Josh Gordon
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In 8 years of college and pros he hasn't gone 12 months without being suspended. He hasn't gone 8 months without some sort of incident.
But yeah, it will change this time...
In 8 years of college and pros he hasn't gone 12 months without being suspended. He hasn't gone 8 months without some sort of incident.
But yeah, it will change this time...
Just quoting myself here. Don't care about specifics. The guy can't stay out of trouble.
And no, I'd rather not get two games of Gordon and then have him suspended again. I'd rather not have Britt either. So I guess I don't have another solution other than some 3 TE sets. But pinning even the smallest of hopes on this guy is silly.
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1) Said it once already- I used to do blood alcohols for a living PO. Your math is off. 0.01% of 0.08 is 0.08008- not 0.09. You can argue if you want that's too low, it used to be 0.1 for most states, until Mothers Against Drunk Driving got involved.
2) He's a victim of the circumstances he created for himself. PERIOD. No one put a gun to his head and told him to drive after he had been drinking, or light up a fattie when he knew the consequences of that action could get him suspended. Or get nailed for Purple Drank when he didn't have a prescription for it. (BTW, it's the best cough medicine in the world- if you're using it legitimately, not swilling a bottle of it and washing it down with a pint of vodka to get a hellacious buzz). Guys that have a drinking or drug problem often point the finger of blame for their actions at everyone and everything but themselves. Sorry, but the "victim of circumstances" doesn't fly with me. I'm sure Josh isn't a "bad" guy. One of the nicest guys I've ever met was a recovering alcoholic who had been tossed in jail 4 times, (the last for 6 months) for umpteen DUIs and driving on a revoked license.
Re-read this thread PO, and notice the company he's been keeping. One of the first things they're going to tell you in AA is if you want to stay clean, you need to find better friends to hang out with.
I sincerely hope Josh makes it this time- he's already flushed millions of dollars down the drain making BAD decisions off the field.
POG didn't say that his BAC was one-hundredth of the legal limit (.01 of .08) over the limit, he simply said it was one-hundredth of a percent (.01%) over the limit. What he said was not wrong.
It wasn't .08 + (.01 * .08), it was .08 + .01.
If a subject isn't defined explicitly, it's to be assumed that percentage gain/loss defaults to a scale of 100 - the traditional meaning of the word "percent".
No lie, this was a legitimate day-long argument in a statistics class my freshman year.
POG didn't say that his BAC was one-hundredth of the legal limit (.01 of .08) over the limit, he simply said it was one-hundredth of a percent (.01%) over the limit. What he said was not wrong.
It wasn't .08 + (.01 * .08), it was .08 + .01.
If a subject isn't defined explicitly, it's to be assumed that percentage gain/loss defaults to a scale of 100 - the traditional meaning of the word "percent".
No lie, this was a legitimate day-long argument in a statistics class my freshman year.
That's splitting hairs on a technical definition of percent. I never took statistics BTW. Point is even if you're at 0.081 it's still illegal, though it's a lot easier to argue in court about machine error, if you have a good lawyer.
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POG didn't say that his BAC was one-hundredth of the legal limit (.01 of .08) over the limit, he simply said it was one-hundredth of a percent (.01%) over the limit. What he said was not wrong.
It wasn't .08 + (.01 * .08), it was .08 + .01.
If a subject isn't defined explicitly, it's to be assumed that percentage gain/loss defaults to a scale of 100 - the traditional meaning of the word "percent".
No lie, this was a legitimate day-long argument in a statistics class my freshman year.
That's splitting hairs on a technical definition of percent. I never took statistics BTW. Point is even if you're at 0.081 it's still illegal, though it's a lot easier to argue in court about machine error, if you have a good lawyer.
Well Josh is probably out by now, the saga continues.... -
POG didn't say that his BAC was one-hundredth of the legal limit (.01 of .08) over the limit, he simply said it was one-hundredth of a percent (.01%) over the limit. What he said was not wrong.
It wasn't .08 + (.01 * .08), it was .08 + .01.
