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  • Let's say just for kicks.

    We draft Trubisky and Fournette. We resign Pryor and we get Gordon Back. We can draft either Pocic or Elflein at the top of the second round.

    QB- Trubisky, Kessler

    RB- Fournette, Johnson, Humphrey

    WR- Gordon, Pryor, Coleman, Higgins

    OL- Thomas, Bitonio, Elflein, Erving, Paztor

    I think that would be a really strong offensive unit.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @poeticg said:

    Let's say just for kicks.

    We draft Trubisky and Fournette. We resign Pryor and we get Gordon Back. We can draft either Pocic or Elflein at the top of the second round.

    QB- Trubisky, Kessler

    RB- Fournette, Johnson, Humphrey

    WR- Gordon, Pryor, Coleman, Higgins

    OL- Thomas, Bitonio, Elflein, Erving, Paztor

    I think that would be a really strong offensive unit.

    That is all well and good.....but.....what about the defense, which is still the weakest part of this team.

  • @poeticg said:

    Let's say just for kicks.

    We draft Trubisky and Fournette. We resign Pryor and we get Gordon Back. We can draft either Pocic or Elflein at the top of the second round.

    QB- Trubisky, Kessler

    RB- Fournette, Johnson, Humphrey

    WR- Gordon, Pryor, Coleman, Higgins

    OL- Thomas, Bitonio, Elflein, Erving, Paztor

    I think that would be a really strong offensive unit.

    That is all well and good.....but.....what about the defense, which is still the weakest part of this team.

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by

    @the-gipper said:

    That is all well and good.....but.....what about the defense, which is still the weakest part of this team.

    and THAT is why we dont go QB early......plain and simple,,,,

  • @the-gipper said:

    That is all well and good.....but.....what about the defense, which is still the weakest part of this team.

    and THAT is why we dont go QB early......plain and simple,,,,

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel

    @mudfly said:

    and THAT is why we dont go QB early......plain and simple,,,,

    Ask Jax about how inventing something that doesn't exist (football messiah at QB) has worked via spending their 3rd overall pick on Blake Bortles. Their HC has already been fired...

  • PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by

    Just saying, the Defense looked good yesterday. We're looking at a lot of impact players entering their second year, hopefully they make the jump. They will be in the second year of their system and with a little continuity they could have an impact.

    Watch this...

    If we get the QB #1 and lose out on Garrett, we can still get Hall a little later.

    But, if we're going to move forward we need a QB that can stabilize the position. McCown is getting old, Griffin and Kessler are not the answer... Trubisky looks like he could be the real deal. The kid is a heck of a QB. His highlight reels show all tools that you're looking for in a QB. He's tall, he has an accurate rocket arm and can make plays with his feet.

    Just watch this bowl game highlight. Yeah, they end up losing the game but he gave them a chance to win. I went back and watched all of games in which they lost this year. He wasn't the reason when they lost, and if he did have a mistake he battled back and gave them a chance to pull out the win.

  • PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by

    Mitch Trubisky throws such an amazing deep ball! I love the angle and the velocity on his throws... almost looks like that ball is going to go on forever!

    Then you find a way to take this monster to take over for Crowell and we have an allstar offense.

    If we want to change our fortunes, let's get these guys and people will be forced to fear playing the Browns. I believe in our Defense... our Offense needs and identity, this would accomplish that.

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by

    As much as SEC teams doubled teamed and ran away from Garrett all year long, Hall should have had a better year on the other side of the D. But he didn't. He is late round at best.

  • @the-gipper said:

    That is all well and good.....but.....what about the defense, which is still the weakest part of this team.

    and THAT is why we dont go QB early......plain and simple,,,,

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @mudfly said:

    and THAT is why we dont go QB early......plain and simple,,,,

    What POG wanted was for Browns to take all offense with our first and 2d round. That is what I disagreed with.

    No....I think we NEED to go QB at #1.....but with the next 3 picks we go for 2 on defense and an OL.

