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  • @the-gipper said:

    I think a number of these players may start to pay dividends as early as around the middle of this season.

    I want to see how this team operates with everyone at 100% both sides of the ball. A defense that improves with Garrett and Collins in full form and a rookie QB that learns from mistakes and works on weaknesses could very well be the difference between winning and losing.

    @texasag1969 said:

    I want to see how this team operates with everyone at 100% both sides of the ball. A defense that improves with Garrett and Collins in full form and a rookie QB that learns from mistakes and works on weaknesses could very well be the difference between winning and losing.

    And see how they play with an actual lead at some point....where they should be better at running the ball.  I don't know, however, if there is anything that can be done with this receiving corps....unless the signings of Coates, Williams, and Leslie begin to pay dividends.

  • Sounds great! So when do the three years actually begin?

    😆

    WSS

  • Sounds great! So when do the three years actually begin?

    😆

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Sounds great! So when do the three years actually begin?

    😆

    WSS

    5 years ago!

  • If we keep foring coaches after only 1-2 years, we will be a 1-2 win team indefinitely. Is that what u guys want?

  • Sounds great! So when do the three years actually begin?

    😆

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Sounds great! So when do the three years actually begin?

    😆

    WSS

  • If we keep foring coaches after only 1-2 years, we will be a 1-2 win team indefinitely. Is that what u guys want?

    @clevfan4life said:

    If we keep foring coaches after only 1-2 years, we will be a 1-2 win team indefinitely. Is that what u guys want?

    I agree. That is the very heart of the Browns problem.

    WSS

  • If we keep foring coaches after only 1-2 years, we will be a 1-2 win team indefinitely. Is that what u guys want?

    @clevfan4life said:

    If we keep foring coaches after only 1-2 years, we will be a 1-2 win team indefinitely. Is that what u guys want?

    Especially since the issue hasnt really been coaching, but talent acquisition.....they keep giving their coaches crap rosters and then firing them for not winning.....

    In re to the 3 yr thing.....this FO has to get credit for their stockpiling of draft picks.....as they have drafted 3 years worth of players in just 2 drafts.....unfortunately, they haven't scored a single star player yet....22 picks and counting.....

  • @clevfan4life said:

    If we keep foring coaches after only 1-2 years, we will be a 1-2 win team indefinitely. Is that what u guys want?

    Especially since the issue hasnt really been coaching, but talent acquisition.....they keep giving their coaches crap rosters and then firing them for not winning.....

    In re to the 3 yr thing.....this FO has to get credit for their stockpiling of draft picks.....as they have drafted 3 years worth of players in just 2 drafts.....unfortunately, they haven't scored a single star player yet....22 picks and counting.....

    @mudfly said:

    Especially since the issue hasnt really been coaching, but talent acquisition.....they keep giving their coaches crap rosters and then firing them for not winning.....

    In re to the 3 yr thing.....this FO has to get credit for their stockpiling of draft picks.....as they have drafted 3 years worth of players in just 2 drafts.....unfortunately, they haven't scored a single star player yet....22 picks and counting.....

    I’ve been saying this for years.

    I was against the firing of Mancini, Chud, and Pettine.

    However, I’m not against getting rid of a FO that can’t draft worth a dam.

  • @mudfly said:

    Especially since the issue hasnt really been coaching, but talent acquisition.....they keep giving their coaches crap rosters and then firing them for not winning.....

    In re to the 3 yr thing.....this FO has to get credit for their stockpiling of draft picks.....as they have drafted 3 years worth of players in just 2 drafts.....unfortunately, they haven't scored a single star player yet....22 picks and counting.....

    I’ve been saying this for years.

    I was against the firing of Mancini, Chud, and Pettine.

    However, I’m not against getting rid of a FO that can’t draft worth a dam.

    @canton-dawg said:

    I’ve been saying this for years.

    I was against the firing of Mancini, Chud, and Pettine.

    However, I’m not against getting rid of a FO that can’t draft worth a dam.

    Right...exactly.....I also defended those coaches and railed for FO changes, while leaving the coaching staffs intact.....But the prevailing argument was always that the FO needed to install "their guy", whatever the f%$k that means......(as if these FO's have some special HC up their sleeves they've been wanting)

  • @clevfan4life said:

    If we keep foring coaches after only 1-2 years, we will be a 1-2 win team indefinitely. Is that what u guys want?

    Especially since the issue hasnt really been coaching, but talent acquisition.....they keep giving their coaches crap rosters and then firing them for not winning.....

    In re to the 3 yr thing.....this FO has to get credit for their stockpiling of draft picks.....as they have drafted 3 years worth of players in just 2 drafts.....unfortunately, they haven't scored a single star player yet....22 picks and counting.....

    @mudfly said:

    Especially since the issue hasnt really been coaching, but talent acquisition.....they keep giving their coaches crap rosters and then firing them for not winning.....

    In re to the 3 yr thing.....this FO has to get credit for their stockpiling of draft picks.....as they have drafted 3 years worth of players in just 2 drafts.....unfortunately, they haven't scored a single star player yet....22 picks and counting.....

    And these guys probably understand that they are going to miss on a number of these draft picks....thus they believe in quantity.   Though....how many of the 22 picks they have made actually been let go?  Maybe 1 guy?

  • @clevfan4life said:

    If we keep foring coaches after only 1-2 years, we will be a 1-2 win team indefinitely. Is that what u guys want?

    Especially since the issue hasnt really been coaching, but talent acquisition.....they keep giving their coaches crap rosters and then firing them for not winning.....

    In re to the 3 yr thing.....this FO has to get credit for their stockpiling of draft picks.....as they have drafted 3 years worth of players in just 2 drafts.....unfortunately, they haven't scored a single star player yet....22 picks and counting.....

    @boo-fagley said:

    All Kizer needs to do is manage the game right now. Dont turn the ball over and take your shots when its a slam dunk.

    Great recipe... for a team with a strong run game and staunch D. Is that how you see us?

    @mudfly said:

    Especially since the issue hasnt really been coaching, but talent acquisition.....they keep giving their coaches crap rosters and then firing them for not winning.....

    In re to the 3 yr thing.....this FO has to get credit for their stockpiling of draft picks.....as they have drafted 3 years worth of players in just 2 drafts.....unfortunately, they haven't scored a single star player yet....22 picks and counting.....

    When did our paths diverge?

  • @boo-fagley said:

    All Kizer needs to do is manage the game right now. Dont turn the ball over and take your shots when its a slam dunk.

    Great recipe... for a team with a strong run game and staunch D. Is that how you see us?

    @mudfly said:

    Especially since the issue hasnt really been coaching, but talent acquisition.....they keep giving their coaches crap rosters and then firing them for not winning.....

    In re to the 3 yr thing.....this FO has to get credit for their stockpiling of draft picks.....as they have drafted 3 years worth of players in just 2 drafts.....unfortunately, they haven't scored a single star player yet....22 picks and counting.....

    When did our paths diverge?

    @tour2ma said:

    When did our paths diverge?

    When we hired Hue, Shashi and Depo at exactly the same moment that I decided I could no longer tolerate losing  and would no longer blindly follow.....

    I still love your takes(tho I know mine are a bit grating for you).....but Ive just decided on focusing on what this team needs to do to improve(which are weaknesses and flaws), as opposed to digging for and cheer leading the few good things that are happening....(did that for years.....decades even)

    We need eyes on both sides of the fence, even though many dont like to hear it.....

  • I can handle it if you can...

    'Til we merge again...