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  • If the objective is to end up with the best 64 in the country, having two 11's play for the right to be one of those 64 guarantees that you will fail to meet your objective.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #20

    @tour2ma said:

    If the objective is to end up with the best 64 in the country, having two 11's play for the right to be one of those 64 guarantees that you will fail to meet your objective.

    That is NOT the objective. The objective is to have 36 leagues with their automatic qualifiers participate where then that is whittled down to 34 with two of them eliminated in the "First Four" round; then to select the next 32 best at large teams and to eliminate 2 of them in that First round. Thus...the objective is to have 34 AQ's plus 30 at large teams make up the Round of 64.

    If they wanted the best 64...then about 15-20 leagues would have no participants in the tourney. And that is not what they want.

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #21

    Princeton gave Notre Dame all it can handle. Lost by only 60-58.

    UNC Wilmington giving Virginia all it can handle. Only a 3 pt. game with about 5 minutes left.

  • I don't get these "First Four" play-in games for anything, but a 16th seed. Having two teams play for an 11 doesn't seem right.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
    #22

    @tour2ma said:

    I don't get these "First Four" play-in games for anything, but a 16th seed. Having two teams play for an 11 doesn't seem right.

    I agree it's like adding extra wild card games, 64 should be enough.

    (and there's always the NIT)

  • @tour2ma said:

    I don't get these "First Four" play-in games for anything, but a 16th seed. Having two teams play for an 11 doesn't seem right.

    I agree it's like adding extra wild card games, 64 should be enough.

    (and there's always the NIT)

    Tour2maT Tour2ma wrote on last edited by
    #23

    @mjp28 said:

    I agree it's like adding extra wild card games, 64 should be enough.

    (and there's always the NIT)

    lol... Is the NIT still a thing? 😉 Sigh... I can remember when it was a big thing.

    As for the NCAA... all about the $$$. First it was one, play-in game... now four... and there was talk of more.

  • @mjp28 said:

    I agree it's like adding extra wild card games, 64 should be enough.

    (and there's always the NIT)

    lol... Is the NIT still a thing? 😉 Sigh... I can remember when it was a big thing.

    As for the NCAA... all about the $$$. First it was one, play-in game... now four... and there was talk of more.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #24

    @tour2ma said:

    lol... Is the NIT still a thing? 😉 Sigh... I can remember when it was a big thing.

    As for the NCAA... all about the $$$. First it was one, play-in game... now four... and there was talk of more.

    Some people must want to kill this now NCAA "cash cow" I've heard talk of up to 128 teams....that should eliminate a lot of casual fans and pick 'ems.

    Oh yeah the NIT used to be the big tournament at one time.

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #25

    Check out some of these NIT names:

    FIRST ROUND

    DATE TIME (ET) TV MATCHUP

    March 14 7 p.m. ESPN No. 2 Illinois 82, No. 7 Valparaiso 57

    March 14 7:15 p.m. ESPN2 No. 5 Mississippi 91, No. 4 Monmouth 83

    March 14 8 p.m. ESPNU No. 7 Oakland 74, No. 2 Clemson 69

    March 14 9 p.m. ESPN3 No. 4 Colorado State 81, No. 5 Charleston 74

    March 14 9 p.m. ESPN No. 6 Georgia Tech 75, No. 3 Indiana 63

    March 14 9:15 p.m. ESPN2 No. 6 Richmond 71, No. 3 Alabama 64

    March 14 10 p.m. ESPNU No. 6 Boise State 73, No. 3 Utah 68

    March 14 11:15 p.m. ESPN2 No. 8 CSU Bakersfield 73, No. 1 California 66

    March 15 7 p.m. ESPN2 No. 1 Syracuse 90, No. 8 UNCG 77

    March 15 7 p.m. ESPN3 No. 7 Belmont 78, No. 2 Georgia 69

    March 15 7 p.m. ESPN3 No. 4 UCF 79, No. 5 Colorado 74

    March 15 7:30 p.m. ESPNU No. 7 Akron 78, No. 2 Houston 75

    March 15 8 p.m. ESPN3 No. 4 TCU 66, No. 5 Fresno State 59

    March 15 9 p.m. ESPN2 No. 1 Iowa 87, No. 8 South Dakota 75

    March 15 9:30 p.m. ESPNU No. 1 Illinois State 85, No. 8 UC Irvine 71

    March 15 11 p.m. ESPN2 No. 6 UT Arlington 105, No. 3 BYU 85

    SECOND ROUND

    DATE TIME (ET) TV MATCHUP

    March 18 11 a.m. ESPN No. 1 Syracuse vs. No. 5 Mississippi

    March 19 Noon ESPN No. 6 Georgia Tech vs. No. 7 Belmont

    March 19 5 p.m. ESPN2 No. 1 Iowa vs. No. 4 TCU

    March 19 7:30 p.m. ESPNU No. 6 Richmond vs. No. 7 Oakland

    March 20 7 p.m. ESPN No. 1 Illinois State vs. No. 4 UCF

    March 20 8 p.m. ESPNU No. 6 UT Arlington vs. No. 7 Akron

    March 20 9 p.m. ESPN No. 2 Illinois vs. No. 6 Boise State

    March 20 11 p.m. ESPN2 No. 4 Colorado State vs. No. 8 CSU Bakersfield

    FINAL (AT MADISON SQUARE GARDEN)

    DATE TIME (ET) TV MATCHUP

    March 30 TBA TBA TBA

  • @mjp28 said:

    I agree it's like adding extra wild card games, 64 should be enough.

