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***Official Browns Vs. Vikings In London, England, UK, Game Night Thread***

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  • B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
    #89

    Njoku stinks, thank god he has good measureables

  • tinythinkerT tinythinker wrote on last edited by
    #90

    23-16, Browns trail heading into the fourth.

    Will they pull it out?

  • An uncatchable ball and minimal contact is pass  interference, but a guy literally blocking a man and stopping his route isn't. Cool.

    Bob806B Bob806 wrote on last edited by
    #91

    @jrb12711 said:

    An uncatchable ball and minimal contact is pass  interference, but a guy literally blocking a man and stopping his route isn't. Cool.

    Every freaking week. Browns got hosed again.

  • @kybrowns said:

    Terrible PI call.  Ball wasn't catchable

    I think they were calling it before the ball was even thrown.  

    medicinemanM medicineman wrote on last edited by
    #92

    @tiamat63 said:

    I think they were calling it before the ball was even thrown.  

    I thought the same thing

  • 23-16, Browns trail heading into the fourth.

    Will they pull it out?

    B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
    #93

    @tinythinker said:

    23-16, Browns trail heading into the fourth.

    Will they pull it out?

    Sadly, no

  • @kybrowns said:

    Terrible PI call.  Ball wasn't catchable

    I think they were calling it before the ball was even thrown.  

    jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
    #94

    @tiamat63 said:

    I think they were calling it before the ball was even thrown.  

    If it's before the throw that's one thing. But to call PI they have to consider if the pass was uncatchable, that's their job. I know you're probably not disagreeing but the inconsistentcy has been awful.

    @tacosman said:

    bad PI call, but good no call on ours.  The ball wasnt quite in the air yet and was within 5 yards from LOS and there was no holding/grabbing

    So impeding a guys route by literally running into him with arms extended isn't a penalty? Guess I've been learning football different than you.

  • medicinemanM medicineman wrote on last edited by
    #95

    Now we have David N dropping a pass that was in his damn hands, WTF, we are shooting ourselves, We had a decent first half and now we are falling apart

  • 31 white guys, most all sitting at home now playing play station who would be willing to work for nfl min and are certainly better than zane, and wtf is our front office doing??

    mjp28M mjp28 wrote on last edited by
    #96

    @tacosman said:

    31 white guys, most all sitting at home now playing play station who would be willing to work for nfl min and are certainly better than zane, and wtf is our front office doing??

    I'm sure that the BROWNS are thinking about getting a kicker.....I hope. (the nfl minimum wage)

    Yrs. 2017 2018 2019
    0 $465,000 $480,000 $495,000
    1 $540,000 $555,000 $570,000
    2 $615,000 $630,000 $645,000
    3 $690,000 $705,000 $720,000
    4-6 $775,000 $790,000 $805,000
    7-9 $900,000 $915,000 $930,000
    10+ $1,000,000 $1,015,000 $1,030,000

    VETERAN MINIMUM BENEFITS

    When qualified, a player with four (4) or more years of NFL experience can earn his total minimum salary, but have a cap figure that reflects two years of experience – or in 2017, $615,000. The contract must be for only one year, and must not contain combined bonus money (signing, roster, workout) that exceeds $80,000.

    For instance, let’s pretend Ryan Fitzpatrick re-signs with the Buffalo Bills in 2017 on a 1 year, minimum salary contract. With 10+ years of experience, he’ll be slotted for a $1,000,000 base salary. With four or more years of experience (11), and a 1 year contract, Fitzpatrick qualifies for the cap hit benefit. His 2017 cap figure with the Bills would be $615,000

    Had he received a bonus (signing, roster, workout) up to the maximum $80,000, he would have received a total $1.08M contract, with a $1M base salary, an $80,000 signing bonus, and a cap figure of $695,0000 (615+80).

    With plenty of veterans being released, or not signed back thus far in 2017, the use of the Minimum Salary Benefit Rule becomes useful both for older players looking for jobs, and teams looking to minimize their cap dollars.

