2017 OHIO STATE Football Schedule, how far do they go?
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Everyone is hating on us because we have the least returning starters in college football. I think.
Everyone is hating on us because we have the least returning starters in college football. I think.
That is not why "you" are hated.
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Everyone is hating on us because we have the least returning starters in college football. I think.
Not hating just an observation.
Not hating just an observation.
Well an observation resulting in lower rankings. I think it is an overreaction. We'll see.
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Well an observation resulting in lower rankings. I think it is an overreaction. We'll see.
Well 18 isn't so bad.
And almost two months until my favorite sport NCAA football!
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At first on the FPI 130 I thought the B10 was well represented but on closer inspection:
1 OSU
8 PSU
10 WIS
18 M
29 NW
39 IOW
57 NEB (miss Bo now?)
58 MST (really?)
60 IND
61 MIN
69 MAR (was MAR & RUT a total bust?)
83 ILL (ILLINI fans ill)
88 RUT
98 PUR (gave up football for engineering? )
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MST?
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OSU wins it all this year. UM won't even be invited to a bowl game.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
Composite Top 25 college football rankings from The Sporting News
TEAM POINTS
1. Alabama 147
2. Ohio State 142
3. Florida State 137
4. USC 134
5. Penn State 120
6. Clemson 119
7. Washington 111
8. Oklahoma 110
9. Oklahoma State 95
10. Auburn 92
11. Michigan 88
12. Wisconsin 80
13. LSU 76
14. Georgia 76
15. Stanford 67
16. Louisville 65
17. Kansas State 47
18. Florida 44
19. South Florida 43
20. Miami, Fla. 36
21. West Virginia 34
22. Texas 21
23. Tennessee 16
24. Oregon 14
25. Boise State 11
Composite Top 25 college football rankings from The Sporting News
TEAM POINTS
1. Alabama 147
2. Ohio State 142
3. Florida State 137
4. USC 134
5. Penn State 120
6. Clemson 119
7. Washington 111
8. Oklahoma 110
9. Oklahoma State 95
10. Auburn 92
11. Michigan 88
12. Wisconsin 80
13. LSU 76
14. Georgia 76
15. Stanford 67
16. Louisville 65
17. Kansas State 47
18. Florida 44
19. South Florida 43
20. Miami, Fla. 36
21. West Virginia 34
22. Texas 21
23. Tennessee 16
24. Oregon 14
25. Boise State 11
Lol. No matter what, Texas must be in every preseason football top 25. It is written in stone somewhere.
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Returning starters is traditionally a pretty good indicator...
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Traditionally, sure. There are a handful of exceptions in this case I'd argue
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Composite Top 25 college football rankings from The Sporting News
TEAM POINTS
1. Alabama 147
2. Ohio State 142
3. Florida State 137
4. USC 134
5. Penn State 120
6. Clemson 119
7. Washington 111
8. Oklahoma 110
9. Oklahoma State 95
10. Auburn 92
11. Michigan 88
12. Wisconsin 80
13. LSU 76
14. Georgia 76
15. Stanford 67
16. Louisville 65
17. Kansas State 47
18. Florida 44
19. South Florida 43
20. Miami, Fla. 36
21. West Virginia 34
22. Texas 21
23. Tennessee 16
24. Oregon 14
25. Boise State 11
Lol. No matter what, Texas must be in every preseason football top 25. It is written in stone somewhere.
Lol. No matter what, Texas must be in every preseason football top 25. It is written in stone somewhere.
But, apparently the same does not hold true for A&M. In fact, I note that UT or is it TU...is the only Texas school on the entire list.
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Traditionally, sure. There are a handful of exceptions in this case I'd argue
Some schools just reload. According to some, Alabama just lost an entire NFL defense to the pros...yet, they have the top ranking. Ohio State just lost 3 DBs to the first round....every one of which could have returned if they wanted to...and they still come in second place in this ranking.
Some other schools cannot do as well with a whole pile of losses to the pros or graduation. (Remains to be seen if Michigan is one of them. Of course, just in their division they have Penn St. and OSU rated ahead...and you have to ask yourself: can Michigan St. rebound after a bad year?)
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Both of those schools have established coaches. Harbaugh will just now be entering his third year here. Anyone the follows CFB and sees how he's recruiting will know we'll get to that reload stage.
Recently, and for another season or so, we'll be dealing with some gaps in talent left by the previous staff.
That's part of the reason I'd say this giant loss in starters won't be as bad in this situation as it would be normally.
OSU also has 15 returning starters to our 5. It makes sense they aren't dropping far in the rankings.
If you've been following everything going on in east Lansing, you'd know the chances of a bounce back year are slim.
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Both of those schools have established coaches. Harbaugh will just now be entering his third year here. Anyone the follows CFB and sees how he's recruiting will know we'll get to that reload stage.
Recently, and for another season or so, we'll be dealing with some gaps in talent left by the previous staff.
That's part of the reason I'd say this giant loss in starters won't be as bad in this situation as it would be normally.
