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  • Vindication

    PFF rated Haden all of 51.4 today.  Once again, the FO was right...

    @unsympathetic said:

    Vindication

    PFF rated Haden all of 51.4 today.  Once again, the FO was right...

    You cant base the performance of a player off of one game. I thought he had a solid game honestly. He almost had a int. 

  • @unsympathetic said:

    Vindication

    PFF rated Haden all of 51.4 today.  Once again, the FO was right...

    You cant base the performance of a player off of one game. I thought he had a solid game honestly. He almost had a int. 

    @vagitron said:

    You cant base the performance of a player off of one game. I thought he had a solid game honestly. He almost had a int. 

    Almost had a int? Stop the fucking presses. 

  • @vagitron said:

    You cant base the performance of a player off of one game. I thought he had a solid game honestly. He almost had a int. 

    Almost had a int? Stop the fucking presses. 

    @bjh2130 said:

    Almost had a int? Stop the fucking presses. 

    Game one in a new defense. I was happy with haden. He doesnt need to be a world beater, thats what artie burns is for. I have zero expectations for haden but hes a high character, team oriented veteran that says hes 100%. Im glad hes a steeler. 

  • @unsympathetic said:

    Vindication

    PFF rated Haden all of 51.4 today.  Once again, the FO was right...

    You cant base the performance of a player off of one game. I thought he had a solid game honestly. He almost had a int. 

    @vagitron said:

    He almost had a int. 

    And then you woke up.

  • @vagitron said:

    He almost had a int. 

    And then you woke up.

    @canton-dawg said:

    And then you woke up.

    He did, he high pointed the ball but dropped it. 

  • @bjh2130 said:

    Almost had a int? Stop the fucking presses. 

    Game one in a new defense. I was happy with haden. He doesnt need to be a world beater, thats what artie burns is for. I have zero expectations for haden but hes a high character, team oriented veteran that says hes 100%. Im glad hes a steeler. 

    @vagitron said:

    Game one in a new defense. I was happy with haden. He doesnt need to be a world beater, thats what artie burns is for. I have zero expectations for haden but hes a high character, team oriented veteran that says hes 100%. Im glad hes a steeler. 

    I will give you that he is high character but I have a feeling here in a couple weeks there will be more than a few times where you say wtf was Haden doing there.

    He is a good guy but that doesn't win football games. When he came here he bought into the city was always seen out giving back doing the right thing.

  • Vindication

    PFF rated Haden all of 51.4 today.  Once again, the FO was right...

    @unsympathetic said:

    Vindication

    PFF rated Haden all of 51.4 today.  Once again, the FO was right...

    How about our starting CBs?

  • Kindred & Boddy-Calhoun made the top 5 in the PFF grading scale for the Browns.

    Not one Steeler DB made the top 5.

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-refocused-pittsburgh-steelers-21-cleveland-browns-18

  • CB JOE HADEN, 51.4 OVERALL GRADE

    Haden’s first game in a new uniform coincidentally came against his former team. While he broke up a pass early on, the rest of his outing was average at best. He didn’t give up any major plays, but did allow six catches for 80 yards and a 106.3 passer rating into his coverage.

  • Thanks Canton..shows what I thought.Taylor did have a tough day.----1 block punt TD...1 Taylor pulls a inside hand of Brown that was not catch-able  FG...1 ball before half that could get knocked down tips to Brown TD....1 Ben throw up at end Brown high points between 3 defenders,,ballgame..it truly is a game of who creates your own lucky breaks      

  • @unsympathetic said:

    Vindication

    PFF rated Haden all of 51.4 today.  Once again, the FO was right...

    You cant base the performance of a player off of one game. I thought he had a solid game honestly. He almost had a int. 

    @vagitron said:

    You cant base the performance of a player off of one game.

    Objectively false.  Baseline is exactly the same for all players of the same position - that's the utility of PFF scoring..

    This is his grade for one game.

    He sucked.