  • Just saying, the Defense looked good yesterday. We're looking at a lot of impact players entering their second year, hopefully they make the jump. They will be in the second year of their system and with a little continuity they could have an impact.

    Watch this...

    If we get the QB #1 and lose out on Garrett, we can still get Hall a little later.

    But, if we're going to move forward we need a QB that can stabilize the position. McCown is getting old, Griffin and Kessler are not the answer... Trubisky looks like he could be the real deal. The kid is a heck of a QB. His highlight reels show all tools that you're looking for in a QB. He's tall, he has an accurate rocket arm and can make plays with his feet.

    Just watch this bowl game highlight. Yeah, they end up losing the game but he gave them a chance to win. I went back and watched all of games in which they lost this year. He wasn't the reason when they lost, and if he did have a mistake he battled back and gave them a chance to pull out the win.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @poeticg said:

    Just saying, the Defense looked good yesterday. We're looking at a lot of impact players entering their second year, hopefully they make the jump. They will be in the second year of their system and with a little continuity they could have an impact.

    Watch this...

    If we get the QB #1 and lose out on Garrett, we can still get Hall a little later.

    But, if we're going to move forward we need a QB that can stabilize the position. McCown is getting old, Griffin and Kessler are not the answer... Trubisky looks like he could be the real deal. The kid is a heck of a QB. His highlight reels show all tools that you're looking for in a QB. He's tall, he has an accurate rocket arm and can make plays with his feet.

    Just watch this bowl game highlight. Yeah, they end up losing the game but he gave them a chance to win. I went back and watched all of games in which they lost this year. He wasn't the reason when they lost, and if he did have a mistake he battled back and gave them a chance to pull out the win.

    Looked like he had Cam Erving playing center for him on the 2 pointer. Hopefully...to my mind, we take Trub and an OC to go with him: Elflein/Pocic.

  • Mitch Trubisky throws such an amazing deep ball! I love the angle and the velocity on his throws... almost looks like that ball is going to go on forever!

    Then you find a way to take this monster to take over for Crowell and we have an allstar offense.

    If we want to change our fortunes, let's get these guys and people will be forced to fear playing the Browns. I believe in our Defense... our Offense needs and identity, this would accomplish that.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @poeticg said:

    Mitch Trubisky throws such an amazing deep ball! I love the angle and the velocity on his throws... almost looks like that ball is going to go on forever!

    Then you find a way to take this monster to take over for Crowell and we have an allstar offense.

    If we want to change our fortunes, let's get these guys and people will be forced to fear playing the Browns. I believe in our Defense... our Offense needs and identity, this would accomplish that.

    I don't think that Fournette has any better of a future prospect in this league than Crowell does. Not at all.

  • PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by

    If Crowell was as good as Fournette... Duke Johnson would never see the field. 🙂

  • @poeticg said:

    Mitch Trubisky throws such an amazing deep ball! I love the angle and the velocity on his throws... almost looks like that ball is going to go on forever!

    Then you find a way to take this monster to take over for Crowell and we have an allstar offense.

    If we want to change our fortunes, let's get these guys and people will be forced to fear playing the Browns. I believe in our Defense... our Offense needs and identity, this would accomplish that.

    I don't think that Fournette has any better of a future prospect in this league than Crowell does. Not at all.

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel

    @the-gipper said:

    I don't think that Fournette has any better of a future prospect in this league than Crowell does. Not at all.

    I agree Gips. Crow was Freshman of the year in the SEC at UGA and he's had some really good games behind our offensive line this year. He'll get even better any time we can throw the forward pass with any degree of consistency as yesterday depicted.

  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by

    Can someone explain to me why some folks here even have fournette on the brain? Why? If there wasvanything on this team thst gives me any modicum of hope its the running game with duke and crow. Im not a fournette hater but we've gotbthe worst defense in football....theres honestly not a position on the entire defense that is locked up. We talk about the front 7 mostly but jesus that secondary needs all kinds of help.

