DeShaun Watson
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Overreaction Sunday
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Tell me when Watson plays a defense. The only 2 he actually went up against easily handled him. It is like Carson Wentz. Being a game manager against losing teams is one thing. Winning against the best, is another.
Tell me when Watson plays a defense. The only 2 he actually went up against easily handled him. It is like Carson Wentz. Being a game manager against losing teams is one thing. Winning against the best, is another.
Winning is the name of the game.....and Watson is now 2 outta 4......while we have drafted or brought in 3 rookie QB's in 2 consecutive drafts and none of them has won a single game yet.....not one win......Kizer/Kessler/Hogan....
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Tell me when Watson plays a defense. The only 2 he actually went up against easily handled him. It is like Carson Wentz. Being a game manager against losing teams is one thing. Winning against the best, is another.
Winning is the name of the game.....and Watson is now 2 outta 4......while we have drafted or brought in 3 rookie QB's in 2 consecutive drafts and none of them has won a single game yet.....not one win......Kizer/Kessler/Hogan....
Winning is the name of the game.....and Watson is now 2 outta 4......while we have drafted or brought in 3 rookie QB's in 2 consecutive drafts and none of them has won a single game yet.....not one win......Kizer/Kessler/Hogan....
He didn't start the season. He came in after savage went down I think. His lone loss as starter was to NE on another Brady comeback I think. In college, almost seemed that he found a way to win big games while Kizer found a way to lose them.
Regardless... It's sad when your entire qb roster on an NFL team has zero wins. Ridiculous
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Yeah inwasnt really high on any wb's last draft but IF we had to take one it had to be watson was my thoughts. I mean he sat in the pocket and smoked alabama for the nat champ right? Combine be damned.
still, stop shitting on kizer. He's not just a rookie he's green as Shmuck. He likely needed another 1-2 years in college but obviously his relationship with kelly melted and he wasnt going to sit for a year to transfer, so he came out in the draft
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Yep...I hated him less than most.....but really didnt see any of the top 4 as being high first round talents.....and, so far, stand by that...
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These kinds of useless posts always spring up after someone has a big game. Then they disappear when said player comes back down to earth.
Give Kizer DeAndre Hopkins, Will Fuller and the Houston defense and let’s see how well he does.
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Tell me when Watson plays a defense. The only 2 he actually went up against easily handled him. It is like Carson Wentz. Being a game manager against losing teams is one thing. Winning against the best, is another.
Winning is the name of the game.....and Watson is now 2 outta 4......while we have drafted or brought in 3 rookie QB's in 2 consecutive drafts and none of them has won a single game yet.....not one win......Kizer/Kessler/Hogan....
Winning is the name of the game.....and Watson is now 2 outta 4......while we have drafted or brought in 3 rookie QB's in 2 consecutive drafts and none of them has won a single game yet.....not one win......Kizer/Kessler/Hogan....
Damn, this is telling.
I'm thinking Hue is full of Sheet with his "you have to trust me" about Kessler.
I think > Jimmy tells FO to get the players with the highest upside for as cheap as possible > FO talks to GM and formulates a plan, doesn't want to take a QB #1 because if he fails, it's their asses > FO tells head coach this plan, that we want a young "analytics driven team". Hue doesn't seemed thrilled about it, but agrees and sticks with it. Fast forward, the Browns keep cutting and getting rid of veterans over and over again to save more money. They use Dpud's strategy of acquiring mass picks, but don't have much knowledge on actually picking talent. Jimmy is afraid of resigning a STUD qb or WR like Julio Jones, Tom Brady, ect, and would rather get a decent 8-8 or 9-7 team and barely slide into the playoffs while he makes money and pays under a million a year to most of our players.
Meanwhile, veterans like Collins are dissuaded because we have so little talent to work with. Kenny Britt looks at it like he was already paid and that we have a rookie QB that can't throw yet anyway, so he half asses it. If they cut him, he's still paid. We should've signed Kenny Britt to a one year deal. I'm perplexed how much we paid him.
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These kinds of useless posts always spring up after someone has a big game. Then they disappear when said player comes back down to earth.
Give Kizer DeAndre Hopkins, Will Fuller and the Houston defense and let’s see how well he does.
These kinds of useless posts always spring up after someone has a big game. Then they disappear when said player comes back down to earth.
Give Kizer DeAndre Hopkins, Will Fuller and the Houston defense and let’s see how well he does.
Watson is more experienced and a better passer than Kizer. I don't see kizer putting up five touchdowns in a game yet, even on that team. Dude holds onto the ball too long.
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Winning is the name of the game.....and Watson is now 2 outta 4......while we have drafted or brought in 3 rookie QB's in 2 consecutive drafts and none of them has won a single game yet.....not one win......Kizer/Kessler/Hogan....
Damn, this is telling.
I'm thinking Hue is full of Sheet with his "you have to trust me" about Kessler.
I think > Jimmy tells FO to get the players with the highest upside for as cheap as possible > FO talks to GM and formulates a plan, doesn't want to take a QB #1 because if he fails, it's their asses > FO tells head coach this plan, that we want a young "analytics driven team". Hue doesn't seemed thrilled about it, but agrees and sticks with it. Fast forward, the Browns keep cutting and getting rid of veterans over and over again to save more money. They use Dpud's strategy of acquiring mass picks, but don't have much knowledge on actually picking talent. Jimmy is afraid of resigning a STUD qb or WR like Julio Jones, Tom Brady, ect, and would rather get a decent 8-8 or 9-7 team and barely slide into the playoffs while he makes money and pays under a million a year to most of our players.
