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  • and again a very young OL that will get better. Maybe a new QB might help. Barrett was the reason Trubisky went to UNC instead of OSU. Bet Urban wishes he had Trubisky instead.

  • @miktoxic said:

    Urban Meyer hasn't produced a NFL caliber QB ever.

    I think that is a feather in his cap.

    He's not there to produce NFL QBs, he is there to win college football games.

    Three championships, three different QBs.

    Zombo

    Zombo said:

    I think that is a feather in his cap.

    He's not there to produce NFL QBs, he is there to win college football games.

    Three championships, three different QBs.

    Zombo

    Exactly correct.

    I don't see any of Saban's QB's playing well in the pros, and no one is critical of him for not producing NFL QB's

  • Urban Meyer hasn't produced a NFL caliber QB ever.

    @miktoxic said:

    Urban Meyer hasn't produced a NFL caliber QB ever.

    Alex Smith of K.C. says hello.

    "Smith attended the University of Utah and played for the Utah Utes, wearing number 11. He finished fourth in voting for the 2004 Heisman Trophy and was selected as the 2004 Mountain West Conference Player of the Year. Smith posted a 21–1 record as a starter in college, while leading a high-powered spread offense under head coach Urban Meyer."

  • no one is saying meyer isn't a great coach. i'm a huge fan of he and the bucks.

    just amazing to me that when the whole nation is watching on the biggest game of the year for you, you trot out j.t. fucking barret. the college and pro game is so far apart now when it comes to the QB position that any team is lucky to draft a true nfl caliber pocket passer.

    and even though i'm a bucks fan i'm also a realist. if watson had been starting for the bucks they would have won that game, and i'm no watson. fan. you could put pryor, braxton, cardelle and J.T. in a room and between them couldn't count to 11. and what about your heisman trophy winner. what a flippin joke.

  • and again a very young OL that will get better. Maybe a new QB might help. Barrett was the reason Trubisky went to UNC instead of OSU. Bet Urban wishes he had Trubisky instead.

    @topdawg31 said:

    and again a very young OL that will get better. Maybe a new QB might help. Barrett was the reason Trubisky went to UNC instead of OSU. Bet Urban wishes he had Trubisky instead.

    Interesting. The place Trubisky did choose didn't start him until this year. This is more of a hunch based on hearsay but I think he backed up a QB with a similar skillset/game to that of Barrett at NC.

  • @miktoxic said:

    Urban Meyer hasn't produced a NFL caliber QB ever.

    Alex Smith of K.C. says hello.

    "Smith attended the University of Utah and played for the Utah Utes, wearing number 11. He finished fourth in voting for the 2004 Heisman Trophy and was selected as the 2004 Mountain West Conference Player of the Year. Smith posted a 21–1 record as a starter in college, while leading a high-powered spread offense under head coach Urban Meyer."

    @texasag1969 said:

    Alex Smith of K.C. says hello.

    "Smith attended the University of Utah and played for the Utah Utes, wearing number 11. He finished fourth in voting for the 2004 Heisman Trophy and was selected as the 2004 Mountain West Conference Player of the Year. Smith posted a 21–1 record as a starter in college, while leading a high-powered spread offense under head coach Urban Meyer."

    yes, i know, yet when the browns had the chance to sign him in FA everyone here except me balked, bitched and moaned about that proposition. yeah i hate smith and the chiefs so bad that i picked them to represent the AFC in the super bowl this year last february. don't see anyone else here going out on that limb.

    who fuckin watches the utah utes anyway? same assholes stuck in utah that's who.

  • @topdawg31 said:

    and again a very young OL that will get better. Maybe a new QB might help. Barrett was the reason Trubisky went to UNC instead of OSU. Bet Urban wishes he had Trubisky instead.

    Interesting. The place Trubisky did choose didn't start him until this year. This is more of a hunch based on hearsay but I think he backed up a QB with a similar skillset/game to that of Barrett at NC.

    @flugel said:

    Interesting. The place Trubisky did choose didn't start him until this year. This is more of a hunch based on hearsay but I think he backed up a QB with a similar skillset/game to that of Barrett at NC.

    Timing is everything Marquis went on a run of spectacular play during that stretch.

  • no one is saying meyer isn't a great coach. i'm a huge fan of he and the bucks.

    just amazing to me that when the whole nation is watching on the biggest game of the year for you, you trot out j.t. fucking barret. the college and pro game is so far apart now when it comes to the QB position that any team is lucky to draft a true nfl caliber pocket passer.

    and even though i'm a bucks fan i'm also a realist. if watson had been starting for the bucks they would have won that game, and i'm no watson. fan. you could put pryor, braxton, cardelle and J.T. in a room and between them couldn't count to 11. and what about your heisman trophy winner. what a flippin joke.

