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  • @the-gipper said:

    Shon Coleman definitely will compete....and maybe Drango. I expect Coleman to start performing well now in his second year. Remember how the Schwartz was considered perhaps a bad pick after his rookie year...but came on in year 2? I expect/hope the same for both Coleman and Drango.

    Remember....Coleman and Drango are this FO's "guys". Erving is not. Erving has a much, much shorter leash.

    Would not be surprised to see him dumped....if not soon...perhaps even cut in training camp.

    Coleman really needed a year to bulk up a bit more, if he has done that he should be able to become a solid contributor.

    alporciniA alporcini wrote on last edited by
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    @bbedward said:

    Coleman really needed a year to bulk up a bit more, if he has done that he should be able to become a solid contributor.

    My buddy is dyed in the wool Auburn freak... Has oohed and ahhed about Coleman since the day we drafted him. Kid has a BIG rep in Alabama. Tide went for him HARD.

  • @bbedward said:

    Coleman really needed a year to bulk up a bit more, if he has done that he should be able to become a solid contributor.

    My buddy is dyed in the wool Auburn freak... Has oohed and ahhed about Coleman since the day we drafted him. Kid has a BIG rep in Alabama. Tide went for him HARD.

    U Unsympathetic wrote on last edited by
    #25

    @alporcini said:

    Tide went for him HARD.

    This is a great story with tremendous insight regarding the 2017 Cleveland Browns.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
    #26

    No reason to get snarky...

    In related(?) news...

    We just claimed a Center off Waivers from SF...

    Another Browns OL move: the team has claimed former 49ers C Marcus Martin off of waivers, per source.

  • No reason to get snarky...

    In related(?) news...

    We just claimed a Center off Waivers from SF...

    Another Browns OL move: the team has claimed former 49ers C Marcus Martin off of waivers, per source.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by
    #27

    @tour2ma said:

    No reason to get snarky...

    In related(?) news...

    We just claimed a Center off Waivers from SF...

    Another Browns OL move: the team has claimed former 49ers C Marcus Martin off of waivers, per source.

    Tour:

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
    #28

    Never watched that show, Ag...

    But turns out our other new Center is out of USC and was NFLDraftScout's #1 Center in the 2014 Draft Class.

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=119877&draftyear=2014&genpos=C

  • Never watched that show, Ag...

    But turns out our other new Center is out of USC and was NFLDraftScout's #1 Center in the 2014 Draft Class.

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=119877&draftyear=2014&genpos=C

    LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
    #29

    @tour2ma said:

    Never watched that show, Ag...

    But turns out our other new Center is out of USC and was NFLDraftScout's #1 Center in the 2014 Draft Class.

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=119877&draftyear=2014&genpos=C

    Did some reading about him. He sounds an awful lot like Erving but the Browns have nothing in the guy. Kick the tires.

  • OrionO Orion wrote on last edited by
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    All of these OL signings are good news. Plenty of competition at Center. The Guard position is improved. Greco can now heal properly and backup Guard and Center. Erving is gonna have to be a respectable RT or he's gonna be another 1st round pick casualty. (Erving not tied to this regime, obviously)

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    Yup... Greco to the PUP list seems a likely "stash". As a true OG/OT swingman, Drango looks to be the safest non-starter.

    Resolving our OT depth is going to be interesting.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
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    Article on Tretter and Zeitler with a bunch of gif highlights... and some really bad "analysis".

    http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/03/kevin_zeitler_jc_tretter_cleve.html

    Never saw Tretter drive block and only one example of him anchoring... and in that one instance I really am not sure the NT was giving his all. Did see him hold... twice...

    The guy looks quick and agile just as a ZBS Center should for a ZBS team, which the Packers are, but we're a power run game team, so we shall see.

    Zeitler? No brainer... although I've no idea what he and the OT were doing on their pull left. It almost looked like Zeit handed off the CB by design... weird..

  • Can't see us seriously getting Zeitler now. But that's ok...center was a mess last year, and now it's not. And Austin Reiter could be a nice backup option.

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by
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    @jiggins7919 said:

    ...center was a mess last year, and now it's not. And Austin Reiter could be a nice backup option.

