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Browns trade for BROCK OSWEILER

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  • @jiggins7919 said:

    Everything I'm reading says we're not getting JG from Pats. Is that true? Obviously we have no idea, but it'd be nice if there was SOMETHING cooking regarding our acquisition of this guy. As it stands now, we have released RG III, we traded for Brock who we're looking to dump, and Josh McCown is gone as well. So right now we have Cody Kessler and Kevin Hogan on the roster. Not exactly the shining example of QB prosperity. So if it's NOT JG, then are we rolling into 2017 with Kessler starting while a rookie we draft learns? I guess it's possible the new rookie beats Cody out, but I wouldn't count on it. Again, not exactly making me excited. So I guess my point is....who the hell is going to start for us? lol

    The answer to your question is yes, we can certainly roll with Kessler this year, or you notice the Browns invested heavily in building a bulletproof cockpit for whoever starts? Draft the QBOTF and let him sit- like the Rams did with Goff. Anyone who thinks you draft a qb in round one, and he has to start day one hasn't been paying attention. Wentz wouldn't have started either except for injuries.

    To an extent I can see why some of the posters here have fallen into the Jimmy love affair trap, though reason (on past performance of departed New England backups) (limited resume- Scott Mitchell anyone?) and logic (if Garropolo is a true franchise qb, why is Bill shopping him when Brady turns 40 this year) should give anyone pause to think about it. As far as something cooking,did anyone see the Osweiler trade coming before it happened? When I first heard about it, I thought it was an April Fools joke a few weeks early.

    Or see my above post- short of the Browns having an unexpected great season- they have enough draft capital in 2018 to draft darn near any qb they have a fancy for.

    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by

    @hoorta said:

    or you notice the Browns invested heavily in building a bulletproof cockpit for whoever starts?

    Yeah im gonna have to have that one proven first before i call any pocket created by a browns o line "bulletproof". We've had good talent on the line before and gotten less than mediocre results.

  • @jiggins7919 said:

    ? A fourth round pick, and we wouldn't do it. Ouch.

    can you verify that? i remember when there was cousins talk but i don't remember no 4th round pick. Washington wanted alot more than just that if my mem serves me.

    chocoC choco wrote on last edited by

    @clevfan4life said:

    can you verify that? i remember when there was cousins talk but i don't remember no 4th round pick. Washington wanted alot more than just that if my mem serves me.

    No, it's not correct. We offered, they said no.

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/browns-offered-redskins-fourth-round-pick-for-kirk-cousins/amp/

  • @d-bone said:

    ^ E X A C T L Y !!

    Get Well soon!! For visual sake please have Z change your name temporary to Got Milk? Got Boned? how bout Da' Bone? 😎 heal up. ghools is looking a Evil Knievel on roster

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by

    @gumby73 said:

    Get Well soon!! For visual sake please have Z change your name temporary to Got Milk? Got Boned? how bout Da' Bone? 😎 heal up. ghools is looking a Evil Knievel on roster

    lol!! Thanks brother! I've had many broken bones in my 49yrs on 2 wheels, but these are my first ribs...... They suck.

  • Tim Couch Pulls OutT Tim Couch Pulls Out wrote on last edited by

    @boo-fagley said:

    Short changing yourself arent you?

    Osewieller straight up for Garropolo and Gordon for Gronk is fair.

    Nah, I'm good on Gronk

  • @tour2ma said:

    Yeah, he did... just being an ass taking a rule of thumb to an extreme because he thinks he scored a point. Pfffft...

    Because hyperbolic arguments contain some new form of validity?
    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @choco said:

    Because hyperbolic arguments contain some new form of validity?

    That's my best guess as well...

  • @gumby73 said:

    Get Well soon!! For visual sake please have Z change your name temporary to Got Milk? Got Boned? how bout Da' Bone? 😎 heal up. ghools is looking a Evil Knievel on roster

    lol!! Thanks brother! I've had many broken bones in my 49yrs on 2 wheels, but these are my first ribs...... They suck.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by

    @d-bone said:

    lol!! Thanks brother! I've had many broken bones in my 49yrs on 2 wheels, but these are my first ribs...... They suck.

    Just don't catch a sneezy cold D. Once broke a rib oversliding head first into second base. Sneezing sucks with a broken rib. Big time.

  • @hoorta said:

    or you notice the Browns invested heavily in building a bulletproof cockpit for whoever starts?

    Yeah im gonna have to have that one proven first before i call any pocket created by a browns o line "bulletproof". We've had good talent on the line before and gotten less than mediocre results.

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @clevfan4life said:

    We've had good talent on the line before and gotten less than mediocre results.

    We have?

  • @hoorta said:

    or you notice the Browns invested heavily in building a bulletproof cockpit for whoever starts?

