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  • @mudfly said:

    Yes...it is...100%

    fined, then suspended, then cut....for being injured.

    Then cut by the team who signed after that for not being able to pass a physical.

    @wargograw said:

    Then cut by the team who signed after that for not being able to pass a physical.

    exactly...which 100% confirms his side of the story......

    so....to to be sure....it is your opinion that good players, who are injured, should be forced to play a meaningless game....then fined....then suspended....then cut......instead of getting healed and retained.....

    you think thats the norm?....got it....

  • As much as I liked K'Wuan - he was injury prone. He didn't finish quite a few games he started/worked as our 3rd corner. It's probably a big reason he doesn't have a job today.

    I remembered Gipson showing up with a crappy attitude last year because the Browns didn't give him his dream contract when he made the Pro Bowl despite playing only about half the season in 2014. Just out of curiosity, is he lighting it up for the Jacksonville franchise that did throw him the free agent $ he wanted?

  • @wargograw said:

    Then cut by the team who signed after that for not being able to pass a physical.

    exactly...which 100% confirms his side of the story......

    so....to to be sure....it is your opinion that good players, who are injured, should be forced to play a meaningless game....then fined....then suspended....then cut......instead of getting healed and retained.....

    you think thats the norm?....got it....

    @mudfly said:

    exactly...which 100% confirms his side of the story......

    so....to to be sure....it is your opinion that good players, who are injured, should be forced to play a meaningless game....then fined....then suspended....then cut......instead of getting healed and retained.....

    you think thats the norm?....got it....

    Too much talent. He would have made our draft picks look worse than they are
  • @wargograw said:

    Then cut by the team who signed after that for not being able to pass a physical.

    exactly...which 100% confirms his side of the story......

    so....to to be sure....it is your opinion that good players, who are injured, should be forced to play a meaningless game....then fined....then suspended....then cut......instead of getting healed and retained.....

    you think thats the norm?....got it....

    @mudfly said:

    exactly...which 100% confirms his side of the story......

    so....to to be sure....it is your opinion that good players, who are injured, should be forced to play a meaningless game....then fined....then suspended....then cut......instead of getting healed and retained.....

    you think thats the norm?....got it....

    I believe you just won your case Mud! Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, who says you need to be Legally Blonde to win a case?

  • As much as I liked K'Wuan - he was injury prone. He didn't finish quite a few games he started/worked as our 3rd corner. It's probably a big reason he doesn't have a job today.

    I remembered Gipson showing up with a crappy attitude last year because the Browns didn't give him his dream contract when he made the Pro Bowl despite playing only about half the season in 2014. Just out of curiosity, is he lighting it up for the Jacksonville franchise that did throw him the free agent $ he wanted?

    @flugel said:

    As much as I liked K'Wuan - he was injury prone. He didn't finish quite a few games he started/worked as our 3rd corner. It's probably a big reason he doesn't have a job today.

    I remembered Gipson showing up with a crappy attitude last year because the Browns didn't give him his dream contract when he made the Pro Bowl despite playing only about half the season in 2014. Just out of curiosity, is he lighting it up for the Jacksonville franchise that did throw him the free agent $ he wanted?

    He needs surgery before he can play....bone spurs...."word" is that 20 teams were prepared to tap him, when Chicago claimed him...

    He is in the midst of a grievance with the Browns and, my guess is that he will have the surgery, rehab and then play for someone again....

    My beef isnt so much that he's gone....it's that he was mishandled and the staff missed the boat on a very young....affordable....player......which is what we are supposedly trying to collect and build a team with......it's not like we are teeming with young, effective DB's....

    Gipson?......not one that I was really sad to see go....and probably not "lighting it up".....but he has started and played every game and is certainly playing better than our FS's......(a position we basically suck at and perhaps the weakest position on a terrible D)

  • @mudfly said:

    exactly...which 100% confirms his side of the story......

    so....to to be sure....it is your opinion that good players, who are injured, should be forced to play a meaningless game....then fined....then suspended....then cut......instead of getting healed and retained.....

    you think thats the norm?....got it....

