Hue most likely gone now....
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Greg Williams is going to be the interim head coach heading into the Lions game
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I can't see us going 4-5 over the next 9, which is the MINIMUM of what Hue probably has to do to keep his job. Even that would place him at 5-27 over his tenure, which blows. And I don't think he even gets to 4 wins this year.
His decision to decline a fifteen yard penalty in the first qtr when the titans had the ball on the 32 and give them a 4th and 1 was absurd....that speaks to his understanding of risk/reward and expected pt totals....just an obscene coaching malpractice decision.
I can't see us going 4-5 over the next 9, which is the MINIMUM of what Hue probably has to do to keep his job. Even that would place him at 5-27 over his tenure, which blows. And I don't think he even gets to 4 wins this year.
His decision to decline a fifteen yard penalty in the first qtr when the titans had the ball on the 32 and give them a 4th and 1 was absurd....that speaks to his understanding of risk/reward and expected pt totals....just an obscene coaching malpractice decision.
I can refer you to some attorneys that specialize in malpractice. In Hue's case, it would be a class action suit with about a couple of million plaintiffs.
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https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/brows-run-reasons-stick-clueless-225437533.html
Browns run out of reasons to stick with clueless Hue Jackson
Sporting News Sporting News22 Oct 2017, 17:49
Browns run out of reasons to stick with clueless Hue Jackson
Hue Jackson can't settle on a quarterback, can't figure out the running game and can't adjust to injuries on offense. He's a major reason Cleveland has just one win in his 23 games as head coach.
The Titans did everything they could to hand host Cleveland its first win of the season Sunday. Browns coach Hue Jackson did everything in his power to flush the opportunity.With Jackson's team now 0-7 after a frustrating 12-9 overtime loss, it's more evident that the coach is a big part of the problem and isn't contributing to the solution. And now that he's 1-22 overall in less than 1 1/2 seasons at the helm, it's also clear the Browns need to make a change before 2018, and maybe sometime soon in 2017.
Jackson came in with a lot of promise last offseason as an accomplished offensive mind and respected motivator, but as the team remains in its massive rebuild, he has mismanaged games and failed to maximize the talent he does have.
Week 7 against Tennessee brought his decision to turn back to rookie DeShone Kizer at starting quarterback over Kevin Hogan. Then, despite Kizer (12-of-20 passing, 114 yards, zero sacks) throwing better downfield (even with two interceptions), Jackson decided to bench him midgame for the second time in three weeks — this time in favor of Cody Kessler instead of Hogan.
Kizer still ended up being more efficient than Kessler (10 for 19, 120 yards, two sacks, INT), and the Browns again couldn't generate enough points to win a game. Deploying three struggling young QBs means there's no chance for any of them to truly develop or find a rhythm, which will further sink an offense severely lacking reliable skill players.
Indeed, the problems go well beyond quarterback. Jackson has been adamant about trying to get slumping power running back Isaiah Crowell on track when receiving back Duke Johnson Jr. has been the Browns' best source of offense. Injuries to the wide receiver corps have kept Cleveland from settling on a go-to guy. You would think that would make Jackson feature his tight ends more in the passing game, but despite their athleticism, David Njoku and Seth DeValve have been treated more like flashes than players with substance.
There's a desperation to get too many players involved, and many players are being overwhelmed as a result. The random rotation of QBs contributes to the lack of chemistry. Even last year's mess of Kessler, Josh McCown and Robert Griffin III looked a lot cleaner because of veteran targets such as Terrelle Pryor and Gary Barnidge.
Sure, it was Browns management that let Pryor walk and Barnidge go, but the brain trust went further away from recycled veterans because it trusted Jackson to lead the youth movement. The only thing he has developed is a disaster, one in which it appears he has no idea what he's doing.
