***Official Browns Vs. New York Giants Monday Night Football Preseason Game Night Thread***
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Way to go Brownies!!
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Just a little note on special teams. Impressive all around and nice to see we have a bonafide return man in Peppers.
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Nice game by Kessler last night! I was really impressed with the zip he had on those passes. Looks like his arm strength has really improved. I would like to see him start he season with Kizer as backup. I just don't see Osweiler ever amounting to anything more in the league so why waste the time. Both Kizer and Kessler have upside and since our receivers look pretty bad we are going to need a qb who doesn't turn the ball over in order to help the defense and keep us in games.
“The Wait Is Over, The Browns Will Be In The Playoffs This Year!" -
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A few musings.
Sold on Dayes and Schobert this game.
Was surprised at the level of intensity and how long the starters played.
Did Orchard play? I didn't see him or see his name in the box score.
Not impressed with Njoku so far. For a guy that can jump so high it doesn't seem like he tries to jump so high.
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Nice game by Kessler last night! I was really impressed with the zip he had on those passes. Looks like his arm strength has really improved. I would like to see him start he season with Kizer as backup. I just don't see Osweiler ever amounting to anything more in the league so why waste the time. Both Kizer and Kessler have upside and since our receivers look pretty bad we are going to need a qb who doesn't turn the ball over in order to help the defense and keep us in games.
Nice game by Kessler last night! I was really impressed with the zip he had on those passes. Looks like his arm strength has really improved. I would like to see him start he season with Kizer as backup. I just don't see Osweiler ever amounting to anything more in the league so why waste the time. Both Kizer and Kessler have upside and since our receivers look pretty bad we are going to need a qb who doesn't turn the ball over in order to help the defense and keep us in games.
I'm of two minds on this. I don't think Kessler is the QB of the future, but at the same time I don't want to ruin the confidence of Kizer by starting him too soon either. Kizer looks to me to be our "Dak Prescott". But he doesn't have the cowboys receiving corps working for him. So which do you start? At this point I'm leaning towards Kizer, because all indications are that we made a really great choice there. Somehow the coaching staff needs to get it across to him that no individual game matters as long as he is learning from mistakes. And we have to let him make them without getting down on him or allowing him to get down on himself. And no yanking from a game please. To quote Darrell Royal, "We'll dance with who brung us."
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Browns vs. Bucs replay on NFL Net Ch. 212 on Direct TV --Monday 100pm est/noon central.
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A few musings.
Sold on Dayes and Schobert this game.
Was surprised at the level of intensity and how long the starters played.
Did Orchard play? I didn't see him or see his name in the box score.
Not impressed with Njoku so far. For a guy that can jump so high it doesn't seem like he tries to jump so high.
A few musings.
Sold on Dayes and Schobert this game.
Not impressed with Njoku so far. For a guy that can jump so high it doesn't seem like he tries to jump so high.
I agree ... and that damn Peppers is gonna be a star here, ugh he is making it really hard to hate his UofM roots.
Njoku looks stiff, maybe it is timidness, but wasn't thrilled with his route running at all.
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I'll never root for these traitorous scum again.
fuck Nwordtown. 12 guys would be collecting cans today if I was the owner.
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Jabrill returning punts is our offense. Throwback to Cribbs
Why did they not have him returning kickoffs. The guy we had doing it was terrible.
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And Kessler sucks too.
Though...Kessler did seem to be the most accurate passer. I believe he completed every throw he attempted. Many were just short dumpoffs, but a few had some distance to them.
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Nice game by Kessler last night! I was really impressed with the zip he had on those passes. Looks like his arm strength has really improved. I would like to see him start he season with Kizer as backup. I just don't see Osweiler ever amounting to anything more in the league so why waste the time. Both Kizer and Kessler have upside and since our receivers look pretty bad we are going to need a qb who doesn't turn the ball over in order to help the defense and keep us in games.
Nice game by Kessler last night! I was really impressed with the zip he had on those passes. Looks like his arm strength has really improved. I would like to see him start he season with Kizer as backup. I just don't see Osweiler ever amounting to anything more in the league so why waste the time. Both Kizer and Kessler have upside and since our receivers look pretty bad we are going to need a qb who doesn't turn the ball over in order to help the defense and keep us in games.
Agree... at a minimum Kess got back in the starter conversation last nite. The last out he threw for the first was a very nice throw. I was sorry to see him not allowed to finish the drive.
A few musings.
- Sold on Dayes and Schobert this game.
- Was surprised at the level of intensity and how long the starters played.
- Did Orchard play? I didn't see him or see his name in the box score.
- Not impressed with Njoku so far. For a guy that can jump so high it doesn't seem like he tries to jump so high.
I'll see your few and add a few...
- My QB list is now: Kess - Kizer - Brock
- Dayes is now my #2 RB. He can do everything Duke does plus break an arm tackle. Put Duke at WR where he can get into space quicker.
- Nice to see a FB with some skills again.
- Need to grade them, but after some early blunders seems like the OTs played well... including young Roderick at LT.
On the D-side:
- Our DL is very active and disruptive and deep...
- Schobert looks like a placeholder. Too slow to POA missing early attack angles... ends up stacking and guessing too often. He's a long shot, but our 220# hybrid, Olugbode, played MLB after Schobert's stint and looked good.
- Our 2ndary, for a bunch of no names, held up pretty well against a pretty good passing attack. Not cause for celebration, but maybe a little optimism...
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Lots to like and dislike about last night:
The D looks to be improved from anything we've seen in recent years - Not great, but it will be better all year and that should help keep games as close as possible, especially with our anemic offense.
Duke and Garrett both looked over rated to me - based on everything I heard about the both of them in camp, I guess I just expected them to jump off the screen.
We are in trouble at the QB position - Brock looked slow and lethargic, Kizer looks exactly like a 21yr old should look, Kess looked to be the best option we have, and Hogan will be cut.
Special Teams looked good.
Peppers will be our most impactful rookie.
The defense looked fast.
Matt Dayes might already be the best RB on the team.
Haden looks D U N - Done.
Overall, we are 2-0 and even though it's only pre-season, winning is winning.
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A little reading material on last night's game.
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A few musings.
Sold on Dayes and Schobert this game.
Not impressed with Njoku so far. For a guy that can jump so high it doesn't seem like he tries to jump so high.
I agree ... and that damn Peppers is gonna be a star here, ugh he is making it really hard to hate his UofM roots.
Njoku looks stiff, maybe it is timidness, but wasn't thrilled with his route running at all.
Njoku looks stiff, maybe it is timidness, but wasn't thrilled with his route running at all.
seemed to play like he was still protecting his back injury? taped/braced could have thrown his timing off? preseason effort? but those weren't Njoku full jump efforts before back injury at camp
Boy's got some balance!
his RB coach at NCSU has a great drill to keep your pads square to the tackler. but Dayes takes it a step further with his hips also staying square but his feet can still jump cut without slowing down..Dayes was RB 29 off the board, but the kid imo was a solid #15 RB imo..Eagles went RB-Donnel Pumphrey-5'9" 176lbs. with 8.5" ball catching hands..Matt Dayes is also 5'9" but 205lbs. with 10.5" ball catching Paws..Lets see what some of these scouts see that GM's just seem to ignore
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