Kizer vs. Watson
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Still early to say, but the numbers don't lie
Kizer thru 5 games - 50% completion pct. 851 yards, 3TDs 9INTs
Watson thru 5 games- 62% completion pct. 1,072 yards, 12TDs, 4INTs
Maybe passing on this guy was a bad idea after all..
Factory of Sadness continues..
Still early to say, but the numbers don't lie
Kizer thru 5 games - 50% completion pct. 851 yards, 3TDs 9INTs
Watson thru 5 games- 62% completion pct. 1,072 yards, 12TDs, 4INTs
Maybe passing on this guy was a bad idea after all..
Factory of Sadness continues..
Kizer - Duke, Njoku and Kasen Williams
Watson - Lamar, Hopkins, Miller & Fuller
Deshaun is exceeding what I expected out of him. But let's not ignore the quality of his supporting case relative to our own.
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Still early to say, but the numbers don't lie
Kizer thru 5 games - 50% completion pct. 851 yards, 3TDs 9INTs
Watson thru 5 games- 62% completion pct. 1,072 yards, 12TDs, 4INTs
Maybe passing on this guy was a bad idea after all..
Factory of Sadness continues..
Kizer - Duke, Njoku and Kasen Williams
Watson - Lamar, Hopkins, Miller & Fuller
Deshaun is exceeding what I expected out of him. But let's not ignore the quality of his supporting case relative to our own.
Kizer - Duke, Njoku and Kasen Williams
Watson - Lamar, Hopkins, Miller & Fuller
Deshaun is exceeding what I expected out of him. But let's not ignore the quality of his supporting case relative to our own.
Wait, you mean football is a team sport and that individual performances are almost equally as reliant on the teammates surrounding you?
Get this new age analytic phooey out of here
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Still early to say, but the numbers don't lie
Kizer thru 5 games - 50% completion pct. 851 yards, 3TDs 9INTs
Watson thru 5 games- 62% completion pct. 1,072 yards, 12TDs, 4INTs
Maybe passing on this guy was a bad idea after all..
Factory of Sadness continues..
Still early to say, but the numbers don't lie
Kizer thru 5 games - 50% completion pct. 851 yards, 3TDs 9INTs
Watson thru 5 games- 62% completion pct. 1,072 yards, 12TDs, 4INTs
Interesting comparison but numbers can be deceptive or skewed, what would Watson do in Kizer's starts and vice versa. Some good quarterbacks didn't have exactly eye popping numbers.
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Again Houston and Dallas were good teams with a glaring hole at quarterback so a guy that doesn't suck out loud will make the entire team look better.
WSS
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Camp Watson was about 2 guys deep all offseason and now everyone is his biggest fan. Lol.
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Time to dig up rg3 rookie stats?
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Seriously? How many weeks have we spent throwing shoes at the wall next to the tv over all the drops? Some of these throws are garbage, no doubt....but mist of those drops are finger high. I mean cmon, we really dont know who kizer is because of the incompetence of this receiving corp
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One has been a champion in HS and college. One hasn't.
Also, very interesting that each of their college coaches had polar opposite opinions on their draft status as well.
Kelly "he needed to stay in school at least another year and develop on and off the field"
Sweeney "you pass on Deshaun Watson, you're passing on Michael Jordan"
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Seriously? How many weeks have we spent throwing shoes at the wall next to the tv over all the drops? Some of these throws are garbage, no doubt....but mist of those drops are finger high. I mean cmon, we really dont know who kizer is because of the incompetence of this receiving corp
Seriously? How many weeks have we spent throwing shoes at the wall next to the tv over all the drops? Some of these throws are garbage, no doubt....but mist of those drops are finger high. I mean cmon, we really dont know who kizer is because of the incompetence of this receiving corp
I was on this bandwagon too but they seem to catch Hogans passes just fine.
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Still early to say, but the numbers don't lie
Kizer thru 5 games - 50% completion pct. 851 yards, 3TDs 9INTs
Watson thru 5 games- 62% completion pct. 1,072 yards, 12TDs, 4INTs
Maybe passing on this guy was a bad idea after all..
Factory of Sadness continues..