That cluelessness has carried over to decisions not involving the offense. On the game's opening drive, with Tennessee facing a third-and-1 at the Cleveland 32, Titans left tackle Taylor Lewan was flagged for a 15-yard facemask penalty. Instead of accepting the penalty to push the Titans out of field-goal range, Jackson declined it and made the Titans go for it on fourth down, only to have his defense jump offside. Four plays later, the decision had cost Cleveland three points.
Jackson isn't complementing the other side of the ball with his game plans, either. The Browns have fielded a much-improved defense — especially against the run — with young front-seven standouts such as Myles Garrett, Danny Shelton, Christian Kirksey and Jamie Collins. All of those players, along with an overachieving secondary that's missing top cornerback Jason McCourty, made big plays to give Cleveland a chance to steal the game.
Yet, within the game flow, the Browns' staff didn't play to this performance. The coaches again were too aggressive early and too conservative late. Such a volatile mix of bad situational football and a lack of creativity makes Cleveland extremely easy to defend; the box scores and personnel usage look similar every week, down to (insert QB here).
Jackson's desperate attempt to get a second win in as many seasons has, in a way, led to uncertainty about everything. Not having command and confidence is the worst look for an NFL coach. He's overwhelmed in the job to the point he'll probably be better off being relieved of it.
Taking the offensive play-calling away from him and giving it to Al Saunders won't create the necessary spark to win a game. The Browns' brass should be looking at Jackson and deciding it has seen enough — and that it should want to make its latest coaching change.
https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/brows-run-reasons-stick-clueless-225437533.html
Browns run out of reasons to stick with clueless Hue Jackson
Sporting News Sporting News22 Oct 2017, 17:49
Browns run out of reasons to stick with clueless Hue Jackson
Hue Jackson can't settle on a quarterback, can't figure out the running game and can't adjust to injuries on offense. He's a major reason Cleveland has just one win in his 23 games as head coach.
The Titans did everything they could to hand host Cleveland its first win of the season Sunday. Browns coach Hue Jackson did everything in his power to flush the opportunity.With Jackson's team now 0-7 after a frustrating 12-9 overtime loss, it's more evident that the coach is a big part of the problem and isn't contributing to the solution. And now that he's 1-22 overall in less than 1 1/2 seasons at the helm, it's also clear the Browns need to make a change before 2018, and maybe sometime soon in 2017.
Jackson came in with a lot of promise last offseason as an accomplished offensive mind and respected motivator, but as the team remains in its massive rebuild, he has mismanaged games and failed to maximize the talent he does have.
Week 7 against Tennessee brought his decision to turn back to rookie DeShone Kizer at starting quarterback over Kevin Hogan. Then, despite Kizer (12-of-20 passing, 114 yards, zero sacks) throwing better downfield (even with two interceptions), Jackson decided to bench him midgame for the second time in three weeks — this time in favor of Cody Kessler instead of Hogan.
Kizer still ended up being more efficient than Kessler (10 for 19, 120 yards, two sacks, INT), and the Browns again couldn't generate enough points to win a game. Deploying three struggling young QBs means there's no chance for any of them to truly develop or find a rhythm, which will further sink an offense severely lacking reliable skill players.
Indeed, the problems go well beyond quarterback. Jackson has been adamant about trying to get slumping power running back Isaiah Crowell on track when receiving back Duke Johnson Jr. has been the Browns' best source of offense. Injuries to the wide receiver corps have kept Cleveland from settling on a go-to guy. You would think that would make Jackson feature his tight ends more in the passing game, but despite their athleticism, David Njoku and Seth DeValve have been treated more like flashes than players with substance.
There's a desperation to get too many players involved, and many players are being overwhelmed as a result. The random rotation of QBs contributes to the lack of chemistry. Even last year's mess of Kessler, Josh McCown and Robert Griffin III looked a lot cleaner because of veteran targets such as Terrelle Pryor and Gary Barnidge.
Sure, it was Browns management that let Pryor walk and Barnidge go, but the brain trust went further away from recycled veterans because it trusted Jackson to lead the youth movement. The only thing he has developed is a disaster, one in which it appears he has no idea what he's doing.
