Garrett Hurt Already
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Will the pussy even play a real game in the NFL is the question?
I was the first one to bring actually truth about KWII never being any good after the first knee problem. My childhood best friend is a top Orthopod at UH...he tels me Garrett will never be hole and will have recurring ankle problems and not last in the NFL. I promise you, he's not going to contribute much.
I was the first one to bring actually truth about KWII never being any good after the first knee problem. My childhood best friend is a top Orthopod at UH...he tels me Garrett will never be hole and will have recurring ankle problems and not last in the NFL. I promise you, he's not going to contribute much.
They said exactly this about clowney s microfracture. Which if u really have a friend who's in ortho, will tell u it is 10x worse than ankle Sheet
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OL Better or worse?....hard to say.....but we are running the ball worse......and we are allowing as many sacks too.....other factors?.....maybe or maybe not.....
OL Better or worse?....hard to say.....but we are running the ball worse......and we are allowing as many sacks too.....other factors?.....maybe or maybe not.....
Twelve starting QBs have suffered more sacks then Kizer's 11. And we know he has taken more than was necessary. Proof? Kizer ranks 2nd in NextGen Stats' "time to throw" clocking in at 3.04 seconds. Whose #1? The new darling around here... Deshaun Watson at 3.11. https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#average-time-to-throw
Then there's the sack trend for Weeks 1 thru 4... 7 - 2 - 1 - 1. To quote Sesame Street.... "One of these things is not like the others." https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KizeDe00/gamelog/2017/
Run game? Touched on this a couple days ago. Out of the ShotGun we are primarily running ZBS. Crow is not a ZBS back. Don't have stats on this. Just working off casual observation and general formation tendencies.
The OL is better.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Football players today are NOT superior football players. What it is is that some positions are bigger, maybe stronger because of weight training and nutrition. Mainly the OL.
Running backs are no bigger/faster than in the 50s/ 60s/70. Wide receivers are no bigger/faster than in the50s/ 60s/70s. DBs and LBs are no bigger/faster than in the 60s/70s.
Defensive Ends are no bigger/faster than in the 50s/60s/70s.
I did a vast documentation of all this not too long ago.
QBs on average ARE a bit taller.
And Interior DL and OL are bigger...and probably stronger.
So, it is ONLY in those two areas where things are that much different.
Love to see your "vast documentation"... Link? Also like how you snuck the 70's into the argument...
Love to see your "vast documentation"... Link? Also like how you snuck the 70's into the argument...
It is on this board somewhere. I put it here. There was a huge thread on it. Maybe if you had paid attention the first time you would have remembered it. You can try doing a search.
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Shut garret down for the season. Start bringing up ps guys and pylling guys off the couch sitting at home. Find out who wants to play some real football. Schult needed pulled off the couch 2 weeks ago. Og and nassib need to sit. Bringing garrett back too soon means nothing and jeopardizes his production next season. I hate to say thst cause I wanna see him out there, but him being out there will not help og ir nas one iota cause they're getting handled easily 1v1 as it is.
Shmuck this team blow everyone but the rookies the phuck up.
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OL Better or worse?....hard to say.....but we are running the ball worse......and we are allowing as many sacks too.....other factors?.....maybe or maybe not.....
OL Better or worse?....hard to say.....but we are running the ball worse......and we are allowing as many sacks too.....other factors?.....maybe or maybe not.....
Crow has no vision, he runs into the back of somebody every time he runs the ball. I swear he closes his eyes as soon as he feels the handoff.
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Shut garret down for the season. Start bringing up ps guys and pylling guys off the couch sitting at home. Find out who wants to play some real football. Schult needed pulled off the couch 2 weeks ago. Og and nassib need to sit. Bringing garrett back too soon means nothing and jeopardizes his production next season. I hate to say thst cause I wanna see him out there, but him being out there will not help og ir nas one iota cause they're getting handled easily 1v1 as it is.
Shmuck this team blow everyone but the rookies the phuck up.
Shut garret down for the season. Start bringing up ps guys and pylling guys off the couch sitting at home. Find out who wants to play some real football. Schult needed pulled off the couch 2 weeks ago. Og and nassib need to sit. Bringing garrett back too soon means nothing and jeopardizes his production next season. I hate to say thst cause I wanna see him out there, but him being out there will not help og ir nas one iota cause they're getting handled easily 1v1 as it is.
Shmuck this team blow everyone but the rookies the phuck up.
Shut up about Schult already.
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Shut garret down for the season. Start bringing up ps guys and pylling guys off the couch sitting at home. Find out who wants to play some real football. Schult needed pulled off the couch 2 weeks ago. Og and nassib need to sit. Bringing garrett back too soon means nothing and jeopardizes his production next season. I hate to say thst cause I wanna see him out there, but him being out there will not help og ir nas one iota cause they're getting handled easily 1v1 as it is.
Shmuck this team blow everyone but the rookies the phuck up.
Shut up about Schult already.
Shut up about Schult already.
I would if he had played like Sheet. But he outplayed both nassib, orchard and holmes in presradon against the same guys. So yeah i wanna see other guys brought in so we can see what they got. Its 4 games in now, the cincy game sealed the deal. Our line is likely not going to see worse ol's than cincy and ny next week. Sooo its bad. It just is.
Im not claiming schult can come in here and do better, im saying lets find out.
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Shut up about Schult already.
I would if he had played like Sheet. But he outplayed both nassib, orchard and holmes in presradon against the same guys. So yeah i wanna see other guys brought in so we can see what they got. Its 4 games in now, the cincy game sealed the deal. Our line is likely not going to see worse ol's than cincy and ny next week. Sooo its bad. It just is.
