GOAT

[mjp28]

@boo-fagley said:

Quite a few retired players are dead broke.

There would be a big payday to come out and expose the big conspiracy.

Oh some do occasionally in all sports mainly when retired Jose Conseco comes to mind now regarded as an idiot, oh his daughter was Miss June 2016 I'll bet also just for the money.

There have been tell all books throughout time remember Ball Four?

[The Gipper]

@boo-fagley said:

No need to call when the Tom "GOAT" Brady is still playing.

Grahams NFL is like checkers compared to the 3 D Chess of todays game. Teams used to play 1 defense the entire season. The players are bigger, faster and smarter today and the game is a 12 month 365 day job. Somebody else is getting better if you are not. In Grahams days the players had full time jobs like bar tender or painting houses. Football was like playing golf on Sunday.

Again....you make our argument. OG did NOT have the advantages of today's players. Not the nutrition or weight training, certainly not the money. No computers etc.

But, if you think it was like playing golf....you are one dumb motherfucking idiot. Go ahead...go out a play football and get hit by the likes of the guys that OG got hit by.

Tom Brady may have lasted only slightly longer than you. He would have been crunched like a pretzel. Now, I am not saying he isn't a pretty tough guy. He is. He stands in there and takes shots. But even so, he is still vastly more protected than QBs of old.

And by the way....you also show you have no clue about what the Browns played like back then. Paul Brown and OG invented the "West coast offense", though it was not called that then. The same system that the 49ers ran during their reign, that the Packers ran...that many teams still run.

I know you would not know that. You know little or nothing, that is evident.

[The Gipper]

@boo-fagley said:

What on earth are you rambling about today?

The game comes down to opportunities made and opportunities missed. 1 play or bad call never decides it when you didnt make plays that were there, A dropped ball, bad throw or missed block like Hightowers sack.

Julio Jones had 4 catches. Its not luck or voo doo or 1 play bull$hit.

Its like talking to a Retard here, isn't it folks.

Of course every play counts you moron. But, the question is "what does a game come down to".

So....in your view, the 2014 Super Bowl did not come down to the Seahawks making a stupid call by throwing the ball instead of giving it to Marshawn Lynch to run it in. It did not come down to that DB making that interception on that play.

You don't think that play could have made the difference between winning and losing.

You think that if that play had been executed differently...correctly, that the Patriots would still have won.

Is that what you are saying?

[The Gipper]

@boo-fagley said:

The players could not tell the difference between the NE footballs and the new teams footballs.

The referees couldn't tell either.

You have investigation resources at your disposal since youre a Lawyer and Magistrate. It is your sworn duty to the United States of America and the Bar Association to expose this scandal. Go forth and let the evidence lead you to the truth and justice for all.

Now you are really proving you don't know shit from shinola.

I will show you what my sworn duty is.: I will be glad to investigate on your behalf. Just as soon as you pay me a $100,000.00 retainer. That is where my lawyerly duty lies.....to client's that have hired me at my asking price.

If you don't like that....go ahead and try to have a case brought before my court where I have proper jurisdiction over it.

Somehow I don't think that you can get any parties to agree that the Doylestown Mayor's Court is the proper venue for such a thing.

[gftChris]

Will you two just give it a fucking rest already? Every thread ends up clogged with your endless back and forth. Some of us actually want to talk about football.

[The Gipper]

@gftchris said:

Will you two just give it a fucking rest already? Every thread ends up clogged with your endless back and forth. Some of us actually want to talk about football.

Go ahead. Give your opinion. We all welcome it. Some on here however cannot stomach an alternate opinion. Not sure why a GOAT thread got involved with another deflategate topic. Something I know almost none of us care about.

[LondonBrown]

Fuck this boo guy, piss off to a cheating pats forum with the rest of your arrogant shameless pos fans

[Kvoethe]

At least no more arguing with Pats fans. Your right Brady is the Goat. No more arguing. Christ he was throwing laser beams in the fourth. Unreal. Dude was singing along with National Anthem so he moved up a couple pegs imho.

[MLD Woody]

@diehardbrownsfan said:

I think Woody is in love.