    (and there's always the NIT)

    lol... Is the NIT still a thing? 😉 Sigh... I can remember when it was a big thing.

    As for the NCAA... all about the $$$. First it was one, play-in game... now four... and there was talk of more.

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #26

    @tour2ma said:

    lol... Is the NIT still a thing? 😉 Sigh... I can remember when it was a big thing.

    As for the NCAA... all about the $$$. First it was one, play-in game... now four... and there was talk of more.

    Akron U beat Houston in the NIT last night....in Texas. Now they have to stay in Texas to play UT-Arlington.

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #27

    Butler beats Winthrop

    Gonzaga beats South Dakota St.

    Both games won handily.

  • @tour2ma said:

    lol... Is the NIT still a thing? 😉 Sigh... I can remember when it was a big thing.

    As for the NCAA... all about the $$$. First it was one, play-in game... now four... and there was talk of more.

    Akron U beat Houston in the NIT last night....in Texas. Now they have to stay in Texas to play UT-Arlington.

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #28

    @the-gipper said:

    Akron U beat Houston in the NIT last night....in Texas. Now they have to stay in Texas to play UT-Arlington.

    Good for them, check out some of the former NCAA perenienal teams in the NIT this year.

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #29

    West by God Virginia beats Bucknell.

    No upsets thus far. Though Minnesota is behind Middle Tenn St. at halftime. Minn. is a 5 seed, MTSU a 12.

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #30

    Woo-hoo the first 8 very early games:

    1 mjp #1 baby 8 192

    1 Zombomania 8 192

    1 Greg 916 8 192

    ....but the big points are later!

  • cambridgehoC cambridgeho wrote on last edited by
    #31

    Well I'm done.

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #32

    Wow what a close Round 1, let's see what happens next.

  • Wow what a close Round 1, let's see what happens next.

    gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by gumby73
    #33

    @mjp28 said:

    Wow what a close Round 1, let's see what happens next.

    this is when the front runners usually run off their rails..This could get Fun or the next bobby knight heaves a chair.Can't beat March Madness

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
    #34

    ROUND 2 SATURDAY - three B1G teams

    Notre Dame 12:10 PM West Virginia

    Wisconsin 2:40 PM Villanova

    Northwestern 5:15 PM Gonzaga

    Xavier 6:10 PM Florida State

    Middle TN 7:10 PM Butler

    Saint Mary's 7:45 PM Arizona

    Virginia 8:40 PM Florida

    Iowa State 9:40 PM Purdue

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #35

    ROUND 2 SUNDAY - two B1G teams

    Michigan 12:10 PM Louisville

    Wichita State 2:40 PM Kentucky

    Michigan State 5:15 PM Kansas

    Arkansas 6:10 PM North Carolina

    Rhode Island 7:10 PM Oregon

    USC 7:45 PM Baylor

    South Carolina 8:40 PM Duke

    Cincinnati 9:40 PM UCLA

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #36

    Day 3 - Wisconsin and Purdue survive, Northwestern's first ever dance is over.

    And I was tied for 11th at one point now tied for 5th, makes March Madness so much fun.

    Can't wait for Day 4 and Michigan and Michigan State.

  • ballpeenB ballpeen wrote on last edited by
    #37

    Villinova going down hurt me....had them winning it all...still good everywhere else.

  • mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by mjp28
    #38

    Thursdays Sweet 16 Tip Times

    7:09 p.m. CBS: No. 7 Michigan vs. No. 3 Oregon Kevin Harlan / Reggie Miller / Dan Bonner // Dana Jacobson

    7:39 p.m. TBS: No. 4 West Virginia vs. No. 1 Gonzaga Brian Anderson / Chris Webber // Lewis Johnson

    Approx. 9:39 p.m. CBS: No. 4 Purdue vs. No. 1 Kansas Kevin Harlan / Reggie Miller / Dan Bonner // Dana Jacobson

    Approx. 10:09 p.m. TBS: No. 11 Xavier vs. No. 2 Arizona Brian Anderson / Chris Webber // Lewis Johnson

    Fridays Sweet 16 Tip Times

    7:09 p.m. CBS: No. 4 Butler vs. No. 1 North Carolina: Jim Nantz / Grant Hill / Bill Raftery // Tracy Wolfson

    7:29 p.m. TBS: No. 7 South Carolina vs. No. 3 Baylor: Verne Lundquist /Jim Spanarkel // Allie LaForce

    Approx. 9:39 p.m. CBS: No. 3 UCLA vs. No. 2 Kentucky: Jim Nantz / Grant Hill / Bill Raftery // Tracy Wolfson

    Approx. 9:59 p.m. TBS: No. 8 Wisconsin vs. No. 4 Florida Verne Lundquist /Jim Spanarkel // Allie LaForce

  • Z Zombo wrote on last edited by
    #39
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