If a subject isn't defined explicitly, it's to be assumed that percentage gain/loss defaults to a scale of 100 - the traditional meaning of the word "percent".
No lie, this was a legitimate day-long argument in a statistics class my freshman year.
That's splitting hairs on a technical definition of percent. I never took statistics BTW. Point is even if you're at 0.081 it's still illegal, though it's a lot easier to argue in court about machine error, if you have a good lawyer.
Well Josh is probably out by now, the saga continues....That's splitting hairs on a technical definition of percent. I never took statistics BTW. Point is even if you're at 0.081 it's still illegal, though it's a lot easier to argue in court about machine error, if you have a good lawyer.
Well Josh is probably out by now, the saga continues....Yes, .08 is the legal Blood Alcohol Content level. But....was that what Gordon had? I didn't think it was anywhere near that. Fact check.
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That's splitting hairs on a technical definition of percent. I never took statistics BTW. Point is even if you're at 0.081 it's still illegal, though it's a lot easier to argue in court about machine error, if you have a good lawyer.
Well Josh is probably out by now, the saga continues....Yes, .08 is the legal Blood Alcohol Content level. But....was that what Gordon had? I didn't think it was anywhere near that. Fact check.
Yes, .08 is the legal Blood Alcohol Content level. But....was that what Gordon had? I didn't think it was anywhere near that. Fact check.
It was 0.09 Gip. Enough to get you sent to drunk school. Thing is, a lot of people don't think they're over the limit at that level, but they are. From my ER experience, once you get to the 0.15+ level, certainly 0.2+ that's when you ARE a danger on the road, and serious crashes are almost inevitable, unless you're a major alky that's built up a tolerance. I've mentioned in the past the highest BAC I saw from a driver (accident of course) was 0.43 .
According to the book, he should have been unconscious, not driving a car.
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POG didn't say that his BAC was one-hundredth of the legal limit (.01 of .08) over the limit, he simply said it was one-hundredth of a percent (.01%) over the limit. What he said was not wrong.
It wasn't .08 + (.01 * .08), it was .08 + .01.
If a subject isn't defined explicitly, it's to be assumed that percentage gain/loss defaults to a scale of 100 - the traditional meaning of the word "percent".
No lie, this was a legitimate day-long argument in a statistics class my freshman year.
That's splitting hairs on a technical definition of percent. I never took statistics BTW. Point is even if you're at 0.081 it's still illegal, though it's a lot easier to argue in court about machine error, if you have a good lawyer.
Well Josh is probably out by now, the saga continues.... -
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Yes, .08 is the legal Blood Alcohol Content level. But....was that what Gordon had? I didn't think it was anywhere near that. Fact check.
It was 0.09 Gip. Enough to get you sent to drunk school. Thing is, a lot of people don't think they're over the limit at that level, but they are. From my ER experience, once you get to the 0.15+ level, certainly 0.2+ that's when you ARE a danger on the road, and serious crashes are almost inevitable, unless you're a major alky that's built up a tolerance. I've mentioned in the past the highest BAC I saw from a driver (accident of course) was 0.43 .
According to the book, he should have been unconscious, not driving a car.
It was 0.09 Gip. Enough to get you sent to drunk school. Thing is, a lot of people don't think they're over the limit at that level, but they are. From my ER experience, once you get to the 0.15+ level, certainly 0.2+ that's when you ARE a danger on the road, and serious crashes are almost inevitable, unless you're a major alky that's built up a tolerance. I've mentioned in the past the highest BAC I saw from a driver (accident of course) was 0.43 .
According to the book, he should have been unconscious, not driving a car.
Being "over the limit" is a statutory issue. It is basically arbitrary. It has nothing to do with whether or not you are impaired. When I was first practicing the legal limit was .15. Then it went down to .10, then to .08. Did science change? No, just statutes changed. Some people may be lit up at .04...others can function at .15.
Its like speeding. Was it unsafe for you to drive 71 mph in a 60 mph zone? Maybe not. But that 60 was an arbitrary limit set by some governing body.....not a function of actual safeness.
