Mock Draft Central
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The rookie from last year - Kessler - looks like McCown 2.0, he's a fine enough guy to carry us to some wins next year if needed, but not the franchise guy we're looking for I think.
The rookie from last year - Kessler - looks like McCown 2.0, he's a fine enough guy to carry us to some wins next year if needed, but not the franchise guy we're looking for I think.
i guess i feel the same...... yes i know his name. just did better than i thought considering his draft 'intangibles'. i put one in hue's win column considering i really didn't like his hire.
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The rookie from last year - Kessler - looks like McCown 2.0, he's a fine enough guy to carry us to some wins next year if needed, but not the franchise guy we're looking for I think.
i guess i feel the same...... yes i know his name. just did better than i thought considering his draft 'intangibles'. i put one in hue's win column considering i really didn't like his hire.
i guess i feel the same...... yes i know his name. just did better than i thought considering his draft 'intangibles'. i put one in hue's win column considering i really didn't like his hire.
I think his intangibles are pretty good, just his tangibles weren't so good. Not so big, arm strength not so great, but good leader, protects the ball etc. If you want a game manager, then he could be it, if he could just air it out a bit more from time to time and really use guys like Coleman and Pryor.
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Game managers like Alex Smith are good enough to teach the playoffs. Was disappointed in how they used and treated Kessler last year he was showing promise and should have had the offense tailored to him instead it seemed they were annoyed he couldn't do the things they should have already known he couldn't do when they drafted him.
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Game managers like Alex Smith are good enough to teach the playoffs. Was disappointed in how they used and treated Kessler last year he was showing promise and should have had the offense tailored to him instead it seemed they were annoyed he couldn't do the things they should have already known he couldn't do when they drafted him.
Game managers like Alex Smith are good enough to teach the playoffs. Was disappointed in how they used and treated Kessler last year he was showing promise and should have had the offense tailored to him instead it seemed they were annoyed he couldn't do the things they should have already known he couldn't do when they drafted him.
I know what you are saying, but still disagree "we" were asking too much of Kess. Hue just wanted him to take shots that were there downfield. And many of the shots were intermediate ones. It is not as if he was expected to launch 60-yd bomb after 60-yd bomb.
Maybe we were asking "too soon", but not too much.
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Kiper's 2.0 is out...
1. Myles Garrett, DE, Texas A&M*
I've made a bunch of changes in this mock from the 1.0 version. This isn't one of them. It's not out of the question that this pick could factor into the future at quarterback for the Browns, whether that's a drafted QB or one they acquire via trade. But Garrett is, right now, clearly the No. 1 player in this draft class and would be an immediate help at a position where having an elite player on a rookie contract is like stealing.
12. Tre'Davious White, CB, LSU
In this scenario, two quarterbacks are off the board. Since I can't simulate a trade here (Jimmy Garoppolo?), this pick is made based on the idea that Cleveland has either found a QB through trade or free agency and doesn't want to reach on another QB. White would come in and at least partially address a major need area (coverage, in all aspects).
https://www.reddit.com/r/Browns/comments/5u8m7s/kiper_mock_20/
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Is my wariness of LSU guys justified? DBs and DL in particular? They're all 5 stars and they just out talent people in college. At least at Alabama you know they're being lorded over by a dictator of technique. Things were more lax under Miles and Chavis (don't know about Aranda yet).
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And PFF's 4.0 is out....
1. Garrett
12. FSU RB Davin Cook
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Is my wariness of LSU guys justified? DBs and DL in particular? They're all 5 stars and they just out talent people in college. At least at Alabama you know they're being lorded over by a dictator of technique. Things were more lax under Miles and Chavis (don't know about Aranda yet).
Is my wariness of LSU guys justified? DBs and DL in particular? They're all 5 stars and they just out talent people in college. At least at Alabama you know they're being lorded over by a dictator of technique. Things were more lax under Miles and Chavis (don't know about Aranda yet).
No more so than wariness of TAMU guys as far as first round picks...hell the whole SEC
Mingo, Manziel. Richardson. Warren. Couch. We got shit on by the entire SEC. (Well, there was Joe Haden).
The ACC isn't much better: Erving, Wimbley, K2. Green.
And fucking Oklahoma St? Gilbert and Weeden. Keeee- riste
At least the Big Ten gave us JT.
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If I were the Browns, I would offer our 1st pick in the second round for JG. I think NE would say no, until the first round comes to an end and they're still holding on to JG. Then they'll come to their senses. If not, we pick best QB available and hope for the best.
Then I would go 1. Garrett and 2. (Surprise!! guess who falls to us?) Mike Williams. Then JG, and then go best available CB or S.
Now that could change the dynamics of this team!
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If I were the Browns, I would offer our 1st pick in the second round for JG. I think NE would say no, until the first round comes to an end and they're still holding on to JG. Then they'll come to their senses. If not, we pick best QB available and hope for the best.
Then I would go 1. Garrett and 2. (Surprise!! guess who falls to us?) Mike Williams. Then JG, and then go best available CB or S.
Now that could change the dynamics of this team!
If I were the Browns, I would offer our 1st pick in the second round for JG. I think NE would say no, until the first round comes to an end and they're still holding on to JG. Then they'll come to their senses. If not, we pick best QB available and hope for the best.
Then I would go 1. Garrett and 2. (Surprise!! guess who falls to us?) Mike Williams. Then JG, and then go best available CB or S.
