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So You're Saying There's a BETTER Chance...

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  • Tour2ma Tour2maT In Memoriam Dedicated Conversation Starter Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done Very Popular
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    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    Draft improved our Vegas Super Bowl odds from 150:1 to 100:1... biggest improvement in the league.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25575853/team-with-most-improved-post-draft-super-bowl-51-odds-will-shock-you

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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      We will contend in 2017

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        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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        possible deep playoff run in year 8 or so....fooling yourselves if you think it's going to happen any sooner.

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          darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by
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          There is a chance we have the number 1 pick next year where we take DeShaun Watson our other pick could be anywhere ...... is there an elite CB group coming out next year ?....that could be the position we need to look at for that pick or an OT with Thomas getting up in age

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            miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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            let's hope horton can get some production out of these defensive picks from farmer that we all fell in love with last year................and gilbert and mingo and krueger etc. etc. etc.

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              let's hope horton can get some production out of these defensive picks from farmer that we all fell in love with last year................and gilbert and mingo and krueger etc. etc. etc.

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              The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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              @miktoxic said:

              let's hope horton can get some production out of these defensive picks from farmer that we all fell in love with last year................and gilbert and mingo and krueger etc. etc. etc.

              Getting rid of Jim O'Neil I believe was a step in the direction you want to go. Horton may not be perfect....but he has to be a hell of a lot better than that slouch.

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                darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by
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                All the new receivers will benefit from having the best wide receiver coach in football coaching them .....

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                  @miktoxic said:

                  let's hope horton can get some production out of these defensive picks from farmer that we all fell in love with last year................and gilbert and mingo and krueger etc. etc. etc.

                  Getting rid of Jim O'Neil I believe was a step in the direction you want to go. Horton may not be perfect....but he has to be a hell of a lot better than that slouch.

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                  miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                  @the-gipper said:

                  Getting rid of Jim O'Neil I believe was a step in the direction you want to go. Horton may not be perfect....but he has to be a hell of a lot better than that slouch.

                  yep. i guess pettine let loyalty cloud his vision as o'neill sucked ass.

                  i know there are schemes involved and yada yada but WHEN will these DCs just draft people and let them play the way they've always played instead of trying to change them into something they're not?

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                    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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                    we could very well be picking another DE/OLB'er with the first pick next year guys.

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                      @miktoxic said:

                      let's hope horton can get some production out of these defensive picks from farmer that we all fell in love with last year................and gilbert and mingo and krueger etc. etc. etc.

                      Getting rid of Jim O'Neil I believe was a step in the direction you want to go. Horton may not be perfect....but he has to be a hell of a lot better than that slouch.

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                      @the-gipper said:

                      Getting rid of Jim O'Neil I believe was a step in the direction you want to go. Horton may not be perfect....but he has to be a hell of a lot better than that slouch.

                      How he walked straight into another job is one of lifes mysteries

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                        @the-gipper said:

                        Getting rid of Jim O'Neil I believe was a step in the direction you want to go. Horton may not be perfect....but he has to be a hell of a lot better than that slouch.

                        How he walked straight into another job is one of lifes mysteries

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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                        @londonbrown said:

                        How he walked straight into another job is one of lifes mysteries

                        Indeed.

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                          possible deep playoff run in year 8 or so....fooling yourselves if you think it's going to happen any sooner.

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                          StinkHoleS StinkHole wrote on last edited by
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                          @clevfan4life said:

                          possible deep playoff run in year 8 or so....fooling yourselves if you think it's going to happen any sooner.

                          The first part of your sentence is your opinion...but no one is fooling themselves if they believe the browns can do it 4 you dickwad.

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                            Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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                            Contention in 2017 seems like a stretch. Competitiveness in 2017 seems possible, but without having seen our 2016 team play even it is certainly not a given.

                            2018? Earliest I'd expect anticipate a playoff appearance... followed by a quick exit.

                            "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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                              we could very well be picking another DE/OLB'er with the first pick next year guys.

