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  • Ok I'm all for defending the moves but Pasztor is not better than Schwartz, at least on planet earth.

  • They need time to build a roster. We kbew this coming in, and we still know it. Hue is doing just fine. His worst move was bringing back Horton. Talk to me in 2018 if there's still bo improvement. Until then, you're just bitching to bitch... like women

    #Justsayin'

  • Not in pass pro at least.

    Wondering if Elflien will somehow be available as a high day 2 pick. Right now a pass rusher, DB and Center are my top wants.

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  • Over their entire careers.. maybe.

    This year? Not true.. Look under Tour's post history, he quotes from an article about how Pasztor has this year finally learned how to pass block... and combine that with the fact that Paz has always been nearly unstoppable as a run blocker... voila, complete RT package. Schwartz? Pass pro yes, run block not so much.

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    Not in pass pro at least.

    Wondering if Elflien will somehow be available as a high day 2 pick. Right now a pass rusher, DB and Center are my top wants.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Not in pass pro at least.

    Wondering if Elflien will somehow be available as a high day 2 pick. Right now a pass rusher, DB and Center are my top wants.

    have seen C-Elflien going as low as #47 & as high as # 62 in CBS. but hell yea we grab him at 33..Garrett or Allen TBD...Like Hooker or Jamal Adams from LSU with philly pick..Our Titians 2nd Rd. pick turning our way also..

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  • I just hope we don't go out and get a pure edge rusher that can't hold the point against the run.

  • U Unsympathetic

    Over their entire careers.. maybe.

    This year? Not true.. Look under Tour's post history, he quotes from an article about how Pasztor has this year finally learned how to pass block... and combine that with the fact that Paz has always been nearly unstoppable as a run blocker... voila, complete RT package. Schwartz? Pass pro yes, run block not so much.

    @unsympathetic said:

    Over their entire careers.. maybe.

    This year? Not true.. Look under Tour's post history, he quotes from an article about how Pasztor has this year finally learned how to pass block... and combine that with the fact that Paz has always been nearly unstoppable as a run blocker... voila, complete RT package. Schwartz? Pass pro yes, run block not so much.

    Paz has learned how to pass block in relative comparison to previous years. He still had struggled at times throughout this season. Is he Mitch's level at the same point in their careers? Maybe..

  • tiamat63T tiamat63

    @unsympathetic said:

    Over their entire careers.. maybe.

    This year? Not true.. Look under Tour's post history, he quotes from an article about how Pasztor has this year finally learned how to pass block... and combine that with the fact that Paz has always been nearly unstoppable as a run blocker... voila, complete RT package. Schwartz? Pass pro yes, run block not so much.

    Paz has learned how to pass block in relative comparison to previous years. He still had struggled at times throughout this season. Is he Mitch's level at the same point in their careers? Maybe..

    @tiamat63 said:

    Paz has learned how to pass block in relative comparison to previous years. He still had struggled at times throughout this season. Is he Mitch's level at the same point in their careers? Maybe..

    Agree... "at the same point"...

    Mitch was no roadgrader and the ZBS was not his thing either. He became an excellent pass protector over his 4 years here, bt at the start he was woeful.

    Paz's improvement in Passpro in just this season has been nothing short of jaw-dropping... and he still has room to grow his kick-step. Run blocking? Just slap "CAT" on his helmet.

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  • Tour, we still really need a state of the Browns post from you. At least give us a state of the OL post. I was unaware of Pasztor's improvement. But I find it hard to believe it's a mere two guys (assuming Joe, Greco, and Pasztor are good) causing all of this destruction in our backfield.

  • How about a line?

    The state of the Browns is not good.

    Back on the OL....

    With Bito out and Greco at Center our OG play has suffered. I wrote the other day that I did not understand putting Bailey at RG and Drango at LG. Seems exactly the opposite of where they've performed... or at least performed better than they did Sunday.

    When Bito went down his first replacement was Bailey... and he looked decent. And Drango was working the left side as Joe's back up since preseason with Shon Coleman out.

    Plus swapping them improves the experience balance of the OL.

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