    Please for the love of god.....no more talk about RB's. Its almost giving the team absolutely no credit and thats such a slit ur wrist mentality. The running gamevis showing serious f'ing promise, now think what the running game could be if our o line gets addressed through FA or the draft.....

  • R RoyceRolls wrote on last edited by

    75% of that highlight tape is Fournette running through massive holes

  • Can someone explain to me why some folks here even have fournette on the brain? Why? If there wasvanything on this team thst gives me any modicum of hope its the running game with duke and crow. Im not a fournette hater but we've gotbthe worst defense in football....theres honestly not a position on the entire defense that is locked up. We talk about the front 7 mostly but jesus that secondary needs all kinds of help.

    Please for the love of god.....no more talk about RB's. Its almost giving the team absolutely no credit and thats such a slit ur wrist mentality. The running gamevis showing serious f'ing promise, now think what the running game could be if our o line gets addressed through FA or the draft.....

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by

    @clevfan4life said:

    Can someone explain to me why some folks here even have fournette on the brain? Why? If there wasvanything on this team thst gives me any modicum of hope its the running game with duke and crow. Im not a fournette hater but we've gotbthe worst defense in football....theres honestly not a position on the entire defense that is locked up. We talk about the front 7 mostly but jesus that secondary needs all kinds of help.

    Please for the love of god.....no more talk about RB's. Its almost giving the team absolutely no credit and thats such a slit ur wrist mentality. The running gamevis showing serious f'ing promise, now think what the running game could be if our o line gets addressed through FA or the draft.....

    Good idea.

  • 75% of that highlight tape is Fournette running through massive holes

    PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by

    @roycerolls said:

    75% of that highlight tape is Fournette running through massive holes

    Indeed, but what I see is he doesn't get caught from behind. Besides, it's the other 25% of the plays when things do break down and he does it on his own, that is where I see the need in Cleveland.

  • Can someone explain to me why some folks here even have fournette on the brain? Why? If there wasvanything on this team thst gives me any modicum of hope its the running game with duke and crow. Im not a fournette hater but we've gotbthe worst defense in football....theres honestly not a position on the entire defense that is locked up. We talk about the front 7 mostly but jesus that secondary needs all kinds of help.

    Please for the love of god.....no more talk about RB's. Its almost giving the team absolutely no credit and thats such a slit ur wrist mentality. The running gamevis showing serious f'ing promise, now think what the running game could be if our o line gets addressed through FA or the draft.....

    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by

    @clevfan4life said:

    Can someone explain to me why some folks here even have fournette on the brain? Why?

    Because they think by drafting him we'll become the Cowboys over night. Nevermind having quality skill players, the best Oline in the NFL, a capable QB, and stable front office/coaching staff.

  • If Crowell was as good as Fournette... Duke Johnson would never see the field. 🙂

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper

    @poeticg said:

    If Crowell was as good as Fournette... Duke Johnson would never see the field. 🙂

    You have just fallen in love again PoG.

    Look, my advocacy for Trubisky is the same as why I wanted Bosa last year: a top player filling a desperate team need.

    Purely logical.

    I see Fournette as no better than Dalvin Cook and some others.

    And this may be the LAST position of need on this team. So, so, so much more is needed on this team before we go looking for a running back.

  • tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by

    Like I said in the other thread. The top player in a weak draft class.

    You're addressing the position for the sake of it at that point.

    Would you take Aaron Donald, or Blake Bortles??

  • Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by

    MKC tweeted. . .

    #Browns Brown on Pryor and Collins: "Our plan on both of those players is to try to extend them without using the (franchise) tag''

  • Like I said in the other thread. The top player in a weak draft class.

    You're addressing the position for the sake of it at that point.

    Would you take Aaron Donald, or Blake Bortles??

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by

    @tiamat63 said:

    Like I said in the other thread. The top player in a weak draft class.

    You're addressing the position for the sake of it at that point.

    Would you take Aaron Donald, or Blake Bortles??

    Who are you talking to? PoG re Fournette?