OOOOOPSIE!
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They are fairly fraudulentish. How many injuries do you guys have Woody?
LT and CB. QB might be hurt now.
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1) Michigan is definitely not unbeatable. Any Michigan fan that thought that has no idea what they're talking about.
2) Michigan is not "a fraud". Unless you thought they were gonna be national champs this year or something.
It is year two of Harbaugh. We're barely using Harbaugh's recruits. We have a 3* QB starting. I wasn't expecting a national title this year... it is ok.
Well maybe fraud was too strong a word, but I think Michigan's offense is really boom or bust. They roll teams with bad defenses but when they run into a good defense their offense definitely struggles. They've been held to 14 and under a couple of times this year and we know that Harbaugh doesn't take his foot off the gas on his opponents. For a team scoring so prolifically it's concerning that they couldn't find the end zone more there. The Buckeyes have a similar issue but they've scored at least 20 in every game so they're finding the end zone a little more in tough games. I expect that may be the difference in the game this year.
Well maybe fraud was too strong a word, but I think Michigan's offense is really boom or bust. They roll teams with bad defenses but when they run into a good defense their offense definitely struggles. They've been held to 14 and under a couple of times this year and we know that Harbaugh doesn't take his foot off the gas on his opponents. For a team scoring so prolifically it's concerning that they couldn't find the end zone more there. The Buckeyes have a similar issue but they've scored at least 20 in every game so they're finding the end zone a little more in tough games. I expect that may be the difference in the game this year.
A few points
- Michigan has only been under 32 twice. Iowa and Wisconsin. (14 and 13).
- We missed 3 FGs against Wisconsin (but seem to be passed that issue)
- Iowa was a terrible offensive performance. No sugar coating that. Our QB git hurt in the second half, but we sucked before that.
- We do actually play a lot of backups in those blowouts. We don't go full Tresselball, but we aren't trying to run it up either.
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If Ohio State wins out they will get int the CFP....no ifs and or buts.....and it won't matter what Penn St. does.
you are correct. I can't see the committee putting a 2 loss PSU team or a 2 loss Wisconsin above OSUIf Ohio State wins out they will get int the CFP....no ifs and or buts.....and it won't matter what Penn St. does.
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A big ten championship PSU that beat OSU head to head?
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A big ten championship PSU that beat OSU head to head?
Yes. With (if) a victory over Michigan....a no brainer.
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PSU will have 2 loses. Not going to be ahead of OSU
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
Just saw meat chicken QB out with broken collarbone
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Just saw meat chicken QB out with broken collarbone
Yep. That is very, very not good. I don't see how we beat OSU now.
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PSU will have 2 loses. Not going to be ahead of OSU
PSU has a win over OSU. They'd also have a Big Ten title.
I don't think it is as cut and dry as you think.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
colorado i believe is not a top 20 team guess i'll find out in the next few weeks if they belong or not they have home games vs the cougers and the utes,so for them i guess there is allready room for celebration being that this will be their first winning season since 2004,which i am sure that is what michigan was banking on when they scheduled them
oh and as far as the occ you claim to be so much better than OSU do you ever look at whet level of competition these other teams played ? of course you hav'nt
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PSU will have 2 loses. Not going to be ahead of OSU
PSU has a win over OSU. They'd also have a Big Ten title.
I don't think it is as cut and dry as you think.
PSU has a win over OSU. They'd also have a Big Ten title.
I don't think it is as cut and dry as you think.
as I said penn state is over rated (you really don't listen do you) Wisconsins D will punch right through their porous o-line, win bye 2 scores
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PSU will have 2 loses. Not going to be ahead of OSU
PSU has a win over OSU. They'd also have a Big Ten title.
I don't think it is as cut and dry as you think.
can never say never, but if OSU wins out and PSU wins out. OSU will have a better record against a tougher schedule. Plus the committee is supposed to take the 4 best teams. I don't care if PSU beat OSU. Everyone knows OSU is a better team then PSUPSU has a win over OSU. They'd also have a Big Ten title.
I don't think it is as cut and dry as you think.
"And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve." -
colorado i believe is not a top 20 team guess i'll find out in the next few weeks if they belong or not they have home games vs the cougers and the utes,so for them i guess there is allready room for celebration being that this will be their first winning season since 2004,which i am sure that is what michigan was banking on when they scheduled them
oh and as far as the occ you claim to be so much better than OSU do you ever look at whet level of competition these other teams played ? of course you hav'nt
colorado i believe is not a top 20 team guess i'll find out in the next few weeks if they belong or not they have home games vs the cougers and the utes,so for them i guess there is allready room for celebration being that this will be their first winning season since 2004,which i am sure that is what michigan was banking on when they scheduled them
oh and as far as the occ you claim to be so much better than OSU do you ever look at whet level of competition these other teams played ? of course you hav'nt
You have a terrible time with reading comprehension, huh? You'd fit in well over on the political board.