    Yeah im gonna have to have that one proven first before i call any pocket created by a browns o line "bulletproof". We've had good talent on the line before and gotten less than mediocre results.

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by

    @clevfan4life said:

    Yeah im gonna have to have that one proven first before i call any pocket created by a browns o line "bulletproof". We've had good talent on the line before and gotten less than mediocre results.

    @tour2ma said:

    We have?

    Regarding the o-line, it's the old saw the chain is only as strong as the weakest link. Yeah Thomas, Bitonio, and Mack are individually pro bowl. Do you think an opposing defensive coordinator is going to bother attacking a strength? Nope, we're heading through unabated on the garbage right side. 🙂

    Currently, the only question is going to be at right tackle. I should add Barnidge is a liability if he's called on to block.

  • @d-bone said:

    lol!! Thanks brother! I've had many broken bones in my 49yrs on 2 wheels, but these are my first ribs...... They suck.

    Just don't catch a sneezy cold D. Once broke a rib oversliding head first into second base. Sneezing sucks with a broken rib. Big time.

    D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by D Bone

    @texasag1969 said:

    Just don't catch a sneezy cold D. Once broke a rib oversliding head first into second base. Sneezing sucks with a broken rib. Big time.

    Sounds like you totally get it! 😁 I have prevented two already..... I've never pushed my tongue against the roof of my mouth so hard.

  • Mr. Make-BelieveM Mr. Make-Believe wrote on last edited by

    @boo-fagley said:

    If this deal goes down and NE receives a 2018 1st round selection from Cleveland not a single NFL website with sanity will record the pick as a 2nd rounder.

    NOBODY.

    Why do you even continue?

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    "boo's gonna need a bigger font..." - Chief Brody

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by

    @boo-fagley said:

    If this deal goes down and NE receives a 2018 1st round selection from Cleveland not a single NFL website with sanity will record the pick as a 2nd rounder.

    NOBODY.

    True...

    Also true? No one will "record it" as a 2017 1st rounder...

  • chocoC choco wrote on last edited by

    @boo-fagley said:

    If this deal goes down and NE receives a 2018 1st round selection from Cleveland not a single NFL website with sanity will record the pick as a 2nd rounder.

    NOBODY.

    how does the manner in which websites track assets have anything to do with the real time value of said asset?
  • darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by


    Interesting. @AllbrightNFL just told @NickWilson923 there was a team that called the Browns to trade a late pick for Osweiler w/no eating $$


  • B BaconHound wrote on last edited by

    I was watching Jeopardy last night and the clue was "Only team willing to trade for Brock Osweiler" and we all know the answer.

  • chocoC choco wrote on last edited by choco

    It was a creative way of using an extra asset (cap rollover) to acquire a draft pick. Use it or lose it. Shrewd bending of the rules. Otherwise, jimmuh pockets that money.

    If anything, it shows he ain't being cheap.

    How exactly did this trade hurt the brown?

  • It was a creative way of using an extra asset (cap rollover) to acquire a draft pick. Use it or lose it. Shrewd bending of the rules. Otherwise, jimmuh pockets that money.

    If anything, it shows he ain't being cheap.

    How exactly did this trade hurt the brown?

    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by

    @choco said:

    It was a creative way of using an extra asset (cap rollover) to acquire a draft pick. Use it or lose it. Shrewd bending of the rules. Otherwise, jimmuh pockets that money.

    If anything, it shows he ain't being cheap.

    How exactly did this trade hurt the brown?

    Because they whiffed on a serious piece like Tony Jefferson, added a journeyman underachiever like Kenny Britt and will use this as somehow proving they know what the fuck they're doing.

    Great they are smart enough to spend $16 million of money they refuse to allocate on real talent to draft another Shon Coleman, kudos to the back office

  • chocoC choco wrote on last edited by

    Oh god, you're one of those?

    Jefferson took less money to play with the Ravens. What, exactly, the fuck, are the browns supposed to do? Player also have a choice in this dance...Were not the prettiest girl in the room. Your whining is petty and unrealistic.

  • Oh god, you're one of those?

    Jefferson took less money to play with the Ravens. What, exactly, the fuck, are the browns supposed to do? Player also have a choice in this dance...Were not the prettiest girl in the room. Your whining is petty and unrealistic.

    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by

    @choco said:

    Oh god, you're one of those?

    Jefferson took less money to play with the Ravens. What, exactly, the fuck, are the browns supposed to do? Player also have a choice in this dance...Were not the prettiest girl in the room. Your whining is petty and unrealistic.

    You overpay like they did for Collins & Taylor. That's what you do when your organization is a tire fire but hey we spent $16 million of unallocated resources for #55 in 2018

  • chocoC choco wrote on last edited by

    No, that's what silly fans do with no executive experience when discussing other people money.