Debunking common football 'knowledge'

Furious Styles

@roycerolls said:
1 playoff win out of ten seasons of teams throwing to AJ Green or Julio Jones. Sounds fool-proof

Sounds like a better plan than 0-4 preseason 0-7 regular season. Not foolproof but 11× better than 0-11. You're talking playoff wins ?.....how about winning ONE pre or regular season game FIRST ?

Mudfly

Youre both right.....

@roycerolls said:
1 playoff win out of ten seasons of teams throwing to AJ Green or Julio Jones. Sounds fool-proof

Im in the WR's are accessories camp......cant thing of one example where adding a WR was the difference.....nor can I think of a recent SB champion that had a great one(that made a difference)....Seattle? Denver? NE?.....nope.....

Defense......

@furious-styles said:
Sounds like a better plan than 0-4 preseason 0-7 regular season. Not foolproof but 11× better than 0-11. You're talking playoff wins ?.....how about winning ONE pre or regular season game FIRST ?

Im in this camp too......0-11 is unbelievably bad.....horrible.....blech

I remember being told(repeatedly) that "just changing the coach will get us 4 more wins"..........HA!....

0-11....just turrible....

mjp28

Does this remind anyone of 1999 again and the amazing win over New Orleans led by Tim Couch to get the one and only win that year, 1-15?

Actually this team does have better talent or potential or whatever even with 18 rookies but let a few wins slip by earlier. Hopefully with a favorable end of year schedule might help if they have any standing QBs left.

So what's the basic football 101 knowledge missing ingredients on this team? QB even though the "fill-ins" have played good enough to complete. Receivers have been adequate with a healthy Pryor, RBs OK with Crowell. Defense has been spotty, really miss a healthy old Haden.

.....so it must be what's up front, the lines.

Mudfly

@mjp28 said:

So what's the basic football 101 knowledge missing ingredients on this team? QB even though the "fill-ins" have played good enough to complete. Receivers have been adequate with a healthy Pryor, RBs OK with Crowell. Defense has been spotty, really miss a healthy old Haden.

.....so it must be what's up front, the lines.

Defense needs help everywhere.....not one solid group on the team.....O needs a QB and linemen.......and the next TE....

Orion

@mudfly said:
Defense needs help everywhere.....not one solid group on the team.....O needs a QB and linemen.......and the next TE....

All true....but there aren't enough quality guys to throw the ball to....and that muddies the waters in evaluating Kessler's future potential.

Opal312

Odds are they win a game this year. What they really need is a great draft! No more excuses! Get a franchise player for once! How many have we passed on in recent drafts? The season is awful but we can expect the Front Office to trade away their top picks.

gftChris

@orion said:
All true....but there aren't enough quality guys to throw the ball to....and that muddies the waters in evaluating Kessler's future potential.

When everyone is healthy, there are enough targets, with Coleman, Pryor, Barnidge and Duke. Problem is, you can't have them all on the field every down.

We really need to see more of Higgings and Payton before we go spending big picks on receivers, and Louis needs to show that he can get himself open and catch the ball. A lot of his stuff seems (to my untrained eye) to have come when he's schemed open or there's a breakdown in coverage.

Mudfly

@orion said:
All true....but there aren't enough quality guys to throw the ball to....and that muddies the waters in evaluating Kessler's future potential.

What does that say about the 4 WR's and 1 TE we just drafted???........we dont need anymore WR's just to see how Kess throws the ball....(mostly very short weak passes).....

Either those 5 WR/TE picks were a complete waste or Kess aint the guy........

RoyceRolls

@furious-styles said:
Sounds like a better plan than 0-4 preseason 0-7 regular season. Not foolproof but 11× better than 0-11. You're talking playoff wins ?.....how about winning ONE pre or regular season game FIRST ?

So you believe adding Julio jones or AJ Green would keep the defense from giving up 30+ a game?

Don't get me wrong, either of those guys on the Browns would be awesome, but good receivers on a team with a horrific defense and an uncertain QB situation will never win consistently.

WRs are like windshield wipers. They are very important when it comes to your ability to drive, but no one worries about the windshield wipers on a car with no engine or transmission.

Tour2ma

@roycerolls said:
WRs are like windshield wipers. They are very important when it comes to your ability to drive, but no one worries about the windshield wipers on a car with no engine or transmission.

Were I still quoting individual posts...