That cluelessness has carried over to decisions not involving the offense. On the game's opening drive, with Tennessee facing a third-and-1 at the Cleveland 32, Titans left tackle Taylor Lewan was flagged for a 15-yard facemask penalty. Instead of accepting the penalty to push the Titans out of field-goal range, Jackson declined it and made the Titans go for it on fourth down, only to have his defense jump offside. Four plays later, the decision had cost Cleveland three points.
Jackson isn't complementing the other side of the ball with his game plans, either. The Browns have fielded a much-improved defense — especially against the run — with young front-seven standouts such as Myles Garrett, Danny Shelton, Christian Kirksey and Jamie Collins. All of those players, along with an overachieving secondary that's missing top cornerback Jason McCourty, made big plays to give Cleveland a chance to steal the game.
Yet, within the game flow, the Browns' staff didn't play to this performance. The coaches again were too aggressive early and too conservative late. Such a volatile mix of bad situational football and a lack of creativity makes Cleveland extremely easy to defend; the box scores and personnel usage look similar every week, down to (insert QB here).
Jackson's desperate attempt to get a second win in as many seasons has, in a way, led to uncertainty about everything. Not having command and confidence is the worst look for an NFL coach. He's overwhelmed in the job to the point he'll probably be better off being relieved of it.
Taking the offensive play-calling away from him and giving it to Al Saunders won't create the necessary spark to win a game. The Browns' brass should be looking at Jackson and deciding it has seen enough — and that it should want to make its latest coaching change.
This from a neutral source, The Sporting News. It is incredibly right on point.
As far as I am concerned Hue is on a 9 game audition to keep his job for next year. And he needs to listed to this constructive criticism and adapt if he wants to continue.
Does anyone think he will do so?
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What? How many times have you said that you hate him? And his D is a bunch of undisciplined blitzers running around out there?
Aaaanyway. I think Hue is a terrible game managing coach...and have for quite some time...but he IS shackled with poor QB's and WR's in a PASSING league. Even a real good coach would be scratching his head at what he can do to get a win. This stockpile of losses that we've accumed over the last two years is NOT his fault.
Do I think he should be replaced? Yeah. But not because of all of the losses.
Regarding Williams, I was wrong. I like him.
Regarding Hue, as I said in a couple earlier posts, it isn't just the losses, but when you take the entirety of his performance, the loses add to the justification for firing him.
As you start considering the kind of players the FO has given Hue, and other such issues, you create a broad spectrum of culpability for the mess this team is in. That, then leads to one of two points of view, and neither of them is good. a) Everyone has culpability, so lets all work together (and what? Keep screwing up?) or,
Everyone is at fault, so fire everyone.
If we were 3 - 4, Hue is still a bad coach. He just has too many negatives against him. Scapegoat or not, he has to go. On a side noe, he FO has provided some pretty decent players for us. I think the FO is one QB away from being considered a good FO.
Regarding Williams, I was wrong. I like him.
Regarding Hue, as I said in a couple earlier posts, it isn't just the losses, but when you take the entirety of his performance, the loses add to the justification for firing him.
As you start considering the kind of players the FO has given Hue, and other such issues, you create a broad spectrum of culpability for the mess this team is in. That, then leads to one of two points of view, and neither of them is good. a) Everyone has culpability, so lets all work together (and what? Keep screwing up?) or,
Everyone is at fault, so fire everyone.
If we were 3 - 4, Hue is still a bad coach. He just has too many negatives against him. Scapegoat or not, he has to go. On a side noe, he FO has provided some pretty decent players for us. I think the FO is one QB away from being considered a good FO.