Please tell me where I claimed Michigan's OOC was "so much better" than OSUs.
I'll wait.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
can never say never, but if OSU wins out and PSU wins out. OSU will have a better record against a tougher schedule. Plus the committee is supposed to take the 4 best teams. I don't care if PSU beat OSU. Everyone knows OSU is a better team then PSUPSU has a win over OSU. They'd also have a Big Ten title.
I don't think it is as cut and dry as you think.
can never say never, but if OSU wins out and PSU wins out. OSU will have a better record against a tougher schedule. Plus the committee is supposed to take the 4 best teams. I don't care if PSU beat OSU. Everyone knows OSU is a better team then PSU
Then they should have beaten them.
And remember, PSU will get one more game to play than OSU.
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They are fairly fraudulentish. How many injuries do you guys have Woody?
LT and CB. QB might be hurt now.
LT and CB. QB might be hurt now.
Ok so not that beat up and only 9-1. The schedule is not that difficult. MSU sucks this year. Haven't played OSU yet. Colorado's had a nice year but come on. They'd have a losing record in 2 or 3 other conferences.
The only nice wins are PSU and Wisconsin. Solid wins, to be sure. But when the rest of the schedule is tougher, it just tests your depth so much.
Also, I told some friends during the Michigan-Rutgers game that this ridiculous amount of attention to detail and try-hard in OOC games is going to make them lose a random game they shouldn't. Even Saban has had a ton of cupcake games where they came out slow. I think he talked last year about how a few years back Georgia State came in their house and "ran on us like s**t through a tin horn, man."
No team can dominate every team on the schedule from start to finish. You're gonna have to look sloppy and win a tight game or two and/or only beat your cupcakes by 20 points.
Obviously you can't tell your team to play badly and I don't expect Harbaugh to but I think there's a culture of expectation that is a good thing, but can hurt you in situations like these. It's ok to give up a first down.
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I agree with you Woody that it's going to get complicated if we have an 11-2 PSU with an OSU win and an 11-1 OSU team. OSU should get the nod. I'm a big fan of the eye test myself (and not much of a fan of PSU), but the committee will get tarred and feathered if they use that as a rationale.
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Just heard on the PFF podcast that this was Michigan's first road game against a B1G team that had won a conference game (don't know how big that sample size is).
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LT and CB. QB might be hurt now.
Ok so not that beat up and only 9-1. The schedule is not that difficult. MSU sucks this year. Haven't played OSU yet. Colorado's had a nice year but come on. They'd have a losing record in 2 or 3 other conferences.
The only nice wins are PSU and Wisconsin. Solid wins, to be sure. But when the rest of the schedule is tougher, it just tests your depth so much.
Also, I told some friends during the Michigan-Rutgers game that this ridiculous amount of attention to detail and try-hard in OOC games is going to make them lose a random game they shouldn't. Even Saban has had a ton of cupcake games where they came out slow. I think he talked last year about how a few years back Georgia State came in their house and "ran on us like s**t through a tin horn, man."
No team can dominate every team on the schedule from start to finish. You're gonna have to look sloppy and win a tight game or two and/or only beat your cupcakes by 20 points.
Obviously you can't tell your team to play badly and I don't expect Harbaugh to but I think there's a culture of expectation that is a good thing, but can hurt you in situations like these. It's ok to give up a first down.
Ok so not that beat up and only 9-1. The schedule is not that difficult. MSU sucks this year. Haven't played OSU yet. Colorado's had a nice year but come on. They'd have a losing record in 2 or 3 other conferences.
The only nice wins are PSU and Wisconsin. Solid wins, to be sure. But when the rest of the schedule is tougher, it just tests your depth so much.
Also, I told some friends during the Michigan-Rutgers game that this ridiculous amount of attention to detail and try-hard in OOC games is going to make them lose a random game they shouldn't. Even Saban has had a ton of cupcake games where they came out slow. I think he talked last year about how a few years back Georgia State came in their house and "ran on us like s**t through a tin horn, man."
No team can dominate every team on the schedule from start to finish. You're gonna have to look sloppy and win a tight game or two and/or only beat your cupcakes by 20 points.
Obviously you can't tell your team to play badly and I don't expect Harbaugh to but I think there's a culture of expectation that is a good thing, but can hurt you in situations like these. It's ok to give up a first down.
If you look at a win against the current #12 team in the country, and decide it's actually not a good win, then yeah, that hurts our SOS.....
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Just heard on the PFF podcast that this was Michigan's first road game against a B1G team that had won a conference game (don't know how big that sample size is).
Just heard on the PFF podcast that this was Michigan's first road game against a B1G team that had won a conference game (don't know how big that sample size is).
Only MSU and Rutgers before this. MSU has a Big Ten win now.
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