Greco, Alvin Bailey, Connor Bofeli
Add?:
RT: Pasztor, Michael Bowie, Eric Ladson
Add?: How about Jerald Hawkins OT LSU at #77 (Ladson gone)
DEFENSE:
RDE: Hughes, Dylan Wynn E
Add?: Either Bosa or Buckner at #8 (Wynn gone...or he may stay for further backup)
NT: Shelton, Meder
Add?:
LDE: D. Bryant, X. Cooper
Add?
LOLB: Kruger, Mingo, Soloman, Jeffcoat
Add?:
LILB: Carder, Justin Tuggle (Kirksey to move to starter at ILB
Add? Kentrell Brothers or Joshua Perry ...though one of these may go outside. at #65
RILB: D. Davis, Kirksey
Add?
ROLB: Orchard, Armonty Bryant, Cam Johnson
Add:
LCB: Haden, Desir, Charles Gaines
Add:?
SS: Ibrahim Campbell
Add: Jeremy Cash Duke at 99 or 100
FS: Rahim Moore, Poyer, Sean Baker, Tim Scott, Don Jones
Add:?
RCB: T. William, K. Williams, Gilbert
Add:
So, OK, you have 22 positions, but you have only 6 picks in the first 100 to choose a player to fill a gap.
Which gap do you fill...and with whom would you like to see it filled
(please feel free to note which players at which positions you would like to see picked for our later picks...138, 141, 172, 173, 176, 223
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I note that even without any of the draftees the Browns have 62 people on their roster....not including special teams.
So, some trimming beyond just draft replacement will have to be made. (with the understanding that some of these may be practice squad guys.)
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I note that even without any of the draftees the Browns have 62 people on their roster....not including special teams.
So, some trimming beyond just draft replacement will have to be made. (with the understanding that some of these may be practice squad guys.)
I note that even without any of the draftees the Browns have 62 people on their roster....not including special teams.
So, some trimming beyond just draft replacement will have to be made. (with the understanding that some of these may be practice squad guys.)
We'll need to get up to 90 first though, so a bunch of UDFAs.
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Your score is: 8739 (GRADE:
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 8: Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Josh Doctson, WR, TCU (B+)
Round 2 Pick 20 (NYJ): Karl Joseph, SS/FS, West Virginia (A+)
Round 3 Pick 14: Connor McGovern, OG, Missouri (
Round 4 Pick 1: Miles Killebrew, SS, Southern Utah (A-)
Round 4 Pick 40 (COMP): Scooby Wright III, ILB, Arizona (A+)
Round 5 Pick 33 (COMP): Willie Henry, DT, Michigan (B+)
Round 5 Pick 34 (COMP): Tyler Higbee, TE, Western Kentucky (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Moritz Boehringer, WR/TE, Germany
Round 7 Pick 6 (MIA): Cody Core, WR, Ole Miss (A)
Round 7 Pick 10 (MIA): Keith Marshall, RB, Georgia (A+)
Your Future Picks:
2017 Round 1 Pick
2017 Round 1 Pick
2018 Round 1 Pick
Flawless.
RB- Zeke, Duke, Marshall, Crow
WR- (Gordon), Doctson/Coleman, Boehringer, Pryor, Core, Gabe/Hawkins, Hartline
FS- Joseph, Poyer
SS- Killebrew, Campbell
OL- Thomas, Bitonio, Erving, Greco, McGovern
TE- Barnidge, Higbee, Boehringer
FB- Soma Vainuku(UDRFA)
ILB-Davis, Scooby
DT- Shelton, Henry, Meder
Those are the changes I'd make.
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Your score is: 8739 (GRADE:
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 8: Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Josh Doctson, WR, TCU (B+)
Round 2 Pick 20 (NYJ): Karl Joseph, SS/FS, West Virginia (A+)
Round 3 Pick 14: Connor McGovern, OG, Missouri (
Round 4 Pick 1: Miles Killebrew, SS, Southern Utah (A-)
Round 4 Pick 40 (COMP): Scooby Wright III, ILB, Arizona (A+)
Round 5 Pick 33 (COMP): Willie Henry, DT, Michigan (B+)
Round 5 Pick 34 (COMP): Tyler Higbee, TE, Western Kentucky (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Moritz Boehringer, WR/TE, Germany
Round 7 Pick 6 (MIA): Cody Core, WR, Ole Miss (A)
Round 7 Pick 10 (MIA): Keith Marshall, RB, Georgia (A+)
Your Future Picks:
2017 Round 1 Pick
2017 Round 1 Pick
2018 Round 1 Pick
Flawless.
RB- Zeke, Duke, Marshall, Crow
WR- (Gordon), Doctson/Coleman, Boehringer, Pryor, Core, Gabe/Hawkins, Hartline
FS- Joseph, Poyer
SS- Killebrew, Campbell
OL- Thomas, Bitonio, Erving, Greco, McGovern
TE- Barnidge, Higbee, Boehringer
FB- Soma Vainuku(UDRFA)
ILB-Davis, Scooby
DT- Shelton, Henry, Meder
Those are the changes I'd make.
