Ogbahs leading us in sacks...

TexasAg1969

@clevfan4life said:
Honestly id rather see nassib develop on the other side thsn drafting another undersized DE who we're gonna fuck with trying to find his fit

LOL! 6'5" 270 with no fat and 4.5 speed is not undersized (nor under-talented). They call those kinds of players "difference makers".

Edit: Jadeveon Clowney 6'6" 267 4.5 speed is doing just fine now after injury recovery, even without JJ Watt on the other side. There is the best comparison.

Clevfan4life

Thats the smallest 270 ive ever seen. I mean cmon ogbah weighs around that and look at his build.

http://imgix.scout.com/121/1211903.jpg?w=227

http://cdn-s3.si.com/s3fs-public/2015/07/28/garrett-mid-thamel.jpg

Hard to imagine thats 270

Clevfan4life

Maybe he's got that thick black booty though and its all in his ass and legs, i dunno. Kids jacked for sure and id love to have him but not at the expense of og and nas. And mot at the expense of other pieces we need. He needs more dev time in the nfl than people think

gftChris

@clevfan4life said:

Thats the smallest 270 ive ever seen. I mean cmon ogbah weighs around that and look at his build.

http://imgix.scout.com/121/1211903.jpg?w=227

http://cdn-s3.si.com/s3fs-public/2015/07/28/garrett-mid-thamel.jpg

Hard to imagine thats 270

As you know, muscle weighs more than fat. Basically no fat on that body, and hopefully, unlike Clowney, Garrett actually has thick legs as well.

Clevfan4life

@gftchris said:
As you know, muscle weighs more than fat. Basically no fat on that body, and hopefully, unlike Clowney, Garrett actually has thick legs as well.

Does og look fat to you? Og looks easily 15-20 lbs heavier than garett and og is pure muscle.

gftChris

Not really, but then again you're only basing the 'he can't weigh that much' on him not looking as big as he should to you, and nothing more. So I'll wait until the combine to actually get the results.

Clevfan4life

We know college teams fudge their players stats. In ant case from what little ive seen he doesnt come off as that field strong. But he is battling injuries so whatev. Like i said i wouldnt mind him but over other needs? We have two promising edge players now and should get orch back in a week or so

gftChris

Not sure we'll get Orchard back but who knows. We seem to be playing a decent amount of four man fronts, so I'm intrigued to see how he does there.

Garrett looks like he has a pretty mean bull rush from the videos I've watched.

wargograw

Jonathan Allen baby.

gftChris

It's all good, Collins can play everywhere. We're going O for the first 4 draft picks.

Tour2ma

@clevfan4life said:
Thats the smallest 270 ive ever seen.

Agree... One of the great things about the Combine... true heights and weights.

gftChris

@tour2ma said:

Agree... One of the great things about the Combine... true heights and weights.

And that all important hand size, don't forget.

LogicIsForSquares

@wargograw said:
Jonathan Allen baby.

God I hope so.

Clevfan4life

@gftchris said:

Garrett looks like he has a pretty mean bull rush from the videos I've watched.

I keep hearing that too but yet to see it. At the end of tjebyear ill go back a couple seasons on him

Clevfan4life

@gftchris said:
And that all important hand size, don't forget.

Yeah if only that were true cause i have almost watts hand size

wargograw

@clevfan4life said:
I keep hearing that too but yet to see it. At the end of tjebyear ill go back a couple seasons on him

You won't see a bull rush prior to this season but it's there now. He had a great one against UCLA and their likely first round OT.

tiamat63

If Myles is 270 then I'm Chinese.

edit: Browns need to start throwing smoke and hyping Kizer otherwise nobody will trade up to the #1 spot. As much as I like Allen, he isn't a franchise QB and that's about all the first pick is reserved for save maybe a LT or pass rusher on rare occasion.

wargograw

@tiamat63 said:

If Myles is 270 then I'm Chinese.

edit: Browns need to start throwing smoke and hyping Kizer otherwise nobody will trade up to the #1 spot. As much as I like Allen, he isn't a franchise QB and that's about all the first pick is reserved for save maybe a LT or pass rusher on rare occasion.

Agree on all counts. Of course some will complain about the trade back.

gftChris

@tiamat63 said:

If Myles is 270 then I'm Chinese.

edit: Browns need to start throwing smoke and hyping Kizer otherwise nobody will trade up to the #1 spot. As much as I like Allen, he isn't a franchise QB and that's about all the first pick is reserved for save maybe a LT or pass rusher on rare occasion.

Apart from Clowney in 2014? He's playing the same position as Allen unless I'm mistaken.

jiggins7919

Myles was listed at 262, last time I checked, but I'm always skeptical about "college stats". The real numbers come from the NFL combine, but I CAN tell you that Myles is BIG. Very big, and very fast. In a recent article, Myles said he expects to run a "4.5 40 yard dash." That time, for a DE/OLB who is 6'5 and 262, is near mythical. I would expect something closer to 4.65, which is STILL absurd. The best thing about Myles is that he's not a one-trick pony, as he excels against the run as well. We lock up Collins through contract or tag, draft Myles, and all of the sudden our front 7 is starting to come together. I'm not so sure we can get an entirely new secondary in one offseason, but we need to try. LOL

I like Ogbah, and I want him to play well. Unfortunately, we needed him to make a big play in the second half and he didn't do it. Nobody really did, so it wasn't just him. Forced fumble, strip sack...SOMETHING. We needed SOMETHING to stop the prolific bleeding, and nobody could do it. Nassib again displayed his ability to get hands on balls, but true to form, our defense couldn't pick any of the deflections off. That's the kind of thing our defense NEEDS, and just doesn't get.