    Yep....nice add......though, I thought Reiter was the answer....

    @tour2ma said:

    Tretter? Nice piece, but nothing to get to excited about. I think the starting Center battle will be closer than the RT one. Don't forget Fabiano...

    Reiters the guy.....wait, it's Tretter.....and now Fabiano????

    @tour2ma said:

    No reason to get snarky...

    We just claimed a Center off Waivers from SF...

    Another Browns OL move: the team has claimed former 49ers C Marcus Martin off of waivers, per source.

    HA!....I now love snarky......πŸ˜‰

    and now we claim ANOTHER center????......which makes 4?.....the WR's are jealous......

    So Reiter obviously isnt the guy......or else why add 3 more?......

    It's good to see them trying.......I admit that....but, like the WR thing last year, it sometimes feels like these guys dont trust their own judgement, and therefore, collect as much shit as possible to throw at that big wall down in Berea....

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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    You could start a plantation with all those strawmen.

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    ...center was a mess last year, and now it's not. And Austin Reiter could be a nice backup option.

    Yep....nice add......though, I thought Reiter was the answer....

    @tour2ma said:

    Tretter? Nice piece, but nothing to get to excited about. I think the starting Center battle will be closer than the RT one. Don't forget Fabiano...

    Reiters the guy.....wait, it's Tretter.....and now Fabiano????

    @tour2ma said:

    No reason to get snarky...

    We just claimed a Center off Waivers from SF...

    Another Browns OL move: the team has claimed former 49ers C Marcus Martin off of waivers, per source.

    HA!....I now love snarky......πŸ˜‰

    and now we claim ANOTHER center????......which makes 4?.....the WR's are jealous......

    So Reiter obviously isnt the guy......or else why add 3 more?......

    It's good to see them trying.......I admit that....but, like the WR thing last year, it sometimes feels like these guys dont trust their own judgement, and therefore, collect as much shit as possible to throw at that big wall down in Berea....

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
    #35

    @mudfly said:

    Reiters the guy.....wait, it's Tretter.....and now Fabiano???? and now we claim ANOTHER center????......which makes 4?.....the WR's are jealous......

    So Reiter obviously isnt the guy......or else why add 3 more?......

    It's good to see them trying.......I admit that....but, like the WR thing last year, it sometimes feels like these guys dont trust their own judgement, and therefore, collect as much shit as possible to throw at that big wall down in Berea...

    Pretty sure no one said anyone was "the guy" at Center. Some, including me, have said that both Reiter and Fabs looked promising in limited auditions. Good enough that with Greco coming back a Center was not a top priority.

    Depending on how you want to look at it, a case can be made our FO agreed or disagreed with the above. While they were not comfortable standing pat (disagreed) the cost of signing Tretter was modest so it's not as if he was highly recruited (agreed). It could also be that Greco is not rehabbing as well as hoped and is heading towards the PUP list, in which case we have room for one more.

    While I'd think we can safely pencil in Tretter as of now at #1 Center, it looks like at least a 2-way competition to me... and maybe a 3-way.

    As for the waiver signing? Who knows? Perhaps we weren't the only one interested, or a team has asked about Reiter or Fabs.

    After all, we don't have a pick in the 7th round... and this is a pretty weak OL draft.

  • @mudfly said:

    Reiters the guy.....wait, it's Tretter.....and now Fabiano???? and now we claim ANOTHER center????......which makes 4?.....the WR's are jealous......

    So Reiter obviously isnt the guy......or else why add 3 more?......

    It's good to see them trying.......I admit that....but, like the WR thing last year, it sometimes feels like these guys dont trust their own judgement, and therefore, collect as much shit as possible to throw at that big wall down in Berea...

    Pretty sure no one said anyone was "the guy" at Center. Some, including me, have said that both Reiter and Fabs looked promising in limited auditions. Good enough that with Greco coming back a Center was not a top priority.

    Depending on how you want to look at it, a case can be made our FO agreed or disagreed with the above. While they were not comfortable standing pat (disagreed) the cost of signing Tretter was modest so it's not as if he was highly recruited (agreed). It could also be that Greco is not rehabbing as well as hoped and is heading towards the PUP list, in which case we have room for one more.