I think this...what I bolded above.. may in fact be correct. I have said all along that the Browns talent is no where near as bad as how that talent has played. Yes, there are deficiencies in a few spots....QB, WR, DB....but overall..except for QB, I think the Browns, match up talent wise with the other teams in our division. Nevertheless....we cannot let this FO off the hook. Taking 5 WRs and not one of them seemingly worth a piss......cacking up furballs by passing on apparent top quality QBs all for the sake of acquiring more picks for the future. Well...if they don't get their picks right they may not be here to see that future.
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Bye week, and it's bye-bye Hue. Williams takes over.
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. I want Williams right where he is. He is a proven top DC....and a proven not Top HC. Let him do the job he is best at.
If Hue were fired, as someone said, better to make Al Saunders or someone interim HC.
But I don't think Hue will be fired at all this year...but he is on thin ice for next year.
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I feel like the the only way that Hue could keep his job is if he adds an OC and there is notable improvement right away...
But Honestly - I say he makes it through the year and then is let go within 24 hours of the end of the season... With all these picks in the 2018 draft, they will go on a HC search and the brain trust will allow the new HC to believe that the new QB drafted will be his guy.
Honestly I'm surprised that Hue is still here... All of this losing is just crushing his chances of being hired somewhere else once he is let go.
This feels an awful lot like a slightly different version of the Matt Millen years in Detroit - it was way easier to laugh at when it was someone else's problem
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https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/brows-run-reasons-stick-clueless-225437533.html
Browns run out of reasons to stick with clueless Hue Jackson
Sporting News Sporting News22 Oct 2017, 17:49
Browns run out of reasons to stick with clueless Hue Jackson
Hue Jackson can't settle on a quarterback, can't figure out the running game and can't adjust to injuries on offense. He's a major reason Cleveland has just one win in his 23 games as head coach.
The Titans did everything they could to hand host Cleveland its first win of the season Sunday. Browns coach Hue Jackson did everything in his power to flush the opportunity.With Jackson's team now 0-7 after a frustrating 12-9 overtime loss, it's more evident that the coach is a big part of the problem and isn't contributing to the solution. And now that he's 1-22 overall in less than 1 1/2 seasons at the helm, it's also clear the Browns need to make a change before 2018, and maybe sometime soon in 2017.
Jackson came in with a lot of promise last offseason as an accomplished offensive mind and respected motivator, but as the team remains in its massive rebuild, he has mismanaged games and failed to maximize the talent he does have.
Week 7 against Tennessee brought his decision to turn back to rookie DeShone Kizer at starting quarterback over Kevin Hogan. Then, despite Kizer (12-of-20 passing, 114 yards, zero sacks) throwing better downfield (even with two interceptions), Jackson decided to bench him midgame for the second time in three weeks — this time in favor of Cody Kessler instead of Hogan.
Kizer still ended up being more efficient than Kessler (10 for 19, 120 yards, two sacks, INT), and the Browns again couldn't generate enough points to win a game. Deploying three struggling young QBs means there's no chance for any of them to truly develop or find a rhythm, which will further sink an offense severely lacking reliable skill players.
Indeed, the problems go well beyond quarterback. Jackson has been adamant about trying to get slumping power running back Isaiah Crowell on track when receiving back Duke Johnson Jr. has been the Browns' best source of offense. Injuries to the wide receiver corps have kept Cleveland from settling on a go-to guy. You would think that would make Jackson feature his tight ends more in the passing game, but despite their athleticism, David Njoku and Seth DeValve have been treated more like flashes than players with substance.
There's a desperation to get too many players involved, and many players are being overwhelmed as a result. The random rotation of QBs contributes to the lack of chemistry. Even last year's mess of Kessler, Josh McCown and Robert Griffin III looked a lot cleaner because of veteran targets such as Terrelle Pryor and Gary Barnidge.
Sure, it was Browns management that let Pryor walk and Barnidge go, but the brain trust went further away from recycled veterans because it trusted Jackson to lead the youth movement. The only thing he has developed is a disaster, one in which it appears he has no idea what he's doing.