Meanwhile, veterans like Collins are dissuaded because we have so little talent to work with. Kenny Britt looks at it like he was already paid and that we have a rookie QB that can't throw yet anyway, so he half asses it. If they cut him, he's still paid. We should've signed Kenny Britt to a one year deal. I'm perplexed how much we paid him.
Jimmy is afraid of resigning a STUD qb or WR like Julio Jones, Tom Brady, ect, and would rather get a decent 8-8 or 9-7 team and barely slide into the playoffs while he makes money and pays under a million a year to most of our players.
So how does Brock' s salary fit that equation
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Jimmy is afraid of resigning a STUD qb or WR like Julio Jones, Tom Brady, ect, and would rather get a decent 8-8 or 9-7 team and barely slide into the playoffs while he makes money and pays under a million a year to most of our players.
So how does Brock' s salary fit that equation
So how does Brock' s salary fit that equation
we traded for the draft pick. and we cut people like haden so jimmy couple recoup the money we spent on the second round draft pick.
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Watch after Houston beats NE [whose defense would get shredded by Ohio State's offense at this point] next week and all the accolades start coming in to Watson.
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So how does Brock' s salary fit that equation
we traded for the draft pick. and we cut people like haden so jimmy couple recoup the money we spent on the second round draft pick.
we traded for the draft pick. and we cut people like haden so jimmy couple recoup the money we spent on the second round draft pick.
Haden would've been gone regardless. Yes... we wanted the pick, but to spend that much money for 2nd round pick doesn't scream out "Hey I'm afraid to spend money!"
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we traded for the draft pick. and we cut people like haden so jimmy couple recoup the money we spent on the second round draft pick.
Haden would've been gone regardless. Yes... we wanted the pick, but to spend that much money for 2nd round pick doesn't scream out "Hey I'm afraid to spend money!"
Haden would've been gone regardless. Yes... we wanted the pick, but to spend that much money for 2nd round pick doesn't scream out "Hey I'm afraid to spend money!"
How does having the lowest cap number in consecutive years sound?
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These kinds of useless posts always spring up after someone has a big game. Then they disappear when said player comes back down to earth.
Give Kizer DeAndre Hopkins, Will Fuller and the Houston defense and let’s see how well he does.
Watson is more experienced and a better passer than Kizer. I don't see kizer putting up five touchdowns in a game yet, even on that team. Dude holds onto the ball too long.
Watson is more experienced and a better passer than Kizer. I don't see kizer putting up five touchdowns in a game yet, even on that team. Dude holds onto the ball too long.
Maybe or maybe not, but he damn sure isn’t set up for success like Watson is right now. It’s comparing apples to oranges.
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Watson is more experienced and a better passer than Kizer. I don't see kizer putting up five touchdowns in a game yet, even on that team. Dude holds onto the ball too long.
Maybe or maybe not, but he damn sure isn’t set up for success like Watson is right now. It’s comparing apples to oranges.
Maybe or maybe not, but he damn sure isn’t set up for success like Watson is right now. It’s comparing apples to oranges.
and that's on jimmy.
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I'm trying hard NOT to criticize Kizer TOO much. His defense doesn't force FG's, his WRs don't make any plays, and one WR has caused 2 or 3 picks pretty much by himself. He doesn't have weapons, he doesn't get special teams help, and his favorite receiver got hurt almost immediately. That's pretty tough guys.
The truth of the matter is that if he has a good game next week all can be forgiven. He just needs to start progressing a bit more. And maybe he will.
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These kinds of useless posts always spring up after someone has a big game. Then they disappear when said player comes back down to earth.
Give Kizer DeAndre Hopkins, Will Fuller and the Houston defense and let’s see how well he does.
Watson is more experienced and a better passer than Kizer. I don't see kizer putting up five touchdowns in a game yet, even on that team. Dude holds onto the ball too long.
Watson is more experienced and a better passer than Kizer. I don't see kizer putting up five touchdowns in a game yet, even on that team. Dude holds onto the ball too long.
lol... You just lauded the only QB who holds the ball longer than Kizer. Bet you did not know that...
https://nextgenstats.nfl.com/stats/passing#average-time-to-throw
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I'm trying hard NOT to criticize Kizer TOO much. His defense doesn't force FG's, his WRs don't make any plays, and one WR has caused 2 or 3 picks pretty much by himself. He doesn't have weapons, he doesn't get special teams help, and his favorite receiver got hurt almost immediately. That's pretty tough guys.
The truth of the matter is that if he has a good game next week all can be forgiven. He just needs to start progressing a bit more. And maybe he will.
I'm trying hard NOT to criticize Kizer TOO much. His defense doesn't force FG's, his WRs don't make any plays, and one WR has caused 2 or 3 picks pretty much by himself. He doesn't have weapons, he doesn't get special teams help, and his favorite receiver got hurt almost immediately. That's pretty tough guys.
The truth of the matter is that if he has a good game next week all can be forgiven. He just needs to start progressing a bit more. And maybe he will.
Here's news... he is already improving.
No.. it's not translating to wins at the moment, but his sacks are trending down... 7-2-1-1 for Weeks 1 - 4 in order. Anyone bitching today about "throw it away" or "check it down"? Now it's all about "touch" and "accuracy". When one problem ceases, but is replaced by another... that's a form of "progress".
It was no secret that Watson was coming into the league "most NFL ready". The question came in comparing ceilings.
Last point... Watson has to work out for Houston. They are married to him by the price they paid... that they paid us. Whereas we are just engaged to Kizer. Going to give him the time in 2017 to see if we can be happy with him for the rest of his (football) life. If he can, great! If he can't, we'll get engaged to a new one.
I still like our arrangement.
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