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  • @tour2ma said:

    So seems as if Sheard will be hitting FA...

    How so? Dwayne Allen = TE? Salary implications?

    Jesus Christ people... we did not sign a fucking FB! We'll miss him at least 6 plays a game...

    Sorry... just spent an hour in the Political section and had some carry over.

    @gftchris said:

    How so? Dwayne Allen = TE? Salary implications?

    More like brainfart...

    Somehow got Dwight Freeney in my head, but only because he played there a few years ago and the names are so dissimilar...

    @d-bone said:

    Why do I have the sinking feeling that 2 weeks from now, the Browns will have done nothing and they will be telling us to 'trust the process'?

    Hope I'm wrong, but............

    I'll be there for you, D... it'll be alright...

  • So the real question becomes how many teams really need a QB after the 12th overall. Can we get away with waiting until #33?

    I think some of the mocks are showing that now.

    @texasag1969 said:

    So the real question becomes how many teams really need a QB after the 12th overall. Can we get away with waiting until #33?

    I think some of the mocks are showing that now.

    Teams with most dire QB needs:

    Browns

    49ers

    Bears

    Jets

    Others that may be interested in developing a QB:

    Chargers

    Cardinals

    Texans

    Chiefs

    Saints

    Jags

    Steelers

    Giants

    Some of these latter teams have 35+ year old QBs...they need to start to think of the future...and may do so this year.

  • Why do I have the sinking feeling that 2 weeks from now, the Browns will have done nothing and they will be telling us to 'trust the process'?

    Hope I'm wrong, but............

    @d-bone said:

    Why do I have the sinking feeling that 2 weeks from now, the Browns will have done nothing and they will be telling us to 'trust the process'?

    Hope I'm wrong, but............

    Because their analytics will supposedly tell them not to spend an additional farthing more than their math computation says to....and they are slaves to their mathematics....which of course means that they exercise poor human judgment.

  • You've clearly missed the Britt news then because that has nothing to do with maths and supposed value I'm sure.

    Analytics is a word thrown around and 99.9999% of you have no idea what it is meant to mean.

  • @jrb12711 said:

    It may have been posted somewhere else, but the Browns met privately with Joe Mixon (aka the woman basher) before his pro day:

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2017/story/_/id/18850454/joe-mixon-met-privately-cincinnati-bengals-cleveland-browns-detroit-lions-new-orleans-saints-ahead-pro-day

    Disheartening to me to say the least. I understand it's just a meeting and could mean nothing but I don't get why you meet with the dude at all. That's a nightmare PR scenario waiting to happen.

    The guy went through the legal system. The guy went through suspension for what he did in college.

    He has suffered through the reprimands that society and the college sport system saw fit.

    Should he now be barred forever from attaining some kind of living doing what he is good at?

    After you beat your wife were you allowed to go back to your job...or at least pursue a job in your field of endeavour?

    @the-gipper said:

    The guy went through the legal system. The guy went through suspension for what he did in college.

    He has suffered through the reprimands that society and the college sport system saw fit.

    Should he now be barred forever from attaining some kind of living doing what he is good at?

    After you beat your wife were you allowed to go back to your job...or at least pursue a job in your field of endeavour?

    So have a lot of guys, but some people just aren't worth the backlash they will bring to your organization. It's just not worth it.

    Also, I tell students all the time there are such things as non-negotiable mistakes. I would classify punching a woman in the face so hard she can't eat out of it as pretty fucking bad.

  • Patriots swapping Malcolm Butler for Brandin Cooks ....already signing Allen and Gilmore ....... Pats making deals like a 1-15 team ....

  • @the-gipper said:

    The guy went through the legal system. The guy went through suspension for what he did in college.

    He has suffered through the reprimands that society and the college sport system saw fit.

    Should he now be barred forever from attaining some kind of living doing what he is good at?

    After you beat your wife were you allowed to go back to your job...or at least pursue a job in your field of endeavour?

    So have a lot of guys, but some people just aren't worth the backlash they will bring to your organization. It's just not worth it.

    Also, I tell students all the time there are such things as non-negotiable mistakes. I would classify punching a woman in the face so hard she can't eat out of it as pretty fucking bad.

    @jrb12711 said:

    So have a lot of guys, but some people just aren't worth the backlash they will bring to your organization. It's just not worth it.

    Also, I tell students all the time there are such things as non-negotiable mistakes. I would classify punching a woman in the face so hard she can't eat out of it as pretty fucking bad.

  • Rams have signed Robert Woods

    Eagles have signed Torrey Smith

    Bills cut safety Aaron Williams

  • Patriots swapping Malcolm Butler for Brandin Cooks ....already signing Allen and Gilmore ....... Pats making deals like a 1-15 team ....

