There is no 'the process' with this team....
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cool story bro
Awesome OP... so much effort, analysis and support.
Awesome OP... so much effort, analysis and support.
every post isn't going to be a peer-reviewed paper.....it's time that this organization started to make sweeping changes and takes a different approach. The sashi/hue combo is really just more of the same aimless floudering we've seen for the last 15 years with a little bit of makeup on. We need a front office that is going to have an agenda that is consistent with team building in the nfl in 2017 founded on data driven policies and analysis. Not the contradictory bull**** hue and this FO have given us.
we need to find the nfl's version of sam hinkie. These clowns arent it.
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What data is that?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
What data is that?
All the data of course. defensive and offensive efficiency ratings this year. then those compared to last year. pythags this year compared to last year. We'll see what the next several games bring.
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All the data of course. defensive and offensive efficiency ratings this year. then those compared to last year. pythags this year compared to last year. We'll see what the next several games bring.
Had to Google pythags.........
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Awesome OP... so much effort, analysis and support.
every post isn't going to be a peer-reviewed paper.....it's time that this organization started to make sweeping changes and takes a different approach. The sashi/hue combo is really just more of the same aimless floudering we've seen for the last 15 years with a little bit of makeup on. We need a front office that is going to have an agenda that is consistent with team building in the nfl in 2017 founded on data driven policies and analysis. Not the contradictory bull**** hue and this FO have given us.
we need to find the nfl's version of sam hinkie. These clowns arent it.
every post isn't going to be a peer-reviewed paper.....it's time that this organization started to make sweeping changes and takes a different approach. The sashi/hue combo is really just more of the same aimless floudering we've seen for the last 15 years with a little bit of makeup on. We need a front office that is going to have an agenda that is consistent with team building in the nfl in 2017 founded on data driven policies and analysis. Not the contradictory bull**** hue and this FO have given us.
we need to find the nfl's version of sam hinkie. These clowns arent it.
Oh you mean change like what they have been doing almost every year. Shmuck outta here.
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Pretty sure our scores have had a few bumps... enough for life support...
Had to Google pythags.........
Me, too...
Did it do you any more good than it did me?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
every post isn't going to be a peer-reviewed paper.....it's time that this organization started to make sweeping changes and takes a different approach. The sashi/hue combo is really just more of the same aimless floudering we've seen for the last 15 years with a little bit of makeup on. We need a front office that is going to have an agenda that is consistent with team building in the nfl in 2017 founded on data driven policies and analysis. Not the contradictory bull**** hue and this FO have given us.
we need to find the nfl's version of sam hinkie. These clowns arent it.
Oh you mean change like what they have been doing almost every year. Shmuck outta here.
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Well, I had to Google some of the results I got Googling pythags.... so no, not really.
Only stats needed. The wins, losses, months trying. Flat line means plug pulling time
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All the data of course. defensive and offensive efficiency ratings this year. then those compared to last year. pythags this year compared to last year. We'll see what the next several games bring.
Pythags this..In 2016 we clearly missed on getting WR Rishard Matthews from Miami now a Titian for 3 years at 15M..In 2017 LB AJ Klein goes from Panthers to Saints for 4 years 24M..Analytic Data is garbage when Berry & Grigson can't see pure on the field talent evaluations right in front of them.. at a steal for the $$ on a contract..The complete whiffs on field talent over numbers are killers
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Only stats needed. The wins, losses, months trying. Flat line means plug pulling time
So let me try.....
Wins / Losses x Time = X
Got it!!
X = The Process
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I haven't been thrilled with Hue Jackson, but I'm way more aggrevated by our front office. Everyone wants to point to Sashi missing on Wentz and Watson, and those are egregious mistakes, but let's look at another, smaller mistake that displays his incompetence. Sashi cut Taylor Gabriel to make room for HIS drafted WRs like Rashard Higgins, Jordan Payton, and Ricardo Louis. I don't believe any of those 3 guys make it on an active NFL roster. The one exception COULD be Higgins, as Kizer has missed him for at least three touchdowns this year, and Higgins has been open multiple other times for big gains. His hands have proven to be mostly reliable, and he MIGHT help someone. But Taylor Gabriel is making plays. Some of them big. That's an inexcusable miss and it really shows just how out of his depth Sashi is at his job.
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I wanted to keep Gabe as well, but c'mon... let's not over-romanticize him. He's a solid #3... no more... no less. He's not a building block in his mid-20's.
Is he better than our kids (I can hear you ask)? Yes... but we had to learn that and now that we have... easy fix.
Part of the philosophy of this FO... this organization... is to invest in and develop young players. No better examples than Kizer and Njoku and Garrett... players we can have for a decade, if they develop.
As for egregious? ummmm.... no...
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I'm not saying Taylor Gabriel cures our ills, I'm merely using his departure as just one shining example of Sashi's futility. And your point that we want to invest in young players doesn't make sense. How old was Gabriel when he left? 24? Are you saying we should only develop young players WE draft our sign? Sashi didn't sign him originally, but the Browns basically gave him his start. It's one example of how poorly Sashi evaluates talent. And if you look at our worst position groupings, where do we lack the most talent? WR and QB on offense. So what's the excuse about screwing it up? Nobody else on this board thought Gabriel was worse than the idiots we kept, so how does Sashi get it wrong? Our radio guys thought it was terrible, our fans (ones I know) were ticked, and people in the media weren't happy, yet Sashi messes it up. Why cut Joe Haden? Did he dominate in Pittsburgh? No, but he didn't embarrass himself either. We needed some veteran leadership on this team, and that's another mistake made by him. And don't get me started on Wentz and Watson. Sashi single-handedly kept us in the dark ages by messing up our roster. He has the final say. His shoulders bare the weight of this talent-starved debacle called the Browns.
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I'm saying he was not worth (to us) what the Falc's paid him... which is $2.75mm this season.
And Sashi does not "evaluate talent"... so there's that.
That ought to get you started...
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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