That cluelessness has carried over to decisions not involving the offense. On the game's opening drive, with Tennessee facing a third-and-1 at the Cleveland 32, Titans left tackle Taylor Lewan was flagged for a 15-yard facemask penalty. Instead of accepting the penalty to push the Titans out of field-goal range, Jackson declined it and made the Titans go for it on fourth down, only to have his defense jump offside. Four plays later, the decision had cost Cleveland three points.
Jackson isn't complementing the other side of the ball with his game plans, either. The Browns have fielded a much-improved defense — especially against the run — with young front-seven standouts such as Myles Garrett, Danny Shelton, Christian Kirksey and Jamie Collins. All of those players, along with an overachieving secondary that's missing top cornerback Jason McCourty, made big plays to give Cleveland a chance to steal the game.
Yet, within the game flow, the Browns' staff didn't play to this performance. The coaches again were too aggressive early and too conservative late. Such a volatile mix of bad situational football and a lack of creativity makes Cleveland extremely easy to defend; the box scores and personnel usage look similar every week, down to (insert QB here).
Jackson's desperate attempt to get a second win in as many seasons has, in a way, led to uncertainty about everything. Not having command and confidence is the worst look for an NFL coach. He's overwhelmed in the job to the point he'll probably be better off being relieved of it.
Taking the offensive play-calling away from him and giving it to Al Saunders won't create the necessary spark to win a game. The Browns' brass should be looking at Jackson and deciding it has seen enough — and that it should want to make its latest coaching change.
This from a neutral source, The Sporting News. It is incredibly right on point.
As far as I am concerned Hue is on a 9 game audition to keep his job for next year. And he needs to listed to this constructive criticism and adapt if he wants to continue.
Does anyone think he will do so?
This from a neutral source, The Sporting News. It is incredibly right on point.
As far as I am concerned Hue is on a 9 game audition to keep his job for next year. And he needs to listed to this constructive criticism and adapt if he wants to continue.
Does anyone think he will do so?
NOPE!
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Greg Williams is going to be the interim head coach heading into the Lions game
Hate to bust your bubble, but Hue isn't going anywhere this season.
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I have no issue with Williams.
What? How many times have you said that you hate him? And his D is a bunch of undisciplined blitzers running around out there?
Aaaanyway. I think Hue is a terrible game managing coach...and have for quite some time...but he IS shackled with poor QB's and WR's in a PASSING league. Even a real good coach would be scratching his head at what he can do to get a win. This stockpile of losses that we've accumed over the last two years is NOT his fault.
Do I think he should be replaced? Yeah. But not because of all of the losses.
What? How many times have you said that you hate him? And his D is a bunch of undisciplined blitzers running around out there?
Aaaanyway. I think Hue is a terrible game managing coach...and have for quite some time...but he IS shackled with poor QB's and WR's in a PASSING league. Even a real good coach would be scratching his head at what he can do to get a win. This stockpile of losses that we've accumed over the last two years is NOT his fault.
Do I think he should be replaced? Yeah. But not because of all of the losses.
Pass attempts: 3rd most in the NFL, 30TH IN YPA (plus 14 INTs, 6 more than the next worst). Rush attempts: 20th in NFL, 15th in YPC
Other division leaders:
- Rams: 18th in pass atps, 7th in rushes, despite ranked 19th in ypc
- Eagles: 12th in pass atps, 4th in rushes
- Jags: 27th in pass atps, 1st in rushes
This speaks to playcalling. These teams with young QBs STRONGLY emphasize the run game, and throw the ball far less than we do with developing QBs. We should be closer to what the Jags do, but were calling plays like we have Aaron Rodgers. Its very frustrating.
You forgot the ultimate rookie, care-taking stat line...
