Tiamat's 2017 Camp observations and thoughts

Tour2ma

Outstanding note taking...

@tiamat63 said:
Tour - Shon held his own quite well. Still needs to polish his kick step but RT appears to be solidified.

Good to read... Joe will work on the kick with him.

@tiamat63 said:
- Garrett OWNED Rod Johnson. Like, it was bad. What I saw was illegal in at least 6 different states.
- His throwing motion might look better but his ball action fake is still shit. Kizer HAS to sell that stretch better otherwise he's going to get splattered by backside pursuit after the fake.

- I was surprised how effective Fabiano was at combo blocking. As a center, that's kind of his bread and butter... but he worked off initial contact and got the second level a couple times and did it in a hurry.

Rod is raw with a little "Cam" in him, but not so much that he cannot overcome it.

Only Kess has shown much PAP proficiency... and he had it last year.

Fabs does have some game...

jrb12711

Thanks man, appreciate the work you put in for the benefit of people who can't make it.

Just wondering, do you have any more information on Larry Ogunjobi that you saw? I'm a proud UNC-Charlotte alumni and I'm hoping he excels in Cleveland. It seems like Coley and Brantley might be getting more initial looks though.

TexasAg1969

@jrb12711 said:
Thanks man, appreciate the work you put in for the benefit of people who can't make it.

Ditto.

Tour2ma

@jrb12711 said:
... Larry Ogunjobi...

Kid that seemed to keep making plays late was hybrid-LB, Kenneth Olugbode...

Announcers everywhere have to hope one or the other gets cut...

tiamat63

@jrb12711 said:

Thanks man, appreciate the work you put in for the benefit of people who can't make it.

Just wondering, do you have any more information on Larry Ogunjobi that you saw? I'm a proud UNC-Charlotte alumni and I'm hoping he excels in Cleveland. It seems like Coley and Brantley might be getting more initial looks though.

Sorry I didnt catch this. Larry was in with the third team. I never saw him make much of a splash so nothing great to report.

miktoxic

so 3 starters out of 36 picks in the last 2 years?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tour2ma

@miktoxic said:

so 3 starters out of 36 picks in the last 2 years?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Show your math? Looks more a minimum of seven to me... three O and three D plus one K... and could go as high as 10.

O: S. Coleman, C. Coleman, Louis or Payton with Devalve a possible... so 3 to 4.
Garrett, Ogbah, Kindred with Peppers and Schobert as possibles... so 3 to 5 or 6.

miktoxic

@tour2ma said:

Show your math? Looks more a minimum of seven to me... three O and three D plus one K... and could go as high as 10.

O: S. Coleman, C. Coleman, Louis or Payton with Devalve a possible... so 3 to 4.

Garrett, Ogbah, Kindred with Peppers and Schobert as possibles... so 3 to 5 or 6.

out of 36?

what is that like 10%?

Tour2ma

lol.... like I said... "show your math"

2017 - 10 picks

2016 - 14 picks

Yup... that's 36 alrightie...

miktoxic

@tour2ma said:

lol.... like I said... "show your math"

2017 - 10 picks

2016 - 14 picks

Yup... that's 36 alrightie...

24.

3 starters out of 24 equals what?...... a whopping 12.5 %.

exactly. there's ur math bucko.

TexasAg1969

@miktoxic said:

24.

3 starters out of 24 equals what?...... a whopping 12.5 %.

exactly. there's ur math bucko.

LOL! He just gave you 3 to 4 on O and 3-6 on D, so minimum of 6 and max of 10, so how does that add up to 3 mik? Back to math 101 you go.

gumby73

@tour2ma said:

Sashi Brown knows math?.

O: S. Coleman, C. Coleman, Louis or Payton

Kindred with Peppers

6 of your maybe picks relate to the Wentz trade.. He better not miss .. (Kizer,Kessler & Durango are on deck with the safety net)

miktoxic

@texasag1969 said:
LOL! He just gave you 3 to 4 on O and 3-6 on D, so minimum of 6 and max of 10, so how does that add up to 3 mik? Back to math 101 you go.

Hahaha!!

Key word was 'possible'.

Show me proven NFL talent...Nassib, Coleman, Ogbah ....really???????? That's 3 BTW.

Dutch Oven

Math is hard, apparently.

Tour2ma

@gumby73 said:
6 of your maybe picks relate to the Wentz trade.. He better not miss .. (Kizer,Kessler & Durango are on deck with the safety net)

Did not realize that.

@miktoxic said:
Hahaha!! Key word was 'possible'. Show me proven NFL talent...Nassib, Coleman, Ogbah ....really???????? That's 3 BTW.

The key word was yours: "starter". Not all starters are created equal. Some are stars. Some are "solid". Some are by default.

miktoxic

@tour2ma said:

Did not realize that.

The key word was yours: "starter". Not all starters are created equal. Some are stars. Some are "solid". Some are by default.

and some just suck.

miktoxic

@dutch-oven said:
Math is hard, apparently.

not for someone who lives 12miles outside NYC and has an accountant wife who would pick up a penny off the ground.

u don't like the math, the prices, your budget? then stay the fuck in fulton OH. you wouldn't last here a month.

tiamat63

@miktoxic said:

Hahaha!!

Key word was 'possible'.

Show me proven NFL talent...Nassib, Coleman, Ogbah ....really???????? That's 3 BTW.

You said 'starters'. Either accept you may be wrong or fuck off with polluting what is a reasonable and decent thread.

miktoxic

@tiamat63 said:

You said 'starters'. Either accept you may be wrong or fuck off with polluting what is a reasonable and decent thread.

ok genius.....tell me 'starters' that would be on any other team's roster from the last 2 drafts?

fucko.

tiamat63

@miktoxic said:

ok genius.....tell me 'starters' that would be on any other team's roster from the last 2 drafts?

fucko.

No. Because you're backpedaling and that's a hypothetical. Tour gave an accurate listing for The Browns. If I wanted to follow other teams I'd go to their boards.