Your score is: 8739 (GRADE:
I don't know wtf this means.
Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 8: Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Josh Doctson, WR, TCU (B+)
Round 2 Pick 20 (NYJ): Karl Joseph, SS/FS, West Virginia (A+)
Round 3 Pick 14: Connor McGovern, OG, Missouri (
Round 4 Pick 1: Miles Killebrew, SS, Southern Utah (A-)
Round 4 Pick 40 (COMP): Scooby Wright III, ILB, Arizona (A+)
Round 5 Pick 33 (COMP): Willie Henry, DT, Michigan (B+)
Round 5 Pick 34 (COMP): Tyler Higbee, TE, Western Kentucky (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Moritz Boehringer, WR/TE, Germany
Round 7 Pick 6 (MIA): Cody Core, WR, Ole Miss (A)
Round 7 Pick 10 (MIA): Keith Marshall, RB, Georgia (A+)
But, I see some aspects of this being OK, others perhaps not:
You ignored getting a pass rusher and the OT position
We don't need another RB if they get Zeke.
I don't think they need to draft 2 TEs and 3 WRs.
Not that there is anything wrong with your choices, it is what you ignored that is a problem as I see it.
Though....what does Marshall give us that Mostert/Watson/Winston don't?
Your Future Picks:
2017 Round 1 Pick
2017 Round 1 Pick
2018 Round 1 Pick
Flawless.
RB- Zeke, Duke, Marshall, Crow
WR- (Gordon), Doctson/Coleman, Boehringer, Pryor, Core, Gabe/Hawkins, Hartline (9 WRs? Too many on a 53 man roster?)
FS- Joseph, Poyer
SS- Killebrew, Campbell
OL- Thomas, Bitonio, Erving, Greco, McGovern
TE- Barnidge, Higbee, Boehringer
FB- Soma Vainuku(UDRFA)....this I can perfectly understand...though I took Gronkowski in the 7th.
ILB-Davis, Scooby
DT- Shelton, Henry, Meder
Those are the changes I'd make.
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Remove Malcom Johnson. Cut him, trade him for a used Jugs machine, I don't care - he's not an NFL player or coach.
None of the current TE's can block.. that needs to change for the run game. I don't care what else happens as long as these get fixed.
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Remove Malcom Johnson. Cut him, trade him for a used Jugs machine, I don't care - he's not an NFL player or coach.
None of the current TE's can block.. that needs to change for the run game. I don't care what else happens as long as these get fixed.
Remove Malcom Johnson. Cut him, trade him for a used Jugs machine, I don't care - he's not an NFL player or coach.
None of the current TE's can block.. that needs to change for the run game. I don't care what else happens as long as these get fixed.
How do we know what Telfer can do? He was just a rookie last year, primarily placed on the taxi squad, no? Or do you want to go fairly high with a TE pick?
(and can you say that you would be OK with my choice of baby Gronk in rd. 7 at FB?)
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Round 1 Pick 8: Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Josh Doctson, WR, TCU (B+)
Round 2 Pick 20 (NYJ): Karl Joseph, SS/FS, West Virginia (A+)
Round 3 Pick 14: Connor McGovern, OG, Missouri (
Round 4 Pick 1: Miles Killebrew, SS, Southern Utah (A-)
Round 4 Pick 40 (COMP): Scooby Wright III, ILB, Arizona (A+)
Round 5 Pick 33 (COMP): Willie Henry, DT, Michigan (B+)
Round 5 Pick 34 (COMP): Tyler Higbee, TE, Western Kentucky (A)
Round 6 Pick 1: Moritz Boehringer, WR/TE, Germany
Round 7 Pick 6 (MIA): Cody Core, WR, Ole Miss (A)
Round 7 Pick 10 (MIA): Keith Marshall, RB, Georgia (A+)
But, I see some aspects of this being OK, others perhaps not:
It's all in how you look at it.
You ignored getting a pass rusher and the OT position
For Pass Rusher, I'm banking on a rejuvenated and rebuilt Mingo. He and Kruger in the right defensive scheme will work pretty well. I'm also thinking we have a young couple of guys that we've not really tapped into yet.. Nate Orchard?
The Offensive Line will be stout with moving McGovern to ROT. He's versatile and could go to G or OT, I'll work him at the RT spot and go: Thomas, Bitonio, Erving, Greco, McGovern
We don't need another RB if they get Zeke.
Zeke would be the de facto Starter. Duke would be the change of pace back. Marshall would come in when Zeke needs a rest. This would be a great stable of RB's to compete. They are all young and should have the RB spots covered for several years to come. Marshall would be an upgrade over Crowell. He's got another gear few players have.