OSU also has 15 returning starters to our 5. It makes sense they aren't dropping far in the rankings.
If you've been following everything going on in east Lansing, you'd know the chances of a bounce back year are slim.
Both of those schools have established coaches. Harbaugh will just now be entering his third year here. Anyone the follows CFB and sees how he's recruiting will know we'll get to that reload stage.
Recently, and for another season or so, we'll be dealing with some gaps in talent left by the previous staff.
That's part of the reason I'd say this giant loss in starters won't be as bad in this situation as it would be normally.
OSU also has 15 returning starters to our 5. It makes sense they aren't dropping far in the rankings.
If you've been following everything going on in east Lansing, you'd know the chances of a bounce back year are slim.
I haven't been following. I just know that Mark Dantonio has been one hell of a good coach.
What has been going on in East Lansing that would keep him from being a good coach? I mean, a few criminal arrests won't stop that.
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Attrition this offseason
OL Thiyo Lukusa: quits team, says he's giving up football, ends up at JUCO.
S Drake Martinez: probably a playing time transfer
DE Donovan Winter: dropped after armed burglary charge
LB Jon Reshcke: dropped N-bomb on teammate
WR Donnie Corley: charged with criminal sexual conduct
DE Josh King: charged with criminal sexual conduct
S Demetric Vance: charged with criminal sexual conduct
DE Auston Robertson, charged with criminal sexual conduct
DT Cassius Peat: probably not qualified?
CB Kaleel Gaines: JUCO transfer, academics related?
S Kenney Lyke: another JUCO transfer, academics related?
Plus possibly two more.
Some of which points to a general lack of control of the locker room.
But you're right, a few criminal arrests didn't stop Meyer at UF. A lot of arrests did.
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
OSU wins it all this year. UM won't even be invited to a bowl game.
I say UM gets a bowl invite. Whatever bowl takes a 4th place 8-4 team from the Big Ten will take them. Maybe the motor city bowl. That way they can get some people to show up.OSU wins it all this year. UM won't even be invited to a bowl game.
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Attrition this offseason
OL Thiyo Lukusa: quits team, says he's giving up football, ends up at JUCO.
S Drake Martinez: probably a playing time transfer
DE Donovan Winter: dropped after armed burglary charge
LB Jon Reshcke: dropped N-bomb on teammate
WR Donnie Corley: charged with criminal sexual conduct
DE Josh King: charged with criminal sexual conduct
S Demetric Vance: charged with criminal sexual conduct
DE Auston Robertson, charged with criminal sexual conduct
DT Cassius Peat: probably not qualified?
CB Kaleel Gaines: JUCO transfer, academics related?
S Kenney Lyke: another JUCO transfer, academics related?
Plus possibly two more.
Some of which points to a general lack of control of the locker room.
But you're right, a few criminal arrests didn't stop Meyer at UF. A lot of arrests did.
But you're right, a few criminal arrests didn't stop Meyer at UF. A lot of arrests did.
Oh yeah when in doubt or need a juicy story blame the coach....not the 18, 19, 20 year old over entitled little punks who like to do this crap. Also the backgrounds of some blue chip athletes today are from "not so great families or areas" you can fill in the rest.
Ever watch the NFL, NBA Draft closely? Not many "nuclear families" there either.
I wouldn't want to coach some of these little thugs on a bet, well unless the money is REAL good.
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Meyer can't control every 18 year old, but he can create a culture that leads to unruly behavior. Then leave when shit hits the fan. That's what the "circle of Trust" created.
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More TSN chatter, that's what writers do for money
..........Then again, what do I know? What do any of us really know when it comes to somebody else’s burnout rehab?
He’s probably not the same person he was a year ago, and that’s a good thing. Whether he’s the same coach he was in 2006, we’re about to find out.
If the Buckeyes start resembling this year’s Gators and Meyer resigns for “health reasons” in three years, then I’ll believe Urban was more scam artist than coach.
My guess is in three years, he’ll be as beloved in Columbus as he was in Gainesville. And all the burnout questions will have quickly faded away......
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Some schools just reload. According to some, Alabama just lost an entire NFL defense to the pros...yet, they have the top ranking. Ohio State just lost 3 DBs to the first round....every one of which could have returned if they wanted to...and they still come in second place in this ranking.
Very few elite schools can reload every single year. Oh and OSU might have been #2 here but #1 in other better polls.
Some other schools cannot do as well with a whole pile of losses to the pros or graduation. (Remains to be seen if Michigan is one of them. Of course, just in their division they have Penn St. and OSU rated ahead...and you have to ask yourself: can Michigan St. rebound after a bad year?)
In this period of super parity a team might have a good run even a NC shot and somehow just fade back into some obscurity. We'll see how good a coach Harbaugh is this year but it might be a good time in Ann Arbor. I guess we wait and see!
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We have a pretty good size body of work to tell us how good of a coach Harbaugh is
I'm not saying Meyer is doing all of that at OSU. Just that it was happening under him and by him at UF
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