    I believe you just won your case Mud! Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, who says you need to be Legally Blonde to win a case?

    @flugel said:

    I believe you just won your case Mud! Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, who says you need to be Legally Blonde to win a case?

    well thank you Fluges.....

    Id have to have hair to be blonde.....so im safe there.....😉

  • Not sure why we bowed our backs in K'waun's case. Default position has to start with taking care of the player if we expect to attract FAs down the road. So I am left wondering, "What don't we know?"

  • Williams was a good player but had issues staying on the field with concussions before the bone spurs thing even came up. We've moved on and Jamar Taylor, when not being forced to play outside because Grandpa Williams can't, is at least on a level with him.

  • @wargograw said:

    Then cut by the team who signed after that for not being able to pass a physical.

    And replaced by guys just as good/better.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    And replaced by guys just as good/better.

    Zombo

    I don't agree with that.

  • @wargograw said:

    Then cut by the team who signed after that for not being able to pass a physical.

    exactly...which 100% confirms his side of the story......

    so....to to be sure....it is your opinion that good players, who are injured, should be forced to play a meaningless game....then fined....then suspended....then cut......instead of getting healed and retained.....

    you think thats the norm?....got it....

    @mudfly said:

    exactly...which 100% confirms his side of the story......

    so....to to be sure....it is your opinion that good players, who are injured, should be forced to play a meaningless game....then fined....then suspended....then cut......instead of getting healed and retained.....

    you think thats the norm?....got it....

    He can't play for awhile. That is why he was cut. If he could, the Bears would have kept him.

  • @wargograw said:

    Then cut by the team who signed after that for not being able to pass a physical.

    exactly...which 100% confirms his side of the story......

    so....to to be sure....it is your opinion that good players, who are injured, should be forced to play a meaningless game....then fined....then suspended....then cut......instead of getting healed and retained.....

    you think thats the norm?....got it....

    @mudfly said:

    you think thats the norm?....got it....

    @wargograw said:

    He can't play for awhile. That is why he was cut. If he could, the Bears would have kept him.

    As usual....no reply to the question or point being made....

    Ill answer it for you....Injury Reserve....its what most teams do(or all of em, actually).....I just saw you post on another thread about how this team has put extra people on the list to protect them....yet, them fining, suspending and cutting an injured(quality, young, affordable) player seems ok?

    Isnt that what we are supposed to be attemtping to draft...and keep?....young, affordable talent?////

  • @mudfly said:

    you think thats the norm?....got it....

    @wargograw said:

    He can't play for awhile. That is why he was cut. If he could, the Bears would have kept him.

    As usual....no reply to the question or point being made....

    Ill answer it for you....Injury Reserve....its what most teams do(or all of em, actually).....I just saw you post on another thread about how this team has put extra people on the list to protect them....yet, them fining, suspending and cutting an injured(quality, young, affordable) player seems ok?

    Isnt that what we are supposed to be attemtping to draft...and keep?....young, affordable talent?////

    @mudfly said:

    As usual....no reply to the question or point being made....

    Ill answer it for you....Injury Reserve....its what most teams do(or all of em, actually).....I just saw you post on another thread about how this team has put extra people on the list to protect them....yet, them fining, suspending and cutting an injured(quality, young, affordable) player seems ok?

    Isnt that what we are supposed to be attemtping to draft...and keep?....young, affordable talent?////

    Williams sucks, get over it

  • @mudfly said:

    As usual....no reply to the question or point being made....

    Ill answer it for you....Injury Reserve....its what most teams do(or all of em, actually).....I just saw you post on another thread about how this team has put extra people on the list to protect them....yet, them fining, suspending and cutting an injured(quality, young, affordable) player seems ok?