Passing Rushing Scoring Date Week Tm Opp Result GS Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD Int Rate Sk Yds Y/A AY/A Rush Yds Y/A TD 2PM TD 2017-10-15 6 CHI @ BAL W 27-24 * 8 16 50.00 113 1 0 94.0 4 23 7.06 8.31 4 32 8.00 0 0 2017-10-22 7 CHI CAR W 17-3 * 4 7 57.14 107 0 0 101.8 4 22 15.29 15.29 5 3 0.60 0 0 Two week total... 12/23 220-yd and 2 wins...
Total attempts and yards in those two games?
- Passing: 241 on 13/24 (including 1/1 by Cohen for 21 yd)
- Rushing: 299 on 80 rushes
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I can't see us going 4-5 over the next 9, which is the MINIMUM of what Hue probably has to do to keep his job. Even that would place him at 5-27 over his tenure, which blows. And I don't think he even gets to 4 wins this year.
His decision to decline a fifteen yard penalty in the first qtr when the titans had the ball on the 32 and give them a 4th and 1 was absurd....that speaks to his understanding of risk/reward and expected pt totals....just an obscene coaching malpractice decision.
I can't see us going 4-5 over the next 9, which is the MINIMUM of what Hue probably has to do to keep his job. Even that would place him at 5-27 over his tenure, which blows. And I don't think he even gets to 4 wins this year.
His decision to decline a fifteen yard penalty in the first qtr when the titans had the ball on the 32 and give them a 4th and 1 was absurd....that speaks to his understanding of risk/reward and expected pt totals....just an obscene coaching malpractice decision.
he pretty much sucks at coaching....don't see him ever getting the clowns to the sb or even the playoffs. however, it is not all his fault...You can put alot of blame on the dumbass analytic morons, chachi and lamebrane for the shitty butt players they have drafted., and of course the biggest pooper of all...the faaaaacking owner..
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If williams takes over as hc the defense likely suffers and we have to bring an oc in midseason. Do any of u think before u put ur thoughts and feelings down in this digital utopia? The problems we're already having with our qb's and wr's and u wanna bring in a new scheme?
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I can't see us going 4-5 over the next 9, which is the MINIMUM of what Hue probably has to do to keep his job. Even that would place him at 5-27 over his tenure, which blows. And I don't think he even gets to 4 wins this year.
His decision to decline a fifteen yard penalty in the first qtr when the titans had the ball on the 32 and give them a 4th and 1 was absurd....that speaks to his understanding of risk/reward and expected pt totals....just an obscene coaching malpractice decision.
he pretty much sucks at coaching....don't see him ever getting the clowns to the sb or even the playoffs. however, it is not all his fault...You can put alot of blame on the dumbass analytic morons, chachi and lamebrane for the shitty butt players they have drafted., and of course the biggest pooper of all...the faaaaacking owner..
he pretty much sucks at coaching....don't see him ever getting the clowns to the sb or even the playoffs. however, it is not all his fault...You can put alot of blame on the dumbass analytic morons, chachi and lamebrane for the shitty butt players they have drafted., and of course the biggest pooper of all...the faaaaacking owner..
I somewhat....but not completely disagree. I think there IS talent on this team. Enough talent that, imo, this team could be like .500 or close with proper instruction and coaching and decision making. That said, yes, there are some deficiencies....glaring ones....and those ARE the responsibility of the FO. Clearly QB is #1. They don't have a good one and got rid of guys who would at least potentially be capable steady veteran presences on this team: McCown and B.O. They have cacked up furballs at the WR position.....and have deficiencies in the defensive backfield.....though I will say that they played OK yesterday.
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Hue gets at least another season to show improvement IF he can squeak out 2-3 wins this season..
Anything less and we will have yet another mediocre HC with no coaching experience...
Is Rob Chudzinski looking for another shot at being a head coach again?
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If williams takes over as hc the defense likely suffers and we have to bring an oc in midseason. Do any of u think before u put ur thoughts and feelings down in this digital utopia? The problems we're already having with our qb's and wr's and u wanna bring in a new scheme?
