Draft Talk
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And if Kessler continues to get better for the reminder of the season despite the OL problems, then selecting a QB matters not either.
I agree Ag. I've posted it in other threads. How Kessler does the rest of the season will play a huge role how the Browns 2017 draft unfolds. So it's too early to speculate. Other than the D needs some serious help.
I agree Ag. I've posted it in other threads. How Kessler does the rest of the season will play a huge role how the Browns 2017 draft unfolds. So it's too early to speculate. Other than the D needs some serious help.
Agreed , But I would also say.. Cam Erving blows.. O-Line could use a good tweak , too!
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Kid is sucking wind after the first drive.
Meanwhile Allen has produced a pressure and I as I type, a sack.
#93 is still my preference.
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Garrett is clearly not 100%. Hasn't mounted anything near a QB pressure. Handled a couple times by Howard in PassPro.
Still I've been impressed with his awareness (covering the RB release for a screen near end of 1st Bama drive) and stacking and shedding the LT on a run stuff in Q2.
That said... I'd wouldn't mind drafting the Bama front seven... and their RB, Harris (pre-concussion)... and their TE/H-back, Howard.
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I mentioned Garrett attacking outside too often as opposed to ripping back inside. On that fake sweep QB counter he walked himself right out of the play and I feel like he does that quite a bit. Nearly surrendered a TD.
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So...I really like Allen.
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Trubisky quietly put up 300 yards 3 td and an 80% comp rate
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Garrett is clearly not 100%. Hasn't mounted anything near a QB pressure. Handled a couple times by Howard in PassPro.
Still I've been impressed with his awareness (covering the RB release for a screen near end of 1st Bama drive) and stacking and shedding the LT on a run stuff in Q2.
That said... I'd wouldn't mind drafting the Bama front seven... and their RB, Harris (pre-concussion)... and their TE/H-back, Howard.
Garrett is clearly not 100%. Hasn't mounted anything near a QB pressure. Handled a couple times by Howard in PassPro.
Still I've been impressed with his awareness (covering the RB release for a screen near end of 1st Bama drive) and stacking and shedding the LT on a run stuff in Q2.
That said... I'd wouldn't mind drafting the Bama front seven... and their RB, Harris (pre-concussion)... and their TE/H-back, Howard.
Garret will be fine once that high ankle sprain is fully healed. Those things sometimes linger through a whole season. They left him home for the S.C. game. Hope they let him off for New Mex State next week.
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Garrett created a lot of pressure and he did it against what will be a first rounder THIS year. Also a 3 year starter.
Allen is awesome but he's going against a 3 star true freshman who not an Aggie in the world can figure out why is still starting.
Context people.
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So none of the QB's are really separating themselves from the pack. As in right now no QB looks like they will actually be worth the 1st overall pick, but maybe instead the 5th or 10th, so on so forth. What everyone needs to keep in mind is that we are only half way through the college season. Every year one or two QB prospects come out of now where to end up being first round picks. Now are those prospects always good? No, but it just goes to show that even though there isn't a true #1 QB being pointed out right now, there is a decent chance there will be one by the end of the season.
So none of the QB's are really separating themselves from the pack. As in right now no QB looks like they will actually be worth the 1st overall pick, but maybe instead the 5th or 10th, so on so forth. What everyone needs to keep in mind is that we are only half way through the college season. Every year one or two QB prospects come out of now where to end up being first round picks. Now are those prospects always good? No, but it just goes to show that even though there isn't a true #1 QB being pointed out right now, there is a decent chance there will be one by the end of the season.
Tribisky?
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Trubisky quietly put up 300 yards 3 td and an 80% comp rate
Trubisky quietly put up 300 yards 3 td and an 80% comp rate
He could end up being the Carson Wentz of next years draft. A guy not given much consideration....but they shoots up the rankings like a rocket.
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Garrett created a lot of pressure and he did it against what will be a first rounder THIS year. Also a 3 year starter.
Allen is awesome but he's going against a 3 star true freshman who not an Aggie in the world can figure out why is still starting.
Context people.
Garrett created a lot of pressure and he did it against what will be a first rounder THIS year. Also a 3 year starter.
Allen is awesome but he's going against a 3 star true freshman who not an Aggie in the world can figure out why is still starting.
Context people.
Rewatched the game last night. MG was excellent against the run but definitely didn't create pressure consistently until the 4th quarter. However, I think you can tell by his lack of pursuit at times that his injury is still bothering him quite a bit.
Allen is an animal looking for meat. So is their entire D, of course. I've graded the OL in all 6 of our P5 games. Some great DL in there. Adams and Lawson from Auburn, Vanderdoes from UCLA, Barnett and Vereen at Tennessee, Wise at Arkansas. Nobody has the raw talent and strength Alabama does. We have a pretty good center and RG. They're both country boys. Oxen strong. They got tossed around like rag dolls all day in Tuscaloosa.
We can take anyone in that front 7 and I'd be giddy. Allen, Williams, Foster, Anderson, Hand, Payne, Tomlinson. Any one.