    Isnt that what we are supposed to be attemtping to draft...and keep?....young, affordable talent?////

    Williams sucks, get over it

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Williams sucks, get over it

    he didnt when he played....and Im long over him being gone...

    you all miss the point, oh so often......which wasnt that I miss him, its that our team didnt handle the situation right....

    figure it out...

    you can sweep every bad decision under the rug or you can accept them for what they are.....seems a lot of you cant accept that Hue and Shashi arent perfect and make mistakes(some real doosies too).....and if they do....apparently cant accept or hear it.....

    So...the discussion wasnt that we miss Kwaun...it was "why" is he gone?.....why did they screw him like they did?......and no one seems able to answer that question....

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Williams sucks, get over it

    he didnt when he played....and Im long over him being gone...

    you all miss the point, oh so often......which wasnt that I miss him, its that our team didnt handle the situation right....

    figure it out...

    you can sweep every bad decision under the rug or you can accept them for what they are.....seems a lot of you cant accept that Hue and Shashi arent perfect and make mistakes(some real doosies too).....and if they do....apparently cant accept or hear it.....

    So...the discussion wasnt that we miss Kwaun...it was "why" is he gone?.....why did they screw him like they did?......and no one seems able to answer that question....

    @mudfly said:

    he didnt when he played....and Im long over him being gone...

    you all miss the point, oh so often......which wasnt that I miss him, its that our team didnt handle the situation right....

    figure it out...

    you can sweep every bad decision under the rug or you can accept them for what they are.....seems a lot of you cant accept that Hue and Shashi arent perfect and make mistakes(some real doosies too).....and if they do....apparently cant accept or hear it.....

    So...the discussion wasnt that we miss Kwaun...it was "why" is he gone?.....why did they screw him like they did?......and no one seems able to answer that question....

    I'll answer.... It's because they're assholes. That's pretty much it.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Williams sucks, get over it

    he didnt when he played....and Im long over him being gone...

    you all miss the point, oh so often......which wasnt that I miss him, its that our team didnt handle the situation right....

    figure it out...

    you can sweep every bad decision under the rug or you can accept them for what they are.....seems a lot of you cant accept that Hue and Shashi arent perfect and make mistakes(some real doosies too).....and if they do....apparently cant accept or hear it.....

    So...the discussion wasnt that we miss Kwaun...it was "why" is he gone?.....why did they screw him like they did?......and no one seems able to answer that question....

    @mudfly said:

    he didnt when he played....and Im long over him being gone...

    you all miss the point, oh so often......which wasnt that I miss him, its that our team didnt handle the situation right....

    figure it out...

    you can sweep every bad decision under the rug or you can accept them for what they are.....seems a lot of you cant accept that Hue and Shashi arent perfect and make mistakes(some real doosies too).....and if they do....apparently cant accept or hear it.....

    So...the discussion wasnt that we miss Kwaun...it was "why" is he gone?.....why did they screw him like they did?......and no one seems able to answer that question....

    I think we're all interested to hear your working theories. "They're a bunch of idiots" doesn't qualify as a good one.

  • @mudfly said:

    you think thats the norm?....got it....

    @wargograw said:

    He can't play for awhile. That is why he was cut. If he could, the Bears would have kept him.

    As usual....no reply to the question or point being made....

    Ill answer it for you....Injury Reserve....its what most teams do(or all of em, actually).....I just saw you post on another thread about how this team has put extra people on the list to protect them....yet, them fining, suspending and cutting an injured(quality, young, affordable) player seems ok?

    Isnt that what we are supposed to be attemtping to draft...and keep?....young, affordable talent?////

    @mudfly said:

    As usual....no reply to the question or point being made....

    Ill answer it for you....Injury Reserve....its what most teams do(or all of em, actually).....I just saw you post on another thread about how this team has put extra people on the list to protect them....yet, them fining, suspending and cutting an injured(quality, young, affordable) player seems ok?

    Isnt that what we are supposed to be attemtping to draft...and keep?....young, affordable talent?////

    So if "all of em, actually" use IR, why didn't the Bears?