    While I'd think we can safely pencil in Tretter as of now at #1 Center, it looks like at least a 2-way competition to me... and maybe a 3-way.

    As for the waiver signing? Who knows? Perhaps we weren't the only one interested, or a team has asked about Reiter or Fabs.

    After all, we don't have a pick in the 7th round... and this is a pretty weak OL draft.

    MudflyM Mudfly wrote on last edited by Mudfly
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    @tour2ma said:

    Pretty sure no one said anyone was "the guy" at Center.

    Some have.....but thats Ok, cause I didnt believe em....

    Like I said....no issues with the signings......4 new FA o-linemen is 4 better than last year.....so Ill take it...love it....keep it up...

    I hope they go sign 12 new OLB's too.....lets keep the acquisition train rolling....safeties anyone??

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    ...center was a mess last year, and now it's not. And Austin Reiter could be a nice backup option.

    Yep....nice add......though, I thought Reiter was the answer....

    @tour2ma said:

    Tretter? Nice piece, but nothing to get to excited about. I think the starting Center battle will be closer than the RT one. Don't forget Fabiano...

    Reiters the guy.....wait, it's Tretter.....and now Fabiano????

    @tour2ma said:

    No reason to get snarky...

    We just claimed a Center off Waivers from SF...

    Another Browns OL move: the team has claimed former 49ers C Marcus Martin off of waivers, per source.

    HA!....I now love snarky......πŸ˜‰

    and now we claim ANOTHER center????......which makes 4?.....the WR's are jealous......

    So Reiter obviously isnt the guy......or else why add 3 more?......

    It's good to see them trying.......I admit that....but, like the WR thing last year, it sometimes feels like these guys dont trust their own judgement, and therefore, collect as much shit as possible to throw at that big wall down in Berea....

    FlugelF Flugel wrote on last edited by Flugel
    #37

    @mudfly said:

    Yep....nice add......though, I thought Reiter was the answer....

    Reiters the guy.....wait, it's Tretter.....and now Fabiano????

    HA!....I now love snarky...... πŸ˜‰

    and now we claim ANOTHER center????......which makes 4?.....the WR's are jealous......

    So Reiter obviously isnt the guy......or else why add 3 more?......

    It's good to see them trying.......I admit that....but, like the WR thing last year, it sometimes feels like these guys dont trust their own judgement, and therefore, collect as much shit as possible to throw at that big wall down in Berea....

    Do you really love snarky or mud wrestling in the mosh pit? I saw you busting your buddy Flugel's balls with the Reiter comments you instigator and it sent a mouth full of hot coffee through my nostrils.

    You're going to be real proud of me so brace yourself. Tretter is also coming off a season ending knee injury that required reconstructive surgery like Reiter did. And when Corey Linsley took back over the Center position, shortly thereafter GB's offense began to heat up whether it's just a coincidence or not. So, I'm going to hold off on prematurely calling this an upgrade over Reiter or Fabiano (above and beyond just starting experience). I'll take the depth improvement but I hope we don't race Greco out of town just yet. If healthy - Thomas,Bitonio,Greco,Zeitler,Coleman seems like a nice idea on paper. If memory serves me right, Greco was an OT in college if Fabs/Reiter/Tretter can take over at Center and Coleman needs more time or fails.

    We shall see...

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #38

    No one said anyone was the guy. They just said we have a lot of options that have played ok when called upon. Like I said, lots of straw men here.

  • cambridgehoC cambridgeho wrote on last edited by
    #39

    Packers lost Lang today as well.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by Tour2ma
    #40

    I am pretty sure we all said Cam is not the guy... so we can rally around that.

    Some of us just said it a helluva lot sooner than others... 😎

  • T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
    #41

    Interesting article on how Tretter's contract with the Browns works:

    http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/3/12/14903842/breakdown-of-c-j-c-tretters-contract-with-the-browns

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
    #42

    @texasag1969 said:

    Interesting article on how Tretter's contract with the Browns works:

    http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/3/12/14903842/breakdown-of-c-j-c-tretters-contract-with-the-browns

    The escalator clause is interesting...

    According to Pro Football Talk, there is an annual $500,000 escalator available in Tretter’s contract that is tied to playing time.