If williams takes over as hc the defense likely suffers and we have to bring an oc in midseason. Do any of u think before u put ur thoughts and feelings down in this digital utopia? The problems we're already having with our qb's and wr's and u wanna bring in a new scheme?
The problem to a great extent, to me IS the scheme. It is NOT working. So, yes, either bring in a new scheme.....or make adjustments to this one to where it will work. That is a major deficiency that Hue has going for him......failure to adjust when he sees something is not working. Calling plays that seem to have no chance of success.
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Hue gets at least another season to show improvement IF he can squeak out 2-3 wins this season..
Anything less and we will have yet another mediocre HC with no coaching experience...
Is Rob Chudzinski looking for another shot at being a head coach again?
Hue gets at least another season to show improvement IF he can squeak out 2-3 wins this season..
Anything less and we will have yet another mediocre HC with no coaching experience...
Is Rob Chudzinski looking for another shot at being a head coach again?
More than one of us here thought Haslam canned Chud too soon, the guy bled brown & orange. Fit Ghooile's profile of an up and comer. Now Jimmy is between a rock and a hard place, stick with the plan, (because of past hair trigger reactions) or keep a coach that is showing signs of being the worst HC in Browns history.
This is getting so bad, it's starting to make me look with fondness on the days of old Pat Shure-loss.
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Hue gets at least another season to show improvement IF he can squeak out 2-3 wins this season..
Anything less and we will have yet another mediocre HC with no coaching experience...
Is Rob Chudzinski looking for another shot at being a head coach again?
More than one of us here thought Haslam canned Chud too soon, the guy bled brown & orange. Fit Ghooile's profile of an up and comer. Now Jimmy is between a rock and a hard place, stick with the plan, (because of past hair trigger reactions) or keep a coach that is showing signs of being the worst HC in Browns history.
This is getting so bad, it's starting to make me look with fondness on the days of old Pat Shure-loss.
More than one of us here thought Haslam canned Chud too soon, the guy bled brown & orange. Fit Ghooile's profile of an up and comer. Now Jimmy is between a rock and a hard place, stick with the plan, (because of past hair trigger reactions) or keep a coach that is showing signs of being the worst HC in Browns history.
This is getting so bad, it's starting to make me look with fondness on the days of old Pat Shure-loss.
They canned him after a season..
They should have never canned Mangini at least our players were disciplined and didn't commit penalties every Shmuckin play.. -
More than one of us here thought Haslam canned Chud too soon, the guy bled brown & orange. Fit Ghooile's profile of an up and comer. Now Jimmy is between a rock and a hard place, stick with the plan, (because of past hair trigger reactions) or keep a coach that is showing signs of being the worst HC in Browns history.
This is getting so bad, it's starting to make me look with fondness on the days of old Pat Shure-loss.
They canned him after a season..
They should have never canned Mangini at least our players were disciplined and didn't commit penalties every Shmuckin play..They canned him after a season..
They should have never canned Mangini at least our players were disciplined and didn't commit penalties every Shmuckin play..^^^^ Yeah, that too..... Going from a first down to second and thirty...
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Hate to bust your bubble, but Hue isn't going anywhere this season.
Not saying it's what I want or think should happen, but I think at this point the writing is on the wall for Hue. Once they get blown out in london I wouldn't be surprised to see a change.
Though I believe he may be one of the two worst coaches we've had since 99' (other being Pat Shurmur). He hasn't really helped himself by taking on OC and HC duties, though.
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I was the only 1 in the room when Jack butt declined a 15 yard penalty and let them have it 4th and 1. I don't think to many pro teams would ever not go for it on 4th and 1 where they had the ball. Yes we did only hold them to 3 and we did keep them out of the end zone all game but still a dumb move. I really think Hue has no clue what he is doing, IDK if he has somebody telling him what to do with the 2 way radio he has, (I don't think I ever seen a coach have a head set and a 2 way radio at the same time) But Hue seems lost, like he is going to catch Sheet no matter what he does.
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