    @darren15 said:

    Patriots swapping Malcolm Butler for Brandin Cooks ....already signing Allen and Gilmore ....... Pats making deals like a 1-15 team ....

    Trade hasn't happend yet. Cooks is on a cheap deal and Butler is restricted this year. The Saints are on the fence for this one.

  • Saints have signed Ted Ginn and expect to trade Cooks away by tonight.

    Have to wonder why they want him gone so (or so it seems) badly

  • You've clearly missed the Britt news then because that has nothing to do with maths and supposed value I'm sure.

    Analytics is a word thrown around and 99.9999% of you have no idea what it is meant to mean.

    @londonbrown said:

    You've clearly missed the Britt news then because that has nothing to do with maths and supposed value I'm sure.

    Analytics is a word thrown around and 99.9999% of you have no idea what it is meant to mean.

    ?? We think Pryor is worth X. Doesn't want it. Britt is Pryor clone (in FO minds). Will take Pryor's X dollars. SCREAMS analytics.

  • Saints have signed Ted Ginn and expect to trade Cooks away by tonight.

    Have to wonder why they want him gone so (or so it seems) badly

    @londonbrown said:

    Saints have signed Ted Ginn and expect to trade Cooks away by tonight.

    Have to wonder why they want him gone so (or so it seems) badly

    Pat's offense will average 30-40 a game next year. With Gronk back and Cooks and Allen added as well. Possibly Peterson going there. The rich will get richer.

  • @londonbrown said:

    You've clearly missed the Britt news then because that has nothing to do with maths and supposed value I'm sure.

    Analytics is a word thrown around and 99.9999% of you have no idea what it is meant to mean.

    ?? We think Pryor is worth X. Doesn't want it. Britt is Pryor clone (in FO minds). Will take Pryor's X dollars. SCREAMS analytics.

    @hoorta said:

    ?? We think Pryor is worth X. Doesn't want it. Britt is Pryor clone (in FO minds). Will take Pryor's X dollars.

    Pryor thinks he's worth Y....team says go find a team willing to pay you Y. We will take X and give it to a guy who has the same production/basically the same age/ and more than one year at the WR position. In other words, the Browns know what they're getting in Britt...Pryor is a huge unknown. One year doesn't make a career. Could be Randy Moss....could be a one hit wonder.

  • @londonbrown said:

    You've clearly missed the Britt news then because that has nothing to do with maths and supposed value I'm sure.

    Analytics is a word thrown around and 99.9999% of you have no idea what it is meant to mean.

    ?? We think Pryor is worth X. Doesn't want it. Britt is Pryor clone (in FO minds). Will take Pryor's X dollars. SCREAMS analytics.

    @hoorta said:

    ?? We think Pryor is worth X. Doesn't want it. Britt is Pryor clone (in FO minds). Will take Pryor's X dollars. SCREAMS analytics.

    Britt only like 9 months older than Pryor.

    Pryor is 6'4

    Britt is 6'3

    Britt runs a 4.5 40

    Pryor ran a 4.38 40

    Pryor a slight bit better on the stats above.....but Britt is the far more accomplished player to date.

    So, it could be a pretty even steven trade off. The Browns may even have done a scoche better.

  • Nick Fairley signing with the Saints

  • @hoorta said:

    ?? We think Pryor is worth X. Doesn't want it. Britt is Pryor clone (in FO minds). Will take Pryor's X dollars. SCREAMS analytics.

    Britt only like 9 months older than Pryor.

    Pryor is 6'4

    Britt is 6'3

    Britt runs a 4.5 40

    Pryor ran a 4.38 40

    Pryor a slight bit better on the stats above.....but Britt is the far more accomplished player to date.

    So, it could be a pretty even steven trade off. The Browns may even have done a scoche better.

    @the-gipper said:

    Britt only like 9 months older than Pryor.

    Pryor is 6'4

    Britt is 6'3

    Britt runs a 4.5 40

    Pryor ran a 4.38 40

    Pryor a slight bit better on the stats above.....but Britt is the far more accomplished player to date.

    So, it could be a pretty even steven trade off. The Browns may even have done a scoche better.

    Totally agree. I would have the exact same feeling had the headline of been 'Browns resign TP'........ But I don't look at the world through OSU colored eyeballz like some here do.

  • Seems like the Mike Glennon to Bears is a done deal. Could take them out of the High QB draft derby:

    https://sports.yahoo.com/news/chicago-bears-outbid-nobody-sign-145416515.html

  • @cambridgeho said:

    A target for us. Jefferson also out.

    What's up with the Cyprien deal?