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Question for people:
- Assuming we win a game and end up picking second somehow (because the browns suck so much they even suck at sucking);
- Assuming Cody Kessler (or someone?) shows enough to convince us he's the guy to build around as QB;
- Assuming Myles Garrett goes first overall;
Who are you looking at?
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Question for people:
- Assuming we win a game and end up picking second somehow (because the browns suck so much they even suck at sucking);
- Assuming Cody Kessler (or someone?) shows enough to convince us he's the guy to build around as QB;
- Assuming Myles Garrett goes first overall;
Who are you looking at?
Question for people:
- Assuming we win a game and end up picking second somehow (because the browns suck so much they even suck at sucking);
- Assuming Cody Kessler (or someone?) shows enough to convince us he's the guy to build around as QB;
- Assuming Myles Garrett goes first overall;
Who are you looking at?
Here is the current CBS Sports Top Ten prospect ranks:
1 Myles Garrett DE 1 Texas A&M Jr 6-5 262 1
2 Jabrill Peppers SS 1 Michigan rSo 6-0 208 1
3 Jonathan Allen DE 2 Alabama Sr 6-3 291 1
4 Leonard Fournette RB 1 LSU Jr 6-1 230 1
5 Teez Tabor CB 1 Florida Jr 6-0 199 1
6 Malik McDowell DT 1 Michigan State Jr 6-5 282 1
7 Mitch Trubisky QB 1 North Carolina rJr 6-3 220 1
8 Cam Robinson OT 1 Alabama Jr 6-6 310 1
9 Jamal Adams SS 2 LSU Jr 6-0 211 1
10 Tim Williams OLB 1 Alabama Sr 6-3 252 1
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Question for people:
- Assuming we win a game and end up picking second somehow (because the browns suck so much they even suck at sucking);
- Assuming Cody Kessler (or someone?) shows enough to convince us he's the guy to build around as QB;
- Assuming Myles Garrett goes first overall;
Who are you looking at?
Question for people:
- Assuming we win a game and end up picking second somehow (because the browns suck so much they even suck at sucking);
- Assuming Cody Kessler (or someone?) shows enough to convince us he's the guy to build around as QB;
- Assuming Myles Garrett goes first overall;
Who are you looking at?
AS of now... It's hard for me to see a team (us) who desires to have a 3-4 D passing on Allen, BUT...
Who is that on the other end of the phone that is ringing?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Question for people:
- Assuming we win a game and end up picking second somehow (because the browns suck so much they even suck at sucking);
- Assuming Cody Kessler (or someone?) shows enough to convince us he's the guy to build around as QB;
- Assuming Myles Garrett goes first overall;
Who are you looking at?
AS of now... It's hard for me to see a team (us) who desires to have a 3-4 D passing on Allen, BUT...
Who is that on the other end of the phone that is ringing?
AS of now... It's hard for me to see a team (us) who desires to have a 3-4 D passing on Allen, BUT...
Who is that on the other end of the phone that is ringing?
After the Jets decided to go with Hackenburg, they just kept piling on that front seven with Myles Garrett.
The browns are picking second, and on the other end of the phone, it's the chicago bears, offering their No 5 pick, along with their first rounder next year, and their third rounder this year, in exchange for our No2 pick.
Go.
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In related news, who gets cut at the end of this year, whose contract gets renewed, and who gets rewarded? For me I see:
Cut or not renewed - Williams, Taylor, Poyer, Hawkins, Bailey, RG3, Pasztor, Paea, Lemonier
Renew - Pryor, Crowell (could be RFA tagged), Colquitt, Meder (ERFA)
for reference:
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/cleveland-browns/
There's a bunch of scrubby ERFAs at the bottom that will end up as camp fodder for sure but not make the roster next year.
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AS of now... It's hard for me to see a team (us) who desires to have a 3-4 D passing on Allen, BUT...
Who is that on the other end of the phone that is ringing?
After the Jets decided to go with Hackenburg, they just kept piling on that front seven with Myles Garrett.
The browns are picking second, and on the other end of the phone, it's the chicago bears, offering their No 5 pick, along with their first rounder next year, and their third rounder this year, in exchange for our No2 pick.
Go.
After the Jets decided to go with Hackenburg, they just kept piling on that front seven with Myles Garrett.
The browns are picking second, and on the other end of the phone, it's the chicago bears, offering their No 5 pick, along with their first rounder next year, and their third rounder this year, in exchange for our No2 pick.
Deal! http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/pages/the-harvard-trade-value-chart
In related news, who gets cut at the end of this year, whose contract gets renewed, and who gets rewarded? For me I see:
Cut or not renewed - Williams, Taylor, Poyer, Hawkins, Bailey, RG3, Pasztor, Paea, Lemonier
Renew - Pryor, Crowell (could be RFA tagged), Colquitt, Meder (ERFA)
Are you on the fence with Winston?
Our IR list just would not be the same without him...I'll defend Bailey and Paz. The former has back-filled well for both Greco and Bito at OG. The latter filled in well last year for Bito after the Cam experiment; he is simply not a viable candidate to play on the end of the line. Entirely possible that one or the other ends up getting caught in a numbers game before the end of camp, but both are worthy of a resign.
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