Kizer - Duke, Njoku and Kasen Williams
Watson - Lamar, Hopkins, Miller & Fuller
Deshaun is exceeding what I expected out of him. But let's not ignore the quality of his supporting case relative to our own.
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Seriously? How many weeks have we spent throwing shoes at the wall next to the tv over all the drops? Some of these throws are garbage, no doubt....but mist of those drops are finger high. I mean cmon, we really dont know who kizer is because of the incompetence of this receiving corp
I was on this bandwagon too but they seem to catch Hogans passes just fine.
I was on this bandwagon too but they seem to catch Hogans passes just fine.
Except for that pick, right?
Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody! -
Except for that pick, right?
No, that pick was caught just fine too.
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Except for that pick, right?
No, that pick was caught just fine too.
No, that pick was caught just fine too.
Hogan was hit as that ball was released. It still got to the receiver- just a bit high, an erratic pass that was 'tough' to catch, tipped to a trailing defender... sounds a bit like Kizer's normal passes. Receivers must anticipate and correct for the passes trajectory, if it's coming in hot and off target, it leads to drops. case and point.
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Go actually 'play catch' with somebody. Out of ten people you 'play catch' with, 10 people will throw the ball differently. Out of those 10 people throwing the ball to you, one of them will throw you the most catchable ball and one will throw passes to you that are hard to catch. Try it sometime. Not all throws are created equal, measured in MPH or velocity of the spin on the ball when it makes contact with your hands. These guys are great pass catchers. They have been catching balls for most of their lives most likely, it's how they make a living... if so many players are having difficulty bringing in Kizer's passes- doesn't that tell you something about the way he throws the ball or maybe the angle of release, something?
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Go actually 'play catch' with somebody. Out of ten people you 'play catch' with, 10 people will throw the ball differently. Out of those 10 people throwing the ball to you, one of them will throw you the most catchable ball and one will throw passes to you that are hard to catch. Try it sometime. Not all throws are created equal, measured in MPH or velocity of the spin on the ball when it makes contact with your hands. These guys are great pass catchers. They have been catching balls for most of their lives most likely, it's how they make a living... if so many players are having difficulty bringing in Kizer's passes- doesn't that tell you something about the way he throws the ball or maybe the angle of release, something?
Go actually 'play catch' with somebody. Out of ten people you 'play catch' with, 10 people will throw the ball differently. Out of those 10 people throwing the ball to you, one of them will throw you the most catchable ball and one will throw passes to you that are hard to catch. Try it sometime. Not all throws are created equal, measured in MPH or velocity of the spin on the ball when it makes contact with your hands. These guys are great pass catchers. They have been catching balls for most of their lives most likely, it's how they make a living... if so many players are having difficulty bringing in Kizer's passes- doesn't that tell you something about the way he throws the ball or maybe the angle of release, something?
Yeah. I do think there’s something to that.
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One has been a champion in HS and college. One hasn't.
Also, very interesting that each of their college coaches had polar opposite opinions on their draft status as well.
Kelly "he needed to stay in school at least another year and develop on and off the field"
Sweeney "you pass on Deshaun Watson, you're passing on Michael Jordan"
One has been a champion in HS and college. One hasn't.
Also, very interesting that each of their college coaches had polar opposite opinions on their draft status as well.
Kelly "he needed to stay in school at least another year and develop on and off the field"
Sweeney "you pass on Deshaun Watson, you're passing on Michael Jordan"
So you think Watson is the second greatest player in history of the game? Please mr. Sweeney...
WSS
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No, that pick was caught just fine too.
Hogan was hit as that ball was released. It still got to the receiver- just a bit high, an erratic pass that was 'tough' to catch, tipped to a trailing defender... sounds a bit like Kizer's normal passes. Receivers must anticipate and correct for the passes trajectory, if it's coming in hot and off target, it leads to drops. case and point.
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Except for that pick, right?
All QB's throw picks. He was hit as he threw as well. Overall you can't argue the catch rate with Hogan in is around 80% and with Kizer a little over half of that. To me that conclusively puts a lot of the drop issue squarely on how and where the QB is placing the ball.
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