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  • If this much emphasis is going to be placed on a radar gun reading, the NFL ought to take control of the measurement process.

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    If this much emphasis is going to be placed on a radar gun reading, the NFL ought to take control of the measurement process.

    @tour2ma said:

    If this much emphasis is going to be placed on a radar gun reading, the NFL ought to take control of the measurement process.

    LOL-and I'm still keeping him as my "Dak" pick for this year.

  • He is a gamer. Played agAinst best college defenses and came out with clutch wins when needed.

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  • LBC mikeL LBC mike

    He is a gamer. Played agAinst best college defenses and came out with clutch wins when needed.

    @lbc-mike said:

    He is a gamer. Played agAinst best college defenses and came out with clutch wins when needed.

    Kiper, is that you?

  • @londonbrown said:

    What the fuck is your problem all of a sudden?

    All of a sudden?

    I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride
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    @londonbrown said:

    What the fuck is your problem all of a sudden?

    All of a sudden?

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    All of a sudden?

    I've spoken to him often on here before without any ill feeling.

  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    If this much emphasis is going to be placed on a radar gun reading, the NFL ought to take control of the measurement process.

    @tour2ma said:

    If this much emphasis is going to be placed on a radar gun reading, the NFL ought to take control of the measurement process.

    What makes you think they don't have control over it? Weren't these readings done at the Combine...which is totally NFL controlled?

  • Iirc, it's a timed pass, not radar.

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  • LBC mikeL LBC mike

    He is a gamer. Played agAinst best college defenses and came out with clutch wins when needed.

    @lbc-mike said:

    He is a gamer. Played against best college defenses and came out with clutch wins when needed.

    True enough- how much weight do you want to put on that though?

  • hoortaH hoorta

    @lbc-mike said:

    He is a gamer. Played against best college defenses and came out with clutch wins when needed.

    True enough- how much weight do you want to put on that though?

    @hoorta said:

    True enough- how much weight do you want to put on that though?

    hard to say...wasn't one of the knocks on Peyton Manning coming out of college was that he couldn't win big games? How did that turn out for everyone?

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  • chocoC choco

    Iirc, it's a timed pass, not radar.

    @choco said:

    Iirc, it's a timed pass, not radar.

    Really? As in thrown thru paired electric eyes?

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  • Mark OM Mark O

    @hoorta said:

    True enough- how much weight do you want to put on that though?

    hard to say...wasn't one of the knocks on Peyton Manning coming out of college was that he couldn't win big games? How did that turn out for everyone?

    @mark-o said:

    hard to say...wasn't one of the knocks on Peyton Manning coming out of college was that he couldn't win big games? How did that turn out for everyone?

    Everyone didn't get a chance to draft him - he still went first overall.

    Manning also succeeded because he's an extremely cerebral quarterback with an NFL QB for a father and an American football supercomputer for a brain. And it doesn't hurt that he's 6'5" and has a decently powerful arm (a general ball velocity in the upper 50's IIRC).

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @choco said:

    Iirc, it's a timed pass, not radar.

    Really? As in thrown thru paired electric eyes?

    @tour2ma said:

    Really? As in thrown thru paired electric eyes?

    There was some debate, but it appears it is measure via radar according to Outlands.com....Only things I've found so far.
  • chocoC choco

    @tour2ma said:

    Really? As in thrown thru paired electric eyes?

    There was some debate, but it appears it is measure via radar according to Outlands.com....Only things I've found so far.

    @choco said:

    There was some debate, but it appears it is measure via radar according to Outlands.com....Only things I've found so far.

    Ourlads running the whole show using a Juggs gun was what I read a little bit ago. That was the basis for my comment that the NFL needs to take this over if it's to be "a thing" with any importance attached to it.

    You set up in a smaller space, let the QBs warm up, make five measured, 20-yd throws and publish the raw results... that day.

    The week-long delay between the Combine measurement and publishing the data in a tweet or two makes no sense to me.

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    @mark-o said:

    hard to say...wasn't one of the knocks on Peyton Manning coming out of college was that he couldn't win big games? How did that turn out for everyone?

    Everyone didn't get a chance to draft him - he still went first overall.

    Manning also succeeded because he's an extremely cerebral quarterback with an NFL QB for a father and an American football supercomputer for a brain. And it doesn't hurt that he's 6'5" and has a decently powerful arm (a general ball velocity in the upper 50's IIRC).

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Everyone didn't get a chance to draft him - he still went first overall.

    Manning also succeeded because he's an extremely cerebral quarterback with an NFL QB for a father and an American football supercomputer for a brain. And it doesn't hurt that he's 6'5" and has a decently powerful arm (a general ball velocity in the upper 50's IIRC).

    I agree with all of that. Just was saying there were still knocks on him coming out for not winning in college.

  • I agree Tour and he's still Dak 2.0. 😁

  • T TexasAg1969

    I agree Tour and he's still Dak 2.0. 😁

    @texasag1969 said:

    I agree Tour and he's still Dak 2.0. 😁

    Wah? Watson is Dak 2.0? That kinda rambling will cost you your Dak Fan Club Charter Member status...

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  • I still like Trubisky, Watson and Peterman.

    In that order and none of the other guys.

  • I cycled through about 5 different post combine mocks today, and almost all of them had Watson as the first QB selected, either by the Jets or the Browns. I think there was only one mock that had the Jets taking Trubisky as the first QB off the board. In that mock, the reference was a tweet from Allbright (the author of the spreadsheet referenced above) who asserted that the Jets want Trubisky. In all of the mocks, Kizer ended up with the Texans at 25, except one which had the Texans selecting Kizer at 57. Also, it appears that Mahomes is now being considered either the 2nd or 3rd QB, as a majority of the mocks had him going in the early teens, commonly to the Cardinals, once to the Saints at 32.

    One of the write-ups expresses how impressed teams were with Watson's interview process. There was an anonymous nfl official cited who went as far to say that Deshaun was as impressive as any prospect he had ever met with, including Peyton Manning. If all of that is true, that's the kind of report that would take a little bit of the sting off of a Watson selection at 12. While I'd still prefer to take a chance that one of the top 4 Qbs will fall out of the first round completely. I know Kizer isn't very popular around here, but I'd still much rather have Kizer in the 2nd, than any of the others in the first.

  • lol... this time of year you can and will find every evaluation/opinion on every player possible... excepting the select few, "elite" prospects.

    List those about which you've not heard a dissenting opinion...

    • Myles Garrett
    • Jamal Adams
    • Marshon Latimore

    Am I missing anyone?

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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