    As usual............................................................no reply to the question or point being made.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Williams sucks, get over it

    he didnt when he played....and Im long over him being gone...

    you all miss the point, oh so often......which wasnt that I miss him, its that our team didnt handle the situation right....

    figure it out...

    you can sweep every bad decision under the rug or you can accept them for what they are.....seems a lot of you cant accept that Hue and Shashi arent perfect and make mistakes(some real doosies too).....and if they do....apparently cant accept or hear it.....

    So...the discussion wasnt that we miss Kwaun...it was "why" is he gone?.....why did they screw him like they did?......and no one seems able to answer that question....

    @mudfly said:

    he didnt when he played....and Im long over him being gone...

    you all miss the point, oh so often......which wasnt that I miss him, its that our team didnt handle the situation right....

    figure it out...

    you can sweep every bad decision under the rug or you can accept them for what they are.....seems a lot of you cant accept that Hue and Shashi arent perfect and make mistakes(some real doosies too).....and if they do....apparently cant accept or hear it.....

    So...the discussion wasnt that we miss Kwaun...it was "why" is he gone?.....why did they screw him like they did?......and no one seems able to answer that question....

    The real discussion is why does it matter how we handled a CB who's not playing in the league and was mediocre at best before that.

  • @mudfly said:

    he didnt when he played....and Im long over him being gone...

    you all miss the point, oh so often......which wasnt that I miss him, its that our team didnt handle the situation right....

    figure it out...

    you can sweep every bad decision under the rug or you can accept them for what they are.....seems a lot of you cant accept that Hue and Shashi arent perfect and make mistakes(some real doosies too).....and if they do....apparently cant accept or hear it.....

    So...the discussion wasnt that we miss Kwaun...it was "why" is he gone?.....why did they screw him like they did?......and no one seems able to answer that question....

    The real discussion is why does it matter how we handled a CB who's not playing in the league and was mediocre at best before that.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    The real discussion is why does it matter how we handled a CB who's not playing in the league and was mediocre at best before that.

    Because if it were handled badly, it might put other players off coming here - not UDFAs looking for *any* chance in the league, but guys with some freedom of choice maybe.

  • @mudfly said:

    he didnt when he played....and Im long over him being gone...

    you all miss the point, oh so often......which wasnt that I miss him, its that our team didnt handle the situation right....

    figure it out...

    you can sweep every bad decision under the rug or you can accept them for what they are.....seems a lot of you cant accept that Hue and Shashi arent perfect and make mistakes(some real doosies too).....and if they do....apparently cant accept or hear it.....

    So...the discussion wasnt that we miss Kwaun...it was "why" is he gone?.....why did they screw him like they did?......and no one seems able to answer that question....

    I think we're all interested to hear your working theories. "They're a bunch of idiots" doesn't qualify as a good one.

    @wargograw said:

    I think we're all interested to hear your working theories. "They're a bunch of idiots" doesn't qualify as a good one.

    Ive already said I have no clue.....trying to seek the answer through discussion(which is what you're always bitchin we should do)....but apparently you have no clue either.....

    @wargograw said:

    So if "all of em, actually" use IR, why didn't the Bears?

    As usual............................................................no reply to the question or point being made.

    because they needed a CB now and he needed surgery?

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    The real discussion is why does it matter how we handled a CB who's not playing in the league and was mediocre at best before that.

    now that I think about it....the team is so bad that I guess it doesnt matter....no one even cares anymore..... we've got so much talent we can afford to cut and chop anyone we like.....or dont....

    Kind of like stealing a nickle from a homeless guy....one person says it's wrong.....someone else says "who cares" ...he's homeless and it's only a nickle.....

    @gftchris said:

    Because if it were handled badly, it might put other players off coming here - not UDFAs looking for *any* chance in the league, but guys with some freedom of choice maybe.

    exactly.....thanks for seeing it Chris.....

  • I see it, I'm just not sure I see it, if you follow.