I could never cheat on Denard

[MLD Woody]

@the-gipper said:

Call us when someone catches up.

But, you bring up a good point. OG only did it in an 11 year career. He had accomplished so much that he retired. (He could actually get paid more doing something else in those days). Plus, he played in time when QBs didn't wear skirts...or were given a protective bubble the way they are now.

So, not only was he better, won more....he was tougher.

Yeah, I think they just started letting non white people play...

[Tour2ma]

@texasag1969 said:

Arthur. I've got 3 copies of it including 40th and 50th anniversary. One of those great American novels.

Next question. On whom did she base the character of Dill?

Ding ding ding... we have a winner.

I remember hearing about all the characters' roots back during the anniversary specials and pub of Harper Lee's original manuscript (IIRC), but not all the details.

I do remember a couple specials at the time talking about her friendship with Truman Capote, which was documented in two different movies about his researching and writing In Cold Blood. Dill was prissy enough to be Capote, but the timing seems off since ... Blood came years later than To Kill...

So I give...

@gftchris said:

Will you two just give it a fucking rest already? Every thread ends up clogged with your endless back and forth. Some of us actually want to talk about football.

There is a cure for that... just sayin'...

[MLD Woody]

Oh god, deflate gate again?

Do we need ANOTHER lesson on the ideal gas law? Do we need to show how there were under inflated balls in a game this year and the NFL ignored it?

[Tim Couch Pulls Out]

There's is no such thing as the greatest of all time. Graham can't be compared to Brady for a number of reasons, mostly because in Graham's era you ate a five course dinner, smoked a cigar, and drank a few whiskeys before hitting the field.

Graham was the greatest of his time. Brady is the greatest of this time. That's all there is to it.

[The Gipper]

@mld-woody said:

Yeah, I think they just started letting non white people play...

He played with Motley, Willis etc.

[The Gipper]

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

There's is no such thing as the greatest of all time. Graham can't be compared to Brady for a number of reasons, mostly because in Graham's era you ate a five course dinner, smoked a cigar, and drank a few whiskeys before hitting the field.

Graham was the greatest of his time. Brady is the greatest of this time. That's all there is to it.

Fair enough. Its a family photo anyway.

[The Gipper]

@boo-fagley said:

I am here to talk football, but this dumb fvck follows me from thread to thread except on weekends.

Brady is the GOAT in terms of rings. Montana never lost a Super Bowl in his era.

In what mathematical system is 5 more than 7?

(and which one of us got a name change for being a douche?)

[The Gipper]

@boo-fagley said:

See what I mean folks.

Impossible to talk football with someone clueless.

You mean someone that knows that 7 Championships is more than 5? There is talking football (see TCs post), and there is just being..like you said...clueless.

You must have been a product of the Betsy DeVos school of learning.

[The Gipper]

@boo-fagley said:

Many say that Unitas is the best of all time.

Called his own plays and in those days you could do everything but murder to NFL Quarterbacks.

Yes....as TC said, and I agreed...it is a team photo. And Brady, OG, JU, Joe M. etc. are in the photo.

[Tour2ma]

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

There's is no such thing as the greatest of all time. Graham can't be compared to Brady for a number of reasons, mostly because in Graham's era you ate a five course dinner, smoked a cigar, and drank a few whiskeys before hitting the field.

Graham was the greatest of his time. Brady is the greatest of this time. That's all there is to it.

Yup...

@boo-fagley said:

I am here to talk football, but this dumb fvck follows me from thread to thread except on weekends.

Just be glad you have weekends off...

[The Gipper]

@tour2ma said:

Yup...

Just be glad you have weekends off...

So...you agree with him that BB, TB and the Pats never cheated. It was all a conspiracy against them. (that is his claim).

An you agree with him that Tom Brady's 5 titles is more than Otto Graham's 7?

And you got all stupid with me over the fact that I forgot that Brandon Weeden started game one of his rookie year?

And you got all stupid with me because it is my opinion that the Browns need a QB, first and foremost priority?

Yet you defend this feckless fugat?

Just so we are clear on where you are coming from.