I don't think they need to draft 2 TEs and 3 WRs.
Not that there is anything wrong with your choices, it is what you ignored that is a problem as I see it.
Though....what does Marshall give us that Mostert/Watson/Winston don't?
RB- Zeke, Duke, Marshall, Crow
WR- (Gordon), Doctson/Coleman, Boehringer, Pryor, Core, Gabe/Hawkins, Hartline (9 WRs? Too many on a 53
I wouldn't go with 9 WRs, I'd see it like this...
#1-Gordon. I'm counting on him being reinstated and rejuvenating his career as one of the most dominant WRs in the game.
#2-Josh Doctson OR Corey Coleman. Whichever one I can get, hoping one is there with our second pick...
#3-Mortiz Boehringer. I see him becoming a force. He plays hard. Catches everything and runs like a gazelle on fire.
#4-Terrel Pryor. All the arrows seem to be pointing upward on him making the transition to a really good WR. He Blocks.
#5-Hartline. He's probably the weakest link in the group... and that's not a bad thing. Solid possession guy.
#6-Taylor Gabriel OR Andrew Hawkins. I see them as similar type players. If we get Coleman he's better than both combined.
This was much more detailed before I deleted or clicked off or something...
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This is after the injury, still blazing speed. He's going to have a chip on his shoulder being drafted late as well...
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Gordon...
He'll reapply for reinstatement in August. Provided there is no more red flags he should be reinstated promptly. He should be ready for preseason. He's been staying in great shape and will play like a man possessed when he is given the chance again. I'm counting on him, I trust that he knows what is at stake. Griffin to Gordon, all day - all day.
The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain- -
This is after the injury, still blazing speed. He's going to have a chip on his shoulder being drafted late as well...
This is after the injury, still blazing speed. He's going to have a chip on his shoulder being drafted late as well...
Poe, clean your room & put your toys away (mock monster). I scouted him in Raleigh, NC where he was a HS track star. Love the kid & has the heart of Gurley (also a track star). Mostly sat behind Gurley at Ga. BUT the man has not takin a football hit in over 2 years & not many in college. The NFL, that's a big leap of faith.. Hope he can, great kid
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Per NFL Live, Esp on...M. Bowie & Alvin Bailey will battle for RT position. Interviewee She, watched Sashi lips move the whole time
Per NFL Live, Esp on...M. Bowie & Alvin Bailey will battle for RT position. Interviewee She, watched Sashi lips move the whole time
Won't Austin Pasztor also be in this mix.
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For Pass Rusher, I'm banking on a rejuvenated and rebuilt Mingo. He and Kruger in the right defensive scheme will work pretty well. I'm also thinking we have a young couple of guys that we've not really tapped into yet.. Nate Orchard?
Well, this is good in theory....and you should be right about it....our former 1st and 2d round pick OLBs SHOULD put pressure on the passer....but I certainly cannot count on Mingo at this point.....so I just want more to go along with Orchard, Mingo, Kruger.
If the Browns stay at 8, I see them taking a Bosa or Buckner, whomever is still on the board.
The Offensive Line will be stout with moving McGovern to ROT. He's versatile and could go to G or OT, I'll work him at the RT spot and go: Thomas, Bitonio, Erving, Greco, McGovernYea, No, I am not relying on a rookie OG to move to Tackle. That, to me, is a recipe for failure.
Zeke would be the de facto Starter. Duke would be the change of pace back. Marshall would come in when Zeke needs a rest. This would be a great stable of RB's to compete. They are all young and should have the RB spots covered for several years to come. Marshall would be an upgrade over Crowell. He's got another gear few players have.
I don't see this guy replacing the Crow. If they were to take him, he would be in the mix to be the 4th string RB instead of Winston/Mostert. Can he return kicks?
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Gordon...
He'll reapply for reinstatement in August. Provided there is no more red flags he should be reinstated promptly. He should be ready for preseason. He's been staying in great shape and will play like a man possessed when he is given the chance again. I'm counting on him, I trust that he knows what is at stake. Griffin to Gordon, all day - all day.
Gordon...
He'll reapply for reinstatement in August. Provided there is no more red flags he should be reinstated promptly. He should be ready for preseason. He's been staying in great shape and will play like a man possessed when he is given the chance again. I'm counting on him, I trust that he knows what is at stake. Griffin to Gordon, all day - all day.
He hasn't stayed clean knowing the consequences. Can't count on it happening going forward.
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Gordon...
He'll reapply for reinstatement in August. Provided there is no more red flags he should be reinstated promptly. He should be ready for preseason. He's been staying in great shape and will play like a man possessed when he is given the chance again. I'm counting on him, I trust that he knows what is at stake. Griffin to Gordon, all day - all day.
He hasn't stayed clean knowing the consequences. Can't count on it happening going forward.
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