  • @vagitron said:

    You cant base the performance of a player off of one game.

    Objectively false.  Baseline is exactly the same for all players of the same position - that's the utility of PFF scoring..

    This is his grade for one game.

    He sucked.

    @unsympathetic said:

    Objectively false.  Baseline is exactly the same for all players of the same position - that's the utility of PFF scoring..

    This is his grade for one game.

    He sucked.

    No, our offense didnt sustain drives and our defense was on the field a lot. Slow start which is par for the course, especially on the road. Ben isnt exactly mr. Road game. 

  • IIRC, Haden was 1 foot away from giving up a huge bomb that just barely went out of bounds. Even with that stroke of luck he certainly was not "par for the course". 

    The media, fan base and even FO (if you read between the lines) view the Browns receiving corps as one of the weakest in the league, and Slow Haden was still lucky to average bogey.  

  • IIRC, Haden was 1 foot away from giving up a huge bomb that just barely went out of bounds. Even with that stroke of luck he certainly was not "par for the course". 

    The media, fan base and even FO (if you read between the lines) view the Browns receiving corps as one of the weakest in the league, and Slow Haden was still lucky to average bogey.  

    @roycerolls said:

    IIRC, Haden was 1 foot away from giving up a huge bomb that just barely went out of bounds. Even with that stroke of luck he certainly was not "par for the course". 

    The media, fan base and even FO (if you read between the lines) view the Browns receiving corps as one of the weakest in the league, and Slow Haden was still lucky to average bogey.  

    Zone, he was responsible for the underneath. Safety over the top was to blame. 

  • @boo-fagley said:

    The Steelers gave Haden the game ball

    Much like a 6th place Little League team getting a trophy. 

  • Haden's "zone" was responsible for six catches and 80 yards, quit trying to polish a turd. 

  • Kindred & Boddy-Calhoun made the top 5 in the PFF grading scale for the Browns.

    Not one Steeler DB made the top 5.

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-refocused-pittsburgh-steelers-21-cleveland-browns-18

    @canton-dawg said:

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-refocused-pittsburgh-steelers-21-cleveland-browns-18

    A little surprised at Zeitler's high marks... impression was he had some issues. We shall see...

    @vagitron said:

    No, our offense didnt sustain drives and our defense was on the field a lot. Slow start which is par for the course, especially on the road. Ben isnt exactly mr. Road game. 

    .... and our D had something to do with that. But if you want to blame a Steeler, blame Bell and his hold out. He clearly was not in game form.

  • @boo-fagley said:

    The Steelers gave Haden the game ball.

    Commitment to mediocrity.

    I consider it a "Participation Trophy"...you know...to make the Stoolers FO feel like that did something right.

    They want to get that bad taste of Justin Gilbert out of their mouth.

  • @unsympathetic said:

    Objectively false.  Baseline is exactly the same for all players of the same position - that's the utility of PFF scoring..

    This is his grade for one game.

    He sucked.

    No, our offense didnt sustain drives and our defense was on the field a lot. Slow start which is par for the course, especially on the road. Ben isnt exactly mr. Road game. 

    @vagitron said:

    No, our offense didnt sustain drives and our defense was on the field a lot. Slow start which is par for the course, especially on the road. Ben isnt exactly mr. Road game. 

    The PFF grade describes only Joe Haden's individual performance.

    Not the team offense.

    Not the team defense.

    Not the slow or fast offensive scoring rhythm.

    Not the home or road stadium location.

    Not the opposing team QB's performance.

    This is his grade for one game.  And he sucked.

  • @unsympathetic said:

    Vindication

    PFF rated Haden all of 51.4 today.  Once again, the FO was right...

    You cant base the performance of a player off of one game. I thought he had a solid game honestly. He almost had a int. 

    @vagitron said:

    You cant base the performance of a player off of one game. I thought he had a solid game honestly. He almost had a int. 

    I almost won the lottery...I was only off by 5 numbers.