  • @tiamat63 said:

    I think they were calling it before the ball was even thrown.  

    If it's before the throw that's one thing. But to call PI they have to consider if the pass was uncatchable, that's their job. I know you're probably not disagreeing but the inconsistentcy has been awful.

    @tacosman said:

    bad PI call, but good no call on ours.  The ball wasnt quite in the air yet and was within 5 yards from LOS and there was no holding/grabbing

    So impeding a guys route by literally running into him with arms extended isn't a penalty? Guess I've been learning football different than you.

    T Tacosman wrote on last edited by
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    @jrb12711 said:

    So impeding a guys route by literally running into him with arms extended isn't a penalty? Guess I've been learning football different than you.

    if it's short of 5 yards from the LOS and it's not a hold/grab/tug whatever and the ball isn't in the air, no it's not a penalty.  You can make a contact with a reciever like that.  The rules are very clear on that.  

  • tinythinkerT tinythinker wrote on last edited by tinythinker
    #98

    Oh no, Browns D trying to deal with a 3rd and long...

    Big catch for Vikings...

    Personal foul, roughing the passer.

  • @jrb12711 said:

    So impeding a guys route by literally running into him with arms extended isn't a penalty? Guess I've been learning football different than you.

    if it's short of 5 yards from the LOS and it's not a hold/grab/tug whatever and the ball isn't in the air, no it's not a penalty.  You can make a contact with a reciever like that.  The rules are very clear on that.  

    jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
    #99

    @tacosman said:

    if it's short of 5 yards from the LOS and it's not a hold/grab/tug whatever and the ball isn't in the air, no it's not a penalty.  You can make a contact with a reciever like that.  The rules are very clear on that.  

    Unless the ball is thrown to said receiver and the contact impedes his ability to catch the ball. The rules are even more clear on that.

  • 31 white guys, most all sitting at home now playing play station who would be willing to work for nfl min and are certainly better than zane, and wtf is our front office doing??

    miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by

    @tacosman said:

    31 white guys, most all sitting at home now playing play station who would be willing to work for nfl min and are certainly better than zane, and wtf is our front office doing??

    What's white got to do with it? You must be a minority cuz me saying something like that I'd get labeled racist.

  • T Tacosman wrote on last edited by

    god thats an awful play by taylor.....no need at all.  45 or whatever yard penalty

  • tinythinkerT tinythinker wrote on last edited by

    Next throw, Browns' Taylor called for pass interference.

    Yeah, Vikes are gonna score again real fast.

  • tinythinkerT tinythinker wrote on last edited by

    Two flags on the red zone pass by the Vikings...

    Holding, automatic first down.

  • medicinemanM medicineman wrote on last edited by

    Refs are taking over

  • tinythinkerT tinythinker wrote on last edited by

    Vikings TD.

  • B BaconHound wrote on last edited by

    Shmuck the Browns 0-8, 1-23

  • @tacosman said:

    if it's short of 5 yards from the LOS and it's not a hold/grab/tug whatever and the ball isn't in the air, no it's not a penalty.  You can make a contact with a reciever like that.  The rules are very clear on that.  

    Unless the ball is thrown to said receiver and the contact impedes his ability to catch the ball. The rules are even more clear on that.

    T Tacosman wrote on last edited by

    @jrb12711 said:

    Unless the ball is thrown to said receiver and the contact impedes his ability to catch the ball. The rules are even more clear on that.

    *if* the ball is in the air. It wasn't.  you are making rules up.  It cant be pass interference because the ball wasnt thrown yet.  Thats where you 'impedes' argument comes in.  You can't call PI on a ball that hasnt been thrown.  And it cant be illegal contact(what I guess you are arguing for) because the contact was within 5 yards.   And it can't be defensive holding because there was no hold.  Please show me this rule about 'impedes ability to catch the ball' before the ball is thrown because it doesnt exist and thats why you can't cite it.

  • medicinemanM medicineman wrote on last edited by

    This is far from over, The Viks are going to get 2 more touchdowns, The refs will be sure of it