Now that could change the dynamics of this team!
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Mike William??? at 12? for the Browns?
no way. He isn't a dramatic impact player like Howard.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/mike-williams?id=2557966
WEAKNESSES Natural pass catcher who will occasionally run into focus drops. Drops issue found him over second half of the season. Route work lacks focus and energy. Creates very little indecision from cornerbacks with his head fakes and jab steps. Ability to win with physical traits could dry up on next level. Could use better understanding of route leverage to open wider passing lanes for quarterbacks. Plant-and-go at the stem lacks crispness as does acceleration from his cuts. Average release quickness. Gets hung up by press corners with a good lead jab. Needs to play to his size. Gets muscled against sideline too often. Fumbled twice this season. Neck injury forced him to miss entire 2015 season so until he clears combine medicals, teams may have a red flag on him. SOURCES TELL US "Really pretty looking when you watch him down on the field but he's not there yet. I think he'll get there but he's not there yet. I don't think he's going to run as fast as people think. When college players get up here and find out that cornerbacks are faster and more physical, there is an adjustment period. I think it will take him some time to figure things out but I think he'll do it. He's going to be good, I just don't know if he's going to be a star." -- NFC Pro Personnel Director NFL COMPARISONPlaxico Burress
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Is my wariness of LSU guys justified? DBs and DL in particular? They're all 5 stars and they just out talent people in college. At least at Alabama you know they're being lorded over by a dictator of technique. Things were more lax under Miles and Chavis (don't know about Aranda yet).
No more so than wariness of TAMU guys as far as first round picks...hell the whole SEC
Mingo, Manziel. Richardson. Warren. Couch. We got shit on by the entire SEC. (Well, there was Joe Haden).
The ACC isn't much better: Erving, Wimbley, K2. Green.
And fucking Oklahoma St? Gilbert and Weeden. Keeee- riste
At least the Big Ten gave us JT.
No more so than wariness of TAMU guys as far as first round picks...hell the whole SEC
Mingo, Manziel. Richardson. Warren. Couch. We got shit on by the entire SEC. (Well, there was Joe Haden).
The ACC isn't much better: Erving, Wimbley, K2. Green.
And fucking Oklahoma St? Gilbert and Weeden. Keeee- riste
At least the Big Ten gave us JT.
One school to one NFL team means nothing. Especially when your sample size is 1 or 2. LSU has a DB in the first round practically every year and the only ones I can name based on their NFL performances are Peterson and Mathieu.
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No more so than wariness of TAMU guys as far as first round picks...hell the whole SEC
Mingo, Manziel. Richardson. Warren. Couch. We got shit on by the entire SEC. (Well, there was Joe Haden).
The ACC isn't much better: Erving, Wimbley, K2. Green.
And fucking Oklahoma St? Gilbert and Weeden. Keeee- riste
At least the Big Ten gave us JT.
One school to one NFL team means nothing. Especially when your sample size is 1 or 2. LSU has a DB in the first round practically every year and the only ones I can name based on their NFL performances are Peterson and Mathieu.
LSU has a DB in the first round practically every year and the only ones I can name based on their NFL performances are Peterson and Mathieu.
Don't need a monopoly in DB's but it sure would help if their 40's,high jump & reactions were quicker/higher than some of our opponents receivers..still waiting on that anal-lynics
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Hopefully we can build the defense the first two picks. If we can get Trumaine Johnson in free agency we could go Garett then some skill offensive player.
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Mike Maylock's top 5 per position---QB a bit of a surprise.
And LSU's White is #5 out of 5 @ CB. Not a #12 overall in that slot.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000785722/article/mike-mayocks-2017-nfl-draft-position-rankings
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Garrett
Peppers
Jones
McCaffrey
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No more so than wariness of TAMU guys as far as first round picks...hell the whole SEC
Mingo, Manziel. Richardson. Warren. Couch. We got shit on by the entire SEC. (Well, there was Joe Haden).
The ACC isn't much better: Erving, Wimbley, K2. Green.
And fucking Oklahoma St? Gilbert and Weeden. Keeee- riste
At least the Big Ten gave us JT.
One school to one NFL team means nothing. Especially when your sample size is 1 or 2. LSU has a DB in the first round practically every year and the only ones I can name based on their NFL performances are Peterson and Mathieu.
One school to one NFL team means nothing. Especially when your sample size is 1 or 2. LSU has a DB in the first round practically every year and the only ones I can name based on their NFL performances are Peterson and Mathieu.
Well....maybe the problem has been our scouting department/GMs. No matter where guys come from, SEC, ACC, Big 12 or what school, they seem to come out busts.
We have had Big Ten busts as well: Braylon And Notre Dame busts: Quinn
The Pac 10 may not have been so bad: Alex Mack/Danny Shelton
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Mike Maylock's top 5 per position---QB a bit of a surprise.
And LSU's White is #5 out of 5 @ CB. Not a #12 overall in that slot.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000785722/article/mike-mayocks-2017-nfl-draft-position-rankings
Mike Maylock's top 5 per position---QB a bit of a surprise.
And LSU's White is #5 out of 5 @ CB. Not a #12 overall in that slot.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000785722/article/mike-mayocks-2017-nfl-draft-position-rankings
Again...he says the only question about MT is that he has only started one year. That is all anyone ever says.
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