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Shit man, I drive at 2.6 normal, shit.
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It was 0.09 Gip. Enough to get you sent to drunk school. Thing is, a lot of people don't think they're over the limit at that level, but they are. From my ER experience, once you get to the 0.15+ level, certainly 0.2+ that's when you ARE a danger on the road, and serious crashes are almost inevitable, unless you're a major alky that's built up a tolerance. I've mentioned in the past the highest BAC I saw from a driver (accident of course) was 0.43 .
According to the book, he should have been unconscious, not driving a car.
Being "over the limit" is a statutory issue. It is basically arbitrary. It has nothing to do with whether or not you are impaired. When I was first practicing the legal limit was .15. Then it went down to .10, then to .08. Did science change? No, just statutes changed. Some people may be lit up at .04...others can function at .15.
Its like speeding. Was it unsafe for you to drive 71 mph in a 60 mph zone? Maybe not. But that 60 was an arbitrary limit set by some governing body.....not a function of actual safeness.
Being "over the limit" is a statutory issue. It is basically arbitrary. It has nothing to do with whether or not you are impaired. When I was first practicing the legal limit was .15. Then it went down to .10, then to .08. Did science change? No, just statutes changed. Some people may be lit up at .04...others can function at .15.
Its like speeding. Was it unsafe for you to drive 71 mph in a 60 mph zone? Maybe not. But that 60 was an arbitrary limit set by some governing body.....not a function of actual safeness.
Follow the money.
WSS
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I don't get all this. He's let the Browns organisation down for five years.
He even instagrammed burning the browns uniform?
The blokes a cunt.
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#FreeJoshGordon
#PLAYtheMAN
#12FlashBackers
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I don't get all this. He's let the Browns organisation down for five years.
He even instagrammed burning the browns uniform?
The blokes a cunt.
The blokes a cunt.
Maybe... but he was the best cunt of a WR we've seen in decades. Is he still? Hope to find out...
Hope they let him into England...
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Player wise I wouldn't ever be negative. I still remember him catching a slant in New England and making Talib look like a child, he just jogged away from him for about a 40 yard TD. It was ridiculous.
The instagram stuff was unforgivable for me. He doesn't want to be here. It's been obvious for a long time.
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What did Jim Brown say about the way they talked to him? That he would have stayed and played another year at least if they would have treated him differently...
The way Hue left it out there when he was asked about Gordon was wrong. He could have simply said that he understood and he would have Gordon's back and that when he was better he would love to have him be able to be a part of the team.
I think that we embrace Josh and let him know that we care about HIM and we want him to play here for us would go a long way.
Back the Flash.
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That's absolute nonsense PoG.
They gave him the reps as the number one receiver and he then bailed before the season. So not only were we without him he took the reps off of WRs that were playing.
He's treated the Browns like shit ever since he arrived HE DOES NOT WANT TO PLAY FOR US.
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That's absolute nonsense PoG.
They gave him the reps as the number one receiver and he then bailed before the season. So not only were we without him he took the reps off of WRs that were playing.
He's treated the Browns like shit ever since he arrived HE DOES NOT WANT TO PLAY FOR US.
That's absolute nonsense PoG.
They gave him the reps as the number one receiver and he then bailed before the season. So not only were we without him he took the reps off of WRs that were playing.
He's treated the Browns like shit ever since he arrived HE DOES NOT WANT TO PLAY FOR US.
If he gets reinstated- he doesn't have a choice this season. It would be stupid for the Browns to cut him. He's only due $1 million on his rookie deal- and that probably would get prorated considering he's going to miss some games regardless. That's dirt cheap for the talent level he's flashed in the past. BTW, he's only a RFA in 2018- meaning if he wants to get paid that year- (or go elsewhere) he had damn well better not dog it this year. If he gets on the field, and shows his old form, the Browns would doubtless slap a first round tender on him. Some other team offers him $10 million- the Browns can say thank you very much, we'll take the first round pick and have three first rounders (not counting the three second round picks) in the 2018 draft. Happy now?
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