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                              @clevfan4life said:

                              we could very well be picking another DE/OLB'er with the first pick next year guys.

                              Myles Garrett or Fornette the RB have to be considered as one of the two 1st rounders if we go QB.

                              http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/2017-nfl-draft-players-to-watch-leonard-fournette-deshaun-watson-050216

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                                D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
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                                There'll be a lot of pleasantly surprised people here this year......... Chasin' 8-8 all year, and probably falling 1 game short.

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                                  There'll be a lot of pleasantly surprised people here this year......... Chasin' 8-8 all year, and probably falling 1 game short.

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                                  @d-bone said:

                                  There'll be a lot of pleasantly surprised people here this year......... Chasin' 8-8 all year, and probably falling 1 game short.

                                  Na nu Na nu.

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                                    @clevfan4life said:

                                    we could very well be picking another DE/OLB'er with the first pick next year guys.

                                    Myles Garrett or Fornette the RB have to be considered as one of the two 1st rounders if we go QB.

                                    http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/2017-nfl-draft-players-to-watch-leonard-fournette-deshaun-watson-050216

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                                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                    @texasag1969 said:

                                    Myles Garrett or Fornette the RB have to be considered as one of the two 1st rounders if we go QB.

                                    http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/2017-nfl-draft-players-to-watch-leonard-fournette-deshaun-watson-050216

                                    Well, again, you have to take this with a grain of salt. Early predictions about next years draft would be foolish.

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                                      @texasag1969 said:

                                      Myles Garrett or Fornette the RB have to be considered as one of the two 1st rounders if we go QB.

                                      http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/2017-nfl-draft-players-to-watch-leonard-fournette-deshaun-watson-050216

                                      Well, again, you have to take this with a grain of salt. Early predictions about next years draft would be foolish.

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                                      @the-gipper said:

                                      Well, again, you have to take this with a grain of salt. Early predictions about next years draft would be foolish.

                                      OK-so here are the early QB's http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/25574787/the-top-10-qbs-well-be-talking-about-before-the-2017-nfl-draft

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                                        @the-gipper said:

                                        Well, again, you have to take this with a grain of salt. Early predictions about next years draft would be foolish.

                                        OK-so here are the early QB's http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/25574787/the-top-10-qbs-well-be-talking-about-before-the-2017-nfl-draft

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                                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                        @texasag1969 said:

                                        OK-so here are the early QB's http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/25574787/the-top-10-qbs-well-be-talking-about-before-the-2017-nfl-draft

                                        And it wouldn't surprise me if one or two of the guys that were ranked here in the 10-15 range actually become the top draftable guys next year.

                                        For last year, maybe Goff would have been considered a top 10 guy.....but Lynch and Wentz weren't by any means.

                                        Show me a preseason evaluation from last year that had those guys amongst like the Top 5 QBs to be available in this draft.

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                                          @texasag1969 said:

                                          OK-so here are the early QB's http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/25574787/the-top-10-qbs-well-be-talking-about-before-the-2017-nfl-draft

                                          And it wouldn't surprise me if one or two of the guys that were ranked here in the 10-15 range actually become the top draftable guys next year.

                                          For last year, maybe Goff would have been considered a top 10 guy.....but Lynch and Wentz weren't by any means.

                                          Show me a preseason evaluation from last year that had those guys amongst like the Top 5 QBs to be available in this draft.

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                                          gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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                                          @the-gipper said:

                                          And it wouldn't surprise me if one or two of the guys that were ranked here in the 10-15 range actually become the top draftable guys next year.

                                          For last year, maybe Goff would have been considered a top 10 guy.....but Lynch and Wentz weren't by any means.

                                          Show me a preseason evaluation from last year that had those guys amongst like the Top 5 QBs to be available in this draft.

                                          http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2452702-2016-nfl-mock-draft-matt-millers-early-1st-round-predictions/page/20

                                          Drafted QBs:

                                          Hackenberg

                                          Cook

                                          Jones

                                          Goff

                                          Just an example, as requested.

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