    @miktoxic said:

    no one is saying meyer isn't a great coach. i'm a huge fan of he and the bucks.

    just amazing to me that when the whole nation is watching on the biggest game of the year for you, you trot out j.t. fucking barret. the college and pro game is so far apart now when it comes to the QB position that any team is lucky to draft a true nfl caliber pocket passer.

    and even though i'm a bucks fan i'm also a realist. if watson had been starting for the bucks they would have won that game, and i'm no watson. fan. you could put pryor, braxton, cardelle and J.T. in a room and between them couldn't count to 11. and what about your heisman trophy winner. what a flippin joke.

    I'm not defending the way JT played at all so don't think that, but he actually is a very intelligent young man if that's what you were getting at with count to 11 thing. Braxton isn't a complete idiot either. The other two I won't comment on their intelligence haha. Now as far as the bucks go they were one year ahead of schedule and it was thanks to that defense. The offensive playcalling has been elementary all year. I wouldn't even draft JT in the seventh round because of "arm talent" or lack there of, but Ed Warriner and Tim Beck do not put their players in a position to be successful.

  • To piggyback on the defense I wouldn't mind drafting Hooker in the first round but it's not really a need. Marshawn Lattimore is an absolute stud and I would be ok drafting him with our second first round pick if the pick is in the 10th to 13th range. I think he will be lockdown and he has good size. They didn't even throw at his man last night. Gareon Conley in the second would be good value if we are looking corner and don't get one in the first.

  • @miktoxic said:

    Urban Meyer hasn't produced a NFL caliber QB ever.

    .851 all-time winning percentage.....w/o a star QB....

    anyone who wins national championships with a 3rd string QB and Tim Tebow, has to be the greatest coach....everrrrrr

    @mudfly said:

    .851 all-time winning percentage.....w/o a star QB....

    anyone who wins national championships with a 3rd string QB and Tim Tebow, has to be the greatest coach....everrrrrr

    He's had star QBs. just not NFL type QBs. Well, just Alex Smith. But idk the last OSU QB that had some success in the NFL.

  • Who is the bucks qb next year btw?

  • Who is the bucks qb next year btw?

    @clevfan4life said:

    Who is the bucks qb next year btw?

    JT Barrett
  • @miktoxic said:

    no one is saying meyer isn't a great coach. i'm a huge fan of he and the bucks.

    just amazing to me that when the whole nation is watching on the biggest game of the year for you, you trot out j.t. fucking barret. the college and pro game is so far apart now when it comes to the QB position that any team is lucky to draft a true nfl caliber pocket passer.

    and even though i'm a bucks fan i'm also a realist. if watson had been starting for the bucks they would have won that game, and i'm no watson. fan. you could put pryor, braxton, cardelle and J.T. in a room and between them couldn't count to 11. and what about your heisman trophy winner. what a flippin joke.

    I'm not defending the way JT played at all so don't think that, but he actually is a very intelligent young man if that's what you were getting at with count to 11 thing. Braxton isn't a complete idiot either. The other two I won't comment on their intelligence haha. Now as far as the bucks go they were one year ahead of schedule and it was thanks to that defense. The offensive playcalling has been elementary all year. I wouldn't even draft JT in the seventh round because of "arm talent" or lack there of, but Ed Warriner and Tim Beck do not put their players in a position to be successful.

    @bjh2130 said:

    ery intelligent young man if that's what you were getting at with count to 11 thing.

    no. smarmy comment on not being able to adjust to and read a defense.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    Who is the bucks qb next year btw?

    JT Barrett

    @browns149 said:

    JT Barrett

    The fuck he is

  • Who else would it be?

  • Who else would it be?

    @mld-woody said:

    Who else would it be?

    Don't listen to the bullshit JT Barrett isn't going anywhere.
  • @bjh2130 said:

    ery intelligent young man if that's what you were getting at with count to 11 thing.

    no. smarmy comment on not being able to adjust to and read a defense.

    @miktoxic said:

    no. smarmy comment on not being able to adjust to and read a defense.

    Gotcha

  • @miktoxic said:

    Urban Meyer hasn't produced a NFL caliber QB ever.

    .851 all-time winning percentage.....w/o a star QB....

    anyone who wins national championships with a 3rd string QB and Tim Tebow, has to be the greatest coach....everrrrrr

    @mudfly said:

    .851 all-time winning percentage.....w/o a star QB....

    anyone who wins national championships with a 3rd string QB and Tim Tebow, has to be the greatest coach....everrrrrr

    Chris Leak was the qb when they embarrassed OSU

  • @mudfly said:

    .851 all-time winning percentage.....w/o a star QB....

    anyone who wins national championships with a 3rd string QB and Tim Tebow, has to be the greatest coach....everrrrrr

    Chris Leak was the qb when they embarrassed OSU

    @pumpkin-eater said:

    Chris Leak was the qb when they embarrassed OSU

    Timmy won a 'ship two years later as well.

  • IMO this was Meyer's greatest coaching year of his career. He graduating

    practically a starting NFL team and still won 11 games. They were a year ahead of

    schedule this year.

    Having said that I agree with most of everything people have said about J T Barrett.

    He is a good runner but as a passer he is awful. He holds the ball too long, has a

    slooooow release, and is not accurate. A bad combination. I know he will be the

    starter next year. He will win enough games but not the big one.