Im not claiming schult can come in here and do better, im saying lets find out.
I would if he had played like Sheet. But he outplayed both nassib, orchard and holmes in presradon against the same guys. So yeah i wanna see other guys brought in so we can see what they got. Its 4 games in now, the cincy game sealed the deal. Our line is likely not going to see worse ol's than cincy and ny next week. Sooo its bad. It just is.
Im not claiming schult can come in here and do better, im saying lets find out.
First quarter grades- Kizer F, RBs D-, WRs F. Pass rush D. That is all.....
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I would if he had played like Sheet. But he outplayed both nassib, orchard and holmes in presradon against the same guys. So yeah i wanna see other guys brought in so we can see what they got. Its 4 games in now, the cincy game sealed the deal. Our line is likely not going to see worse ol's than cincy and ny next week. Sooo its bad. It just is.
Im not claiming schult can come in here and do better, im saying lets find out.
First quarter grades- Kizer F, RBs D-, WRs F. Pass rush D. That is all.....
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It is on this board somewhere. I put it here. There was a huge thread on it. Maybe if you had paid attention the first time you would have remembered it. You can try doing a search.
Says the guy who asks for every goggle-able crumb of info to be handed to him on a platter...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Ya know, I really thought we'd see Garrett for about 20-30 plays last week. A home game, a division game, and a match-up where we needed every spark possible. Obviously Garrett didn't play, and it's probably a good thing.
I can't imagine he'll sit out again. Perhaps he doesn't play the entire game, but I have to imagine he'll be in the game in some capacity. I guess it all depends on how he responds to practice. If there's too much swelling and pain, he'll likely sit out. If his body reacts well, he'll get the nod. Lord knows we need SOMETHING to spark this team, and we need it before the players mentally give up.
I'm pretty confident we'll see Garrett, but perhaps the BIGGER issue is we'll be without Jamie Collins (more than likely, I don't KNOW for a fact, just guessing). I really thought Collins would've been back now, but hey...it's just how it is right now. Bad luck and more of it. Fingers crossed Jamie Collins...we need you so much.
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Ya know, I really thought we'd see Garrett for about 20-30 plays last week. A home game, a division game, and a match-up where we needed every spark possible. Obviously Garrett didn't play, and it's probably a good thing.
I can't imagine he'll sit out again. Perhaps he doesn't play the entire game, but I have to imagine he'll be in the game in some capacity. I guess it all depends on how he responds to practice. If there's too much swelling and pain, he'll likely sit out. If his body reacts well, he'll get the nod. Lord knows we need SOMETHING to spark this team, and we need it before the players mentally give up.
I'm pretty confident we'll see Garrett, but perhaps the BIGGER issue is we'll be without Jamie Collins (more than likely, I don't KNOW for a fact, just guessing). I really thought Collins would've been back now, but hey...it's just how it is right now. Bad luck and more of it. Fingers crossed Jamie Collins...we need you so much.
Ya know, I really thought we'd see Garrett for about 20-30 plays last week. A home game, a division game, and a match-up where we needed every spark possible. Obviously Garrett didn't play, and it's probably a good thing.
I can't imagine he'll sit out again. Perhaps he doesn't play the entire game, but I have to imagine he'll be in the game in some capacity. I guess it all depends on how he responds to practice. If there's too much swelling and pain, he'll likely sit out. If his body reacts well, he'll get the nod. Lord knows we need SOMETHING to spark this team, and we need it before the players mentally give up.
I'm pretty confident we'll see Garrett, but perhaps the BIGGER issue is we'll be without Jamie Collins (more than likely, I don't KNOW for a fact, just guessing). I really thought Collins would've been back now, but hey...it's just how it is right now. Bad luck and more of it. Fingers crossed Jamie Collins...we need you so much.
And Danny too. I really want to see all our D out there together @ 100%. I just think there is so much they can all do to keep the game close while we continue turning Kizer into a pro. It's too bad the Browns have been so bad so long. A team with a better recent history would have much more patience from fans during this difficult transition. We all have to keep remembering that it just started from scratch less than 2 years ago as a "new" old franchise.
Patience grasshoppers.
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Go back and drool over your QB. I think that team needs your "support" more than the Browns players do. Take the Ghool with you.
Yeah? Well assuming he should be able to participate and contribute this Sunday...
On balance I try to be positive but I realize that the only way to shut up the guys that aren't positive is on the field. And it ain't happening yet.
WSS
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It is on this board somewhere. I put it here. There was a huge thread on it. Maybe if you had paid attention the first time you would have remembered it. You can try doing a search.
Says the guy who asks for every goggle-able crumb of info to be handed to him on a platter...
Says the guy who asks for every goggle-able crumb of info to be handed to him on a platter...
Hardly. No one here has done more research into stuff than I have. Point is I did "google" all this info....and I handed it to you on a platter. You just have to go pick up the platter.
On the other hand, you could just take my word on what I say and not question me on every subject I put on here.
I stated that except for OL and interior DL.....(and QB average height) every other position in the NFL has players playing there that are not any bigger/taller/heavier than those players that played those positions. back in the 50s/60s/70s. Thats a fact. I did the research, I posted it.
If you want to either question it, or reaffirm it with your own research, be my guest. Or you can just acknowledge the accuracy of those facts. Nothing you do will change those facts.
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@nickers said:
Go back to Texas you Hilljack A$$hole and stay there!
Can one go back to where they are?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
No garrett unless that ankle is 1 hundy percent. I dont want to jeopardize next year just so we can see him take meaningless snaps in this shitshow of a season
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@nickers said:
Go back to Texas you Hilljack A$$hole and stay there!
Can one go back to where they are?
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