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  • Whennic a team employing 2 DT's and 2 full time hands in the dirt proper like DE's.....i call em a 43 no matter what they do with the lb'ers. For me it boils down to personnel types. A team that has some 250-260lb hybrid guy that sometimes stands sometimes gets down, thats not a 43 thats the gay 34 ive come to despise mainly cause it dont work here.

    Im sorry but i pay attention to our edges and how they establish the point in the run game and how well they trim the edge on their way to the qb. All of which our 34 guys simply stink at. Yeah they've gotten a few sacks cause some qb didnt step up in time, but consistency wise they're terrible. They cannot establish and hold the point against the run, at all. They're always diving inside or out immediately cause they know they cannot hold off the tackles for even a split second to read theplay. So they just guess right from snap and the RB's always read them, always. Mccoy could have run for 200+ yds if rex wanted it. It was just there everytime. When nassib amd ogbah are in there things get a little more congested for opposing rb's it seems. Not saying those guys are run stopping savants but they seem to perturb the rumning lanes alot better than the 34 olb'ers

    @clevfan4life said:

    Whennic a team employing 2 DT's and 2 full time hands in the dirt proper like DE's.....i call em a 43 no matter what they do with the lb'ers. For me it boils down to personnel types. A team that has some 250-260lb hybrid guy that sometimes stands sometimes gets down, thats not a 43 thats the gay 34 ive come to despise mainly cause it dont work here.

    That's beyond general as the defensive alignment itself is the callsign. So if Anythony Barr has his hand in the ground as a DE, on that particular play that's a 4 man front. 33 personnel, doesn't make it a "34".

    And If you're willing to just throw away what the linebackers do, then you're discounting the '3' part in the 43

    Im sorry but i pay attention to our edges and how they establish the point in the run game and how well they trim the edge on their way to the qb

    All of which our 34 guys simply stink at. Yeah they've gotten a few sacks cause some qb didnt step up in time, but consistency wise they're terrible. They cannot establish and hold the point against the run, at all.

    So.... if our guys are that ineffective now, you're saying just changing the label of the defense, but maintaining the same gap assignments will somehow magically make them better...?

  • Id like to see more of Seth Devalve with Kessler or another capable qb before wasting a pick on TE. There are much much more pressing needs. But if a TE slides down I understand.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Whennic a team employing 2 DT's and 2 full time hands in the dirt proper like DE's.....i call em a 43 no matter what they do with the lb'ers. For me it boils down to personnel types. A team that has some 250-260lb hybrid guy that sometimes stands sometimes gets down, thats not a 43 thats the gay 34 ive come to despise mainly cause it dont work here.

    That's beyond general as the defensive alignment itself is the callsign. So if Anythony Barr has his hand in the ground as a DE, on that particular play that's a 4 man front. 33 personnel, doesn't make it a "34".

    And If you're willing to just throw away what the linebackers do, then you're discounting the '3' part in the 43

    Im sorry but i pay attention to our edges and how they establish the point in the run game and how well they trim the edge on their way to the qb

    All of which our 34 guys simply stink at. Yeah they've gotten a few sacks cause some qb didnt step up in time, but consistency wise they're terrible. They cannot establish and hold the point against the run, at all.

    So.... if our guys are that ineffective now, you're saying just changing the label of the defense, but maintaining the same gap assignments will somehow magically make them better...?

    @tiamat63 said:

    So.... if our guys are that ineffective now, you're saying just changing the label of the defense, but maintaining the same gap assignments will somehow magically make them better...?

    Mo, i want the straight up 34 olb'ers out of here. The other 43 guys that have been standing up can get their hands back in tje ground next year if it were my call. Guys like lemonier, johnson, collins, schobert.....unless they can prove they can be decent 4-3 olb'ers......bye!

  • Like collins and schobert id keep around long enough to see what the can do in tje 43. And especially if we draft garett or allen. I know we wouldnt stand allen up, at least i hope not, but i can see us doing garett likevthat and something tells me thats exactly what he's worried about us doing which is why he hasnt officially declared

  • If Cutler can accept a backup role and comes in with a good attitude then I really like that idea. Not sure if he does either. I find it difficult to keep McCown another year because he can't actually play football. And at some point, no matter how good of a locker room guy you are, that matters.

    @wargograw said:

    If Cutler can accept a backup role and comes in with a good attitude then I really like that idea. Not sure if he does either. I find it difficult to keep McCown another year because he can't actually play football. And at some point, no matter how good of a locker room guy you are, that matters.

    you'd be hard pressed to name me a better guy as 3rd string qb. He's good with the mentoring role, balls of an elephant, solid mentally on the game and can play in a pinch.
  • Mccowns the best qb on this team. Let that one marinate

  • @wargograw said:

    If Cutler can accept a backup role and comes in with a good attitude then I really like that idea. Not sure if he does either. I find it difficult to keep McCown another year because he can't actually play football. And at some point, no matter how good of a locker room guy you are, that matters.

    you'd be hard pressed to name me a better guy as 3rd string qb. He's good with the mentoring role, balls of an elephant, solid mentally on the game and can play in a pinch.

    @jcam222 said:

    you'd be hard pressed to name me a better guy as 3rd string qb. He's good with the mentoring role, balls of an elephant, solid mentally on the game and can play in a pinch.

    Kessler. Next year if you sign Cutler.

  • I'm already frustrated about this game because of RG III and the anticipated weather. RG III is so completely frustrating to watch. He's late on so many throws, and I don't see that getting better. Heck, even on that one long pass to Hawkins, he STILL screwed up. He was several seconds late on that throw, and had he thrown it when he SHOULD'VE, Hawkins might've had a chance to score. He's a pretty shifty guy in the open field, but who knows. The throw ended up being awesome, but if you look at that play from above, you'll see Hawk WIDE OPEN long before the ball is thrown. Remember hearing how good RG III was at throwing the deep ball? Have you seen anything good? I haven't. So we're basically going to wait at least a quarter, probably longer, before Cody comes in. I can see it now. 3 and out, 3 and out, 3 and out. Oh, and the weather? Last time I checked it was 70% chance of rain. That'll make for a terrific game in 35 degree weather.

  • @jcam222 said:

    you'd be hard pressed to name me a better guy as 3rd string qb. He's good with the mentoring role, balls of an elephant, solid mentally on the game and can play in a pinch.

    Kessler. Next year if you sign Cutler.

    @wargograw said:

    Kessler. Next year if you sign Cutler.

    he's our 2 if they sign Cutler
  • Browns sign Cutler and I'll lead the March to burn the stadium down.

  • Browns sign Cutler and I'll lead the March to burn the stadium down.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Browns sign Cutler and I'll lead the March to burn the stadium down.

    As a cheap, experienced backup. If we don't draft a QB.

  • Mccowns the best qb on this team. Let that one marinate

    @clevfan4life said:

    Mccowns the best qb on this team. Let that one marinate

    That's deep.
  • Mccowns the best qb on this team. Let that one marinate

    @clevfan4life said:

    Mccowns the best qb on this team. Let that one marinate

    That's deep.
  • Browns sign Cutler and I'll lead the March to burn the stadium down.

    @tiamat63 said:

    Browns sign Cutler and I'll lead the March to burn the stadium down.

    I'll bring some K1 and tiki torches.