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  • Pro Bowls. WOW.............. Do those appearances relate to winning by any chance?

    The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL
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    @ghoolie said:

    Those teams had playmakers, They didn't have the total vacuum of playmakers the Browns did. TOTALLY different issue.

    Ur right ghoolie but the feeling in the nfl usually is that everything stsrts with the qb. Sonu can have calvin johnson on the team and it doesnt mean Sheet if the qb is on his butt 2 sec after the snap. 

    Joe didnt have much of  an impact because the rest of the line was habitual garbage. Teams just moved their primary edge rushers to the right side. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    Ur right ghoolie but the feeling in the nfl usually is that everything stsrts with the qb. Sonu can have calvin johnson on the team and it doesnt mean Sheet if the qb is on his butt 2 sec after the snap. 

    Joe didnt have much of  an impact because the rest of the line was habitual garbage. Teams just moved their primary edge rushers to the right side. 

    I really don't want to beat this dead horse. They guy gave his best, and he is injured, so I hope he recovers 100%. I am just not all gooey over this guy. I really think he was one dimensional and actually hurt the running game by not being a powerful run blocker. So, am I to believe that no other NFL team has a great LT or that this position takes a lifetime to fill? I just don't buy it. Joe was an average athlete who had lucky breaks with longevity.

    Let's get back to players who actually can make a difference.

    The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL
  • GhoolieG Ghoolie

    Pro Bowls. WOW.............. Do those appearances relate to winning by any chance?

    @ghoolie said:

    Pro Bowls. WOW.............. Do those appearances relate to winning by any chance?

    Yes, they often do.   But obviously there are some exceptions when you have a great player but the rest of the team sucks.  And, of course, you knew that.  You were just being disingenuous with your comment. 

  • GhoolieG Ghoolie

    @gunz41 said:

    Ghoolie you are wrong on this subject. You said the top teams in NFL dont waste top picks on OL.

    Well, here is the list of just 1st round OL with good teams recently. There will be a few that were 1st round picks and switched teams, but they still were 1sr rounders that helped their team succeed.

    Atlanta: Jake Matthews, Alex Mack

    Carolina Panthers: Matt Kalil

    Dallas Cowboys: Zach Martin, Travis Frederick, Tyron Smith

    Green Bay Packers: Bryan Bulaga

    New England Patriots: Nate Solder

    Philadelphia Eagles: Lane Johnson (just look at Wentz W-L record with and without him),

    Pittsburgh Steelers: David Decastro, Maurkice Pouncey

    Seattle Seahawks: Russell Okung

    That is just since Joe Thomas was drafted. There has been a few 2nd rounders as well who turned into Pro Bowlers for competing teams.

    I could have missed someone as I dont know every teams lineman

    Those teams had playmakers, They didn't have the total vacuum of playmakers the Browns did. TOTALLY different issue.

    @ghoolie said:

    Those teams had playmakers, They didn't have the total vacuum of playmakers the Browns did. TOTALLY different issue.

    No sir. Browns dont have playmakers that part is true. But what YOU said is teams can and do win with low round linemen. You even said some one without any high round linemen.

    Just admit it, you were caught saying something wrong

  • GhoolieG Ghoolie

    @wargograw said:

    Yeah, you’re trying to walk it back now that I’ve called you out. But you’re degenerating into same ole worthless Ghoolie. 

    Dude, I am not walking anything back. Joe Thomas has been an ineffective piece of baloney. He was a waste of a high pick, he has not favorably impacted the Browns in any measurable capacity.Give the attacks on me a rest. I don't like Joe Thomas, there is nothing irritating about my saying that.....only to people like you who idolize this guy.

    @ghoolie said:

    Dude, I am not walking anything back. Joe Thomas has been an ineffective piece of baloney. He was a waste of a high pick, he has not favorably impacted the Browns in any measurable capacity.Give the attacks on me a rest. I don't like Joe Thomas, there is nothing irritating about my saying that.....only to people like you who idolize this guy.

    Lol. You know nothing. I have been at the forefront of the trade him train for several years now. I just don't